I feel oddly guilty about liking this stuff

I used to have this feeling of shame as well but I've accepted it. Back when I was younger it didn't help that people around me would comment that that's disgusting. So I always kept quiet and felt embarrassed. But as I've gotten older I actually love it now. I just need to grow a pair to chat them up when I see them, and fight against my self-sabotaging negative thoughts.

Great comments though. I feel like having this discussion, reading about other's experiences and airing out one's thoughts in here is therapeutic in a way.

Most of us probably hid our desires for muscular women because just as you stated, we would have been ridiculed. My own mother repeatedly told me how ugly the circus trapeze ladies were. I'd sit there, hugging the TV, memorized by their muscles and their strength! Discovering WASP...later evolving into Women's Physique World, let me know there were others like me. And then the internet and Diana the Valkyrie came along.... And I never felt alone again in my love for these beautiful women. 😁🥰

The motivation in a fetish like this is probably... [Elaborate hypothesis without empirical support]

What evidence could one generate to prove this wrong?

What evidence could one generate to prove this wrong?

The burden of proof always lies with the person making the claim. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed the same way.

@Eatskeetdelete and anyone in this thread that is interested. My 2 cents: Let me first say, I accept the Bible as truth and I love God. So know that first, you might want to stop reading (don't judge me LOL) As a Christian, I HAVE struggled with my love for Women with Muscle. Not because I'm insecure...I sure as hell aren't gay (that offends me the most). It is not evolution or the survival of the fitest...nor is it a bad childhood or something that happend in my childhood... I just beleive and feel that female muscle is the most beautiful and sexiest thing on the planet, and I too am VERY thankful these women work so hard to bring female beauty, in my opinion, to the next level. Muscle on women looks totally different to anyone who looks past their sterio-types. They are gorgious! Every striation, vein, fiber, dent, flex...back, legs, abs, shoulders, ribs, and especially ARMS (for me) wink I'm like luvembuff in this way: I started young and I can't remember when i did'nt like female muscle from WPW to Diana the Valkyrie and Women's Muscle and Fitness mag etc... I went to the book store to find sports books that pictured Musclular women! Feeling alone is not my problem either. I digress to the point. I have battled depression over the pure guilt of looking up female bodybuilders and female physique trainers etc.. herbiceps is my favorite site! LOL But my problem is, (and I share this only because there may be others out there or on here who battles the same feelings) God's word says in Matthew 5:28 "that anyone who looks at a woman with lust for her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Now, let me say first, that most normal men are in trouble here...we have all failed. That is why I am thankful for Jesus, who died for my sins. i believe His Blood covers my failure to keep the law of God, He did the work and paid the price so I could be acquitted of my guilt and sin. Jesus took the judgment for me. I put my trust in His righteousness, not my own! He died and rose again so I could have a new birth and be considered guiltless! He does not want me to be in "bondage" again. OKAY, here is my problem. Repentance is not just asking Jesus to forgive you, it is loving Him enough and appreciating Him enough to turn away from those sins. So for me to continue to lust, is my problem! If you have read this far, hold on, bc this is where it gets interesting: I am married to a very sexy wife who does not have muscle. I am very attracted to her (thank God). I love her and she knows about my love for female muscle. She thinks it is cool. (we do have sex and I enjoy it!) I have also shared with her my feelings of guilt because of the topic of lust. I do not look at "traditional porn" or (nude pics). But I do look up and fantasize about women with muscle, mostly clothed, workout clothes, bikinis etc... I especailly love casual wear muscle videos, like those interviews where they are just talking and moving normally...love those too! Those arm veins and that vein that runs over the top of her bicep! WOW, drool...Oh sorry! I too feel as others have stated, that I can't change this. I have prayed for God to remove this desire or attraction from me, because I don't want to lust or "committ adultery in my heart". I don't want to go to hell because of a fantacy or "fetish"(again my belief system, you don't have to share mine for us to talk). I don't consider myself a schmoe at all! I have social skills and social sensitivity...I am also not trying to just make these women sex objects! I just find them extremely BEAUTIFUL! So my depression sneaks in over time when i try hard to avoid this, then fail or return to the videos (Jenn Cowan is one of my favorites, her rear bicep pose close to her lips, in that blue workout outfit! Oh my!). I have, like Richard Greye talks about in his book, a Fe-Muscle Radar! If there is a muscular woman anywhere in my vicinity, my radar finds her... her viens, her legs, her arms, her shoulders, even her face can give it away for me. My depression sneaks in because I do find my release in getting off to female muscle women videos, mostly just flexing their bieceps (my personal favorite) ALL SIZES! from the smallest to the extremeist! I love them all! I mean, that pic of Ashton Penney in this thread, that is perfection RIGHT? Back to my point. I have strong religious beliefs. I don't want to sin (lust). I don't think Masterbation is the issue (some would disagree). It is the lust that I feel guilty about. Now having said that: I do have self-control. I don't gawk at women. I'm not sex crazed. But when I don't get fulfilled by my wife (like most, she goes spells not interested in sex, nothing wrong with us, we talk about it etc...) I do turn to my "back up" which is masturbating to female muscle! That is another issue. But again, I struggle. I know some think female muscle is weird, but i don't care! I have hid it, YES...from family and friends...but my wife knows. My therapist knew...She didn't agree with it and tho she helped me in other ways...she felt I should work on eliminating this desire all together. But HOW? And do i want to? NO!!!! I relate to luvembuff again...It is a BLESSING and a CURSE...but for different reasons. I'm happy with my non-muscular wife (I don't have that problem and I'm genuinely sorry for the men who do) but i also do not want to live without a part of this sexual attraction in my life. I am only attracted to WOMEN and if they have MUSCLE, oh boy, that is an upgrade physically! One guy on here said something like this: "you are trying to trick God, because you are really actually gay" inferring that we are really attracted to men and we turn to these muslce women as an alternative! What hogwash, in my humble opinion... I do not find muscle on men attractive nor do I find men attractive in any way sexually!! That is so wrong I can't even begin to explain. Now some may have that issue BUT I DON'T! So you can't lump us all in that catagory! as i stated earier...MUSCLE on women is totally different looking for those who really look and know what they are looking at... It is sooooo beautiful! So, does anyone have that struggle? Primarily a struggle based on the Bible and faith? If so, i'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you for your time and be blessed!

Don’t. I used to years ago, but then I made an effort to talk to some and get to know them. I actually feel proud now when I’m out in public with them

There’s nothing wrong with being gay. If you’re looking for somebody to help you be comfortable with yourself, starting from a position that being gay is bad, I don’t know how to help you.

Liking women with muscles does not mean that you are gay. I guess that’s all I have to offer for you. The rest of that stuff about the Bible and all, is beyond my philosophy.

From the time I was 7 and saw my muscular 2nd grade teacher brushing her hair, I was captivated. So beautiful but how on earth could her biceps be so big. Her Air Force husband, used to visit her in class and run his hands along her beautiful arms as they talked. I was insanely jealous. I hated him for having this beautiful super woman for his wife!!! That started a life long quest to maybe someday find one for myself. Sadly, way back then, muscles on females was deemed as ugly and gross, so I hid my deep attraction for them. There were times when I'd hit the jackpot and date a girl with muscles. Unfortunately, as soon as my focus went to her biceps, trying to explore her arms, it would freak her out. They were not exactly proud of their muscles. Thankfully, through the years, as our archaic society started to evolve along with our women, muscles are not only becoming acceptable but are seen as attractive. I doubt the majority will ever find extremely muscular women as blisteringly hot as we do but at least times are changing. I don't feel guilty and never have. I've always felt confused though. Why do I feel the way I do?

I'm quite certain that there's nothing wrong or weird about loving the look of a muscular woman. All it means is that she is naturally athletic and has made the effort to develop her body. How could it possibly be wrong to admire such a person? Having it be OK to be a strong woman, to be able to take care of yourself, and be self--reliant and strong is all part of the liberation of women. What could be wrong with any of that unless the woman feels terribly compelled to look a certain way only to please others?

@Eatskeetdelete and anyone in this thread that is interested. My 2 cents: Let me first say, I accept the Bible as truth and I love God. So know that first, you might want to stop reading (don't judge me LOL) As a Christian, I HAVE struggled with my love for Women with Muscle. Not because I'm insecure...I sure as hell aren't gay (that offends me the most).

What did gay people ever do to you?

Maybe you can use your own attraction to muscular women, of which in your heart you know that it will always be there (as most of us do), to better understand that being gay is not a "choice". You did not choose to find muscle girls hot either, it's just the way you are, the way god created you.

So now cope with this: He created gay people too. Millions of them. He didn't create them to have a lifelong struggle about trying not to be gay anymore. Or for you to look down uppon them or you beeing looked down uppon by your religious friends who don't find muscular women in the bible.

If you don't want to go to hell, you should start worrying about that more than about beeing attracted to muscles.

I think it's great that your wife knows about your attraction though and seems to be okay with it! That's what love is about, acceptance of an other human being with all the flaws and strenghts that he or she has.

What did gay people ever do to you?

Maybe you can use your own attraction to muscular women, of which in your heart you know that it will always be there (as most of us do), to better understand that being gay is not a "choice". You did not choose to find muscle girls hot either, it's just the way you are, the way god created you.

So now cope with this: He created gay people too. Millions of them. He didn't create them to have a lifelong struggle about trying not to be gay anymore. Or for you to look down uppon them or you beeing looked down uppon by your religious friends who don't find muscular women in the bible.

If you don't want to go to hell, you should start worrying about that more than about beeing attracted to muscles.

I think it's great that your wife knows about your attraction though and seems to be okay with it! That's what love is about, acceptance of an other human being with all the flaws and strenghts that he or she has.

Well, He created people will free will and the ability to resist the temptation of sin through Him and Jesus. The whole point of Christianity is acknowledging that you're a sinner and having a path to forgiveness for the sins you commit. Just continuing to sin and saying "Welp, it's just the way God made me. I don't have to resist sin or any temptation", isn't a Christian value or how Christianity works in general.

Also: Lets not fool ourselves. The narrative that all these woman are healthy and take great care of themselves is bullshit. There is a lot of drug abuse going on. A ton of these woman have serious self-image issues, severe body dysmorphia and there is definitely a dark side to all of this. Lets just stay realistic and not idealise everything.

Thanks dude!

These are aspects which I don't see very often here and generate quite a lot of guilt in my case.

It just doesn’t feel that right to me when I give a like and write a flattering comment to a post on a GWM's social media profile in which she clearly uses gear and in some cases has a low as fuck body fat percentage.

It’s like motivating an anorexic girl with comments like: “Wow!! So impressive how you managed to get so thin that every single vein is visible! That must have taken a lot of discipline, determination, strict diet and all around hard work! Bravo!"

Or like giving support to an overweight girl with stuff like: “Wow!!! Incredible how much mass you have gained in such a short time!! Beautiful! Soon you will step on the scale with 600 lbs. Congratulations!”

Yes, beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, but my dilemma is that in my book an individual's health should come first and not if I can jack off to a girl who fucks up herself up with a shitload of anabolic steroids/other detrimental substances and mental issues just because I have a fetish.

I'm quite certain that there's nothing wrong or weird about loving the look of a muscular woman. All it means is that she is naturally athletic and has made the effort to develop her body. How could it possibly be wrong to admire such a person? Having it be OK to be a strong woman, to be able to take care of yourself, and be self--reliant and strong is all part of the liberation of women. What could be wrong with any of that unless the woman feels terribly compelled to look a certain way only to please others?

The problem is when it becomes a "fetish" and the central focus of attraction. When that happens, people will justify any and all means to achieve that end like, for example, using PED's which compromises the Soul. Men can and do literally lead women into very dark places by manipulating them into thinking it's ok to use these and other drugs in order to feel attractive which gives them value - but almost always just temporarily...

@Eatskeetdelete and anyone in this thread that is interested. My 2 cents: Let me first say, I accept the Bible as truth and I love God. So know that first, you might want to stop reading (don't judge me LOL) As a Christian, I HAVE struggled with my love for Women with Muscle. Not because I'm insecure... your thoughts. Thank you for your time and be blessed!

1) I don't think Jesus was against paragraphs, so you should consider using them.

2) I'm going to guess you're not from a native-English speaking culture, which is probably why you haven't been force-fed gay acceptance. Don't worry, your culture will be in the crosshairs soon enough.

3) An admonition against finding women besides your own wife attractive is likely intended to keep you from treating the pleasure of sex as something other than a gift from God for procreation. In other words, "don't whore around making kids without fathers". I say that because the Bible is full of wisdom, but was not written in an age of nuance. Not committing adultery will achieve the same social goal as 10 paragraphs explaining "why not".

4) Thus I don't see attraction-without-action as sinful, but I certainly have no inside scoop. Don't bother dropping my name to St. Peter if you get questioned. I am also a believer. My wife knows I enjoy this, so I'm not hiding it, and she's got some great muscle herself. Seems as harmless as preferring big boobs over small ones. Tall over short, Dodge over Chevy, etc. Just don't let it rule your life. I never actually talk to these women or encourage anything harmful. They're just other free-will people and I leave them alone.

The problem is when it becomes a "fetish" and the central focus of attraction. When that happens, people will justify any and all means to achieve that end like, for example, using PED's which compromises the Soul. Men can and do literally lead women into very dark places by manipulating them into thinking it's ok to use these and other drugs in order to feel attractive which gives them value - but almost always just temporarily...

As I say, "unless the woman feels terribly compelled to look a certain way only to please others."

The problem is when it becomes a "fetish" and the central focus of attraction. When that happens, people will justify any and all means to achieve that end like, for example, using PED's which compromises the Soul. Men can and do literally lead women into very dark places by manipulating them into thinking it's ok to use these and other drugs in order to feel attractive which gives them value - but almost always just temporarily...

As I say, "unless the woman feels terribly compelled to look a certain way only to please others."

Do you know any women who don't want to look good for others? The bodybuilding look for women is relatively recent and still a bit of a phenomenon. Sometimes, it can be necessary to "discourage" friends from going down a bad path that seems like it's a good one (the light at the end of the tunnel might be an oncoming train). Just food for thought...

1) I don't think Jesus was against paragraphs, so you should consider using them.

2) I'm going to guess you're not from a native-English speaking culture, which is probably why you haven't been force-fed gay acceptance. Don't worry, your culture will be in the crosshairs soon enough.

3) An admonition against finding women besides your own wife attractive is likely intended to keep you from treating the pleasure of sex as something other than a gift from God for procreation. In other words, "don't whore around making kids without fathers". I say that because the Bible is full of wisdom, but was not written in an age of nuance. Not committing adultery will achieve the same social goal as 10 paragraphs explaining "why not".

4) Thus I don't see attraction-without-action as sinful, but I certainly have no inside scoop. Don't bother dropping my name to St. Peter if you get questioned. I am also a believer. My wife knows I enjoy this, so I'm not hiding it, and she's got some great muscle herself. Seems as harmless as preferring big boobs over small ones. Tall over short, Dodge over Chevy, etc. Just don't let it rule your life. I never actually talk to these women or encourage anything harmful. They're just other free-will people and I leave them alone.

You are a man of the people Kevin! Respect.

i think this has run its course.