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I have a slightly different question I've been meaning to ask. Why does anyone care about their removal requests? Why grant it? Everything posted on the site is part of public domain, so it's perfectly legal to keep their pictures posted here whether they want it or not.
Do these girls go to reddit and ask their pictures to be removed from the various subreddits they've been posted in...
If I had to guess either some of them did not want the attention being on the site can bring (more than a few women I’ve talked to, including Alexandria Cochran, who is fine being on the site, reported a pretty big influx in followers after being posted here), negative or otherwise. Or maybe they didn’t want to be lumped in a pretty obvious place dedicated to this fandom. Or maybe didn’t want personal connections or employers reading comments or seeing the photos publicly, especially for women who are retired or left bodybuilding.
I don’t really buy the latter. A first-page google search will bring up most of the women on the ban list via their public social media or any of the pay sites if they happen to be on them.
However we do want to respect their wishes if they don’t want their stuff aggregated here. I myself have not been around for a requested take down so maybe one of the other mods has better insight
I have a slightly different question I've been meaning to ask. Why does anyone care about their removal requests? Why grant it? Everything posted on the site is part of public domain, so it's perfectly legal to keep their pictures posted here whether they want it or not.
Do these girls go to reddit and ask their pictures to be removed from the various subreddits they've been posted in...
If you think the pics are public domain, maybe you can point us to the associated disclaimer or maybe Creative Commons license? Because without explicitly making them public domain, the photo owner retains copyright. Thats true even if the image is on a "free" website like Instagram.
If you think the pics are public domain, maybe you can point us to the associated disclaimer or maybe Creative Commons license? Because without explicitly making them public domain, the photo owner retains copyright. Thats true even if the image is on a "free" website like Instagram.
Creative Commons license and public domain are two different things. Something that is in public domain would not have a CC license. CC grants use privileges to copyrighted material. Public domain is non-copyrighted material available freely to the public.
Generally speaking, selfies aren't copyrighted material.
"And you know what else, everything we post on social media falls into the public domain. Yes, everything, including your Instagram photos of course. And because copyright laws are rather flexible in that domain, anyone can actually share and even sell your photos."
https://wersm.com/no-your-instagram-photos-ar...
Sure, the owners of the photos will scream and complain, but they will never win a court battle. So, the girls can complain all they want, there wouldn't be anything they could actually do about it.
@Tall1 Congratulations, you found a couple sentences from some clickbait website that doesn't know what it's talking about regarding international copyright law either. This is all irrelevant since the site's policies aren't changing, any further posts on the subject will be removed as offtopic for the thread. Make a new thread if you really want to argue about it.
EDIT: I'm leaving the post immediately after this one up since it was obviously being written at the same time as this one and the author wouldn't have had a chance to see it.
Creative Commons license and public domain are two different things. Something that is in public domain would not have a CC license. CC grants use privileges to copyrighted material. Public domain is non-copyrighted material available freely to the public.
Generally speaking, selfies aren't copyrighted material.
"And you know what else, everything we post on social media falls into the public domain. Yes, everything, including your Instagram photos of course. And because copyright laws are rather flexible in that domain, anyone can actually share and even sell your photos."
https://wersm.com/no-your-instagram-photos-ar...
Sure, the owners of the photos will scream and complain, but they will never win a court battle. So, the girls can complain all they want, there wouldn't be anything they could actually do about it.
Hey, I can post a random website that uses the exact same case to prove my side instead.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?...
Or you can read the copyright office guide, which makes it clear that copyright is automatic.
Plus, the idea that you should ignore them because "they can't do anything about it" is really shitty.
Because any time mods anywhere enforce policy in any way they get the same response from someone. Full stop, they ask, we take down. I would hate to see if someone with any kind of clout decided to go against the one free to access site that isn’t trying to make a buck off of other peoples stuff (cough saradas). Thems the rules, though I wish people were less sensitive about their stuff being kept on here, like all of us are
EDIT: I would like to add this IMo shows respect for the women. In a previous thread a few people argued this is a pure fetish site. Idk I would prefer to respect the women instead of not respecting them and this falls under that umbrella.
As a note, and I’m sure some of you know, there are plenty who are members here who see all this discussion or report it back to women (I saw one such post on Kristina Moser’s page). So. Just something to keep in mind lol
What did Kristina say? I don’t recall seeing anything about the site on her page.
I disagree. GWM is basically a social media mirror,
GWM is not a mirror - it's an archive. On your own social media, you can delete photos and only show what you want. Those photos stay up permanently here, unless the model asks for a takedown every time. Models do in fact choose to delete older photos if they are changing their image. E.g. Caitlin Rice, who got butt implants and deleted her pre-implant photos.
and unless the account is private (or in her case straight up gone) I see no problem unless we are defaming someone or making money off of their image.
There are a lot of private instagram accounts whose photos we keep here, because the models do not or cannot be bothered to submit a takedown. Also, many people cannot make up their minds about keeping their IG private - they almost always make it public occasionally. GWM again acts as an archive - it neither automatically deletes or locks away photos just because someone deletes it on their social media, or has a breakup and makes their IG private for a week while removing photos of their ex.
This site is objectively not worse than some of her stuff she’s done on video in the past that have easily accessible screenshots that don’t point here. Some of the comments, on the other hand.....
GWM is tame, honestly. I think Aleesha's strategy is asinine, and goes against the reality of the internet, but I do still believe it's about (attempting) to shape her image via control.
Off season images Aleesha took of herself, and then posted to her own social media, are somehow a detriment to her image on said platforms? That makes so much sense
That was just an example, and most models usually post a mix of offseason and onseason pictures. The idea is that they can control that ratio. Or even frame it as a "transformation". "Look at me, I am super fit all year round but sometimes look like this" which I honestly see on at least half of all IG profiles.
On GWM, pictures from numerous sources or even pictures you deleted get archived here. It paints a realistic image of the person, versus the image they paint on their social media. In a way, GWM makes you lose control of your image. Though, not necessarily much more than you already do by posting your photos on the internet.
You mean like Kim Kardashian, who's not single and going through a divorce and couldn't shut up about getting robbed at gunpoint?
Touche. Though one could argue she's famous for notoriety, and not for being a role model like women here are.
All those couples and families with kids who make a living by sharing the hurdles of their lives through social media are also a bit inconvenient
Shrug. To attain a physique that looks amazing in photos is a significant investment in time, money, and energy. Making a living off of it is a way to recoup the cost, and possibly gain something more.
I don’t recall if there was a comment attached (and I didn’t take any screen caps at the time) but it was a screenshot of a pretty dumb comment she had gotten from someone here or someone that lurks. She posts pretty regularly about other men pretending not to have the fetish or really disparaging comments pretty often so probably one of those
To bring this back to a point relevant to the topic, the times I come in reverse order is either when the woman’s content j want is so old that it takes forever to load on social media (like Shannon Courtney) or to checks if they’re in the site at all. GWM is a much better historical pool because of its structure. Why school for 20 mins to get some of Lindsay from a few years ago when everything could be in 2-3 pages here?
Wasn’t Johanna Dejager removed also? Pretty great example as here content is nuked everywhere, unless you are a collector and have the stuff from her old site. Would love to see her stuff back on here