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Can muscle women do physical harm?

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

When someone finds out about your muscle woman fetish, one of the things they asked, is why are attracted to women who can get your ass? On the other hand, does having a muscular body make them any tougher or violent than any other woman? It’s always been a stereotype that female bodybuilders are violent, as in The Simpsons episode “The Great Arms of The Ma” Marge gets muscular and then goes after her attacker, reacting to a scene from The Godfather. Do muscles give these women a physical advantage in terms of fighting? If you were to fulfill your fantasy of dating an FFB would you or anyone think you’re putting yourselves at risk? I know there have been incidents such as Dani Reardon attacking her then-boyfriend in 2014, and the domestic abuse accident with influencer Jessica Piccoli. One thing I have noticed with (not all) FFBs is that they don’t lift very much. I remember Dani was always lifting small weights, but again some do lift pretty heavy. So my overall question is, does a woman with muscle have the ability to do physical harm to you, do muscles make them tough, and able to beat you up? Or would such a thing be a choice, like how a man doesn't hit a woman, or only in an act of self-defense?

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

It's what they're putting into their body that (potentially) makes them more aggressive. Especially those who are on more hardcore stuff like tren. As far as doing physical harm goes, that has been discussed a lot already, and it really depends on the people involved. But generally, no. Like you mentioned, most muscular women don't lift heavier than men. For the ones who do, that doesn't mean they can translate that power into fighting.

They're still human so of course violence is still a choice.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

When someone finds out about your muscle woman fetish, one of the things they asked, is why are attracted to women who can get your ass? On the other hand, does having a muscular body make them any tougher or violent than any other woman? It’s always been a stereotype that female bodybuilders are violent, as in The Simpsons episode “The Great Arms of The Ma” Marge gets muscular and then goes after her attacker, reacting to a scene from The Godfather. Do muscles give these women a physical advantage in terms of fighting? If you were to fulfill your fantasy of dating an FFB would you or anyone think you’re putting yourselves at risk? I know there have been incidents such as Dani Reardon attacking her then-boyfriend in 2014, and the domestic abuse accident with influencer Jessica Piccoli. One thing I have noticed with (not all) FFBs is that they don’t lift very much. I remember Dani was always lifting small weights, but again some do lift pretty heavy. So my overall question is, does a woman with muscle have the ability to do physical harm to you, do muscles make them tough, and able to beat you up? Or would such a thing be a choice, like how a man doesn't hit a woman, or only in an act of self-defense?

Most people cannot fight.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

Most people cannot fight.

This.

"Can muscle women do physical harm?" Sure. Just as anyone can. But does a muscular person also somehow gain an ability to fight in conjunction? Not if they didn't train for it. Remember how they got muscular? Oh yea, they trained for it!

From your questions it's pretty clear that you've never been in a fight. If you had, you'd know that having a bunch of extra muscle isn't a magic bullet in a fight. Keep your eye on the short wiry guy with cauliflower ears...That's the one that's gonna kick your ass.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

It's important to consider fighting style in addition to fighting skill and power level. While true fighting skill can only be developed through time spent working on specific techniques, it must also be paired with real world practice. Hard sparring is one method used, but Muay Thai fighters and some MMA fighters avoid hard sparring and Max Holloway, among others, forego sparring altogether. It's important to consider that while a muscular woman lack reps on specific fighting techniques, she is training her muscles and endurance, thus raising her power level.

Having established that foundation, it is important to highlight how effective raising power level is for combat efficacy. In the realm of fiction, The Hulk has low fighting skill, but his high power level allows him to 1v1 far more skilled fighters like Thor. Not until he meets Thanos, does his lack of skill come to the forefront. The same applies in real life examples. Sure, a muscular woman with no training would lose badly to Francis Ngannou or Jon Jones in hand to hand combat. Even so, she would defeat you quite handily. Her victory over you, in most cases, would be do to her higher power level and not her greater fighting skill.

We must then consider muscular women who further hone their fighting skills to match their higher power level. Women like Katie Lee, Corinne Holt, Lexa Stahl, and many others have developed their fighting skills through hours of hard work and dedication. This focused skill building increases their Harm Quotient exponentially. A woman with a power level of 9,000 or more, who also trains, poses an immense physical threat. The teachings of martial arts help quell the threat as most skilled fighters refrain from using their skills offensively against civilians.

In summary: Yes, muscular women can cause extreme physical harm. Their immense power levels more than compensate for their lack of practical fighting experience. From a striking or grappling standpoint, no untrained person would stand a chance. Additionally, many muscular women train in martial arts to develop additional fighting skills. These women possess the ability to inflict immense damage, but the discipline and restraint of true martial arts masters means you're safe in everyday interactions.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

It depends.

Those women who are completely jacked up on gear, they're 5'2 180lbs, I don't see them being able to fight. I see them being winded in no time. But those that look like they're tall, lean, have serious endurance where they can do a solid 10 - 15 pullups in one go, etc, I can see those ones doing damage.

Especially if they have any sort of fight training.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

I'd suggest you are underestimating the fact that anyone can do you serious physical harm and they don't need training or a strength advantage to do it; violence of action is likely enough to inflict damage the majority of people who, generally speaking, are neither prepared nor inclined to fight.

The improvements one makes to their strength, weight, endurance through exercise n weight training will help push the statistics in a favorable direction, but unless someone has experience or training to fight in some capacity, I'd argue that luck is going to be more important than any of those things.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

They have a big avantage compared to most people if you are not trained they will destroy you. they could be slightly more aggressive than the average woman. but most are not agressive at all so just enjoy and just don't try to fight her. it's rare for relationships to have both partners to have equal strength but usually the man is stronger. but what I am trying to say is that you shouldn't have to worry about getting attacked by your girlfriend. it can happen but it's not likely you got to worry more about random people that you don't know.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

There was a video that Vladislava once did with a guy who was about 5'10 160lbs a few years ago. They did comparisons, also wrestled. I believe she was about 180lbs in the video. During the wrestling, you could tell the guy was actually trying, but the way she easily manhandled him leaves zero doubt that if she meant to do real harm, there'd be nothing he could do to stop her. Plus, she has actual fighting skills too.

So, it really all depends.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

Look at the Mandy Polk fight videos

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

Look at the Mandy Polk fight videos

She is the exception, not the norm.

And I did see her fight against Mackenzie Dern, and oofta that was a rough night for her.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

When someone finds out about your muscle woman fetish, one of the things they asked, is why are attracted to women who can get your ass? On the other hand, does having a muscular body make them any tougher or violent than any other woman? It’s always been a stereotype that female bodybuilders are violent, as in The Simpsons episode “The Great Arms of The Ma” Marge gets muscular and then goes after her attacker, reacting to a scene from The Godfather. Do muscles give these women a physical advantage in terms of fighting? If you were to fulfill your fantasy of dating an FFB would you or anyone think you’re putting yourselves at risk? I know there have been incidents such as Dani Reardon attacking her then-boyfriend in 2014, and the domestic abuse accident with influencer Jessica Piccoli. One thing I have noticed with (not all) FFBs is that they don’t lift very much. I remember Dani was always lifting small weights, but again some do lift pretty heavy. So my overall question is, does a woman with muscle have the ability to do physical harm to you, do muscles make them tough, and able to beat you up? Or would such a thing be a choice, like how a man doesn't hit a woman, or only in an act of self-defense?

I had a session with Renne Toney. I was pretty buff, but she was easily twice as strong as I was (maybe 4x as strong as a average out-of-shape guy). She could choke a man to death with one arm, without breaking a sweat.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

I had a session with Renne Toney. I was pretty buff, but she was easily twice as strong as I was (maybe 4x as strong as a average out-of-shape guy). She could choke a man to death with one arm, without breaking a sweat.

A 110 pound petite woman can also choke a man to death if they get the hold cinched in properly.

You don't need a lot of strength to execute an effective choke.

Feb 20, 2025 - permalink

I had a session with Renne Toney. I was pretty buff, but she was easily twice as strong as I was (maybe 4x as strong as a average out-of-shape guy). She could choke a man to death with one arm, without breaking a sweat.

I envy you for that chance :-)

Feb 21, 2025 - permalink

A 110 pound petite woman can also choke a man to death if they get the hold cinched in properly.

And hold the choke too long

You don't need a lot of strength to execute an effective choke.

Indeed

Feb 21, 2025 - permalink

A fit,strong,athletic individual always has the upper hand in a fight,luck plays a huge role too(didn't talk about fighting experience as most people on average don't train to fight)

Feb 24, 2025 - permalink
Feb 25, 2025 - permalink

a strong woman like karla nelson can harm normal guy badly

Feb 26, 2025 - permalink

Dominique Danger (Shereen F) beat up a guy in a bar fight and got arrested for it.

But don’t think most female bodybuilders can fight and despite strength they aren’t athletic (fast twitch)

Feb 28, 2025 - permalink

Mikki99 is correct also they train for hypertrophy not strength in special situations like wrestling where you twist and turn.

Another is neuromuscular control, a strong woman is still a woman and for example untrained "throws like a girl" and moves like one, this is why women get injured a lot In for example soccer.

Then there is the difference in males being naturally more aggressive with and having less lax joints and more inherent explosive power due to muscle composition of fast twitch ribers

Feb 28, 2025 - permalink

No they can’t. Their body parts phase through matter like Vision. They’re simply not capable of applying force to solid objects, unfortunately.

Feb 28, 2025 - permalink

No but they can hurt you in other ways

Mar 12, 2025 - permalink

There was a video that Vladislava once did with a guy who was about 5'10 160lbs a few years ago. They did comparisons, also wrestled. I believe she was about 180lbs in the video. During the wrestling, you could tell the guy was actually trying, but the way she easily manhandled him leaves zero doubt that if she meant to do real harm, there'd be nothing he could do to stop her. Plus, she has actual fighting skills too.

So, it really all depends.

This is really not a good example considering she literally weighed more than him while also being proportionally extremely strong for her weight. Definitely overkill.

I am interested in this video if you have it though

Mar 12, 2025 - edited Mar 12, 2025 - permalink

Well theres really a few factors here that all have some basis and overlap but it's really not that simple.

By in large I would argue that yes, muscular women are able to do harm, but it's more nuanced.

  1. Strength isnt skill but its still strength. Yes, having muscles doesn't mean you can fight, but it doesn't mean you arent strong. If a man of woman of equal skill fought but the woman was 3x stronger/more muscular, that man is going to the ER. Similarly, if a man is skilled but the woman is still way stronger, she will likely beat his ass still. I would bet money that an average build guy who's a master at MMA would get wooped by some of the larger girls here. Skill means nothing when your opponent is strong enough to lift your entire body with one arm and their muscles are thick enough to actually block hits (see the girl who smashed a walnut on her abs using an 8 lb dumbbell without budging)

  2. Chemicals and Hormones. Working out tends to increase testosterone which tends to increase aggression. Now I'm not saying Testosterone instantly turns someone into a raging gorilla but it certainly makes people more combative especially if overdosed. This isnt even talking about PEDs which most women here are on and which obviously does increase aggression. This likely means a GWM would be gem to cause more harm due to lack of restraint on who they attack, why, and when they stop.

  3. Reasons. Many muscular women have reasons such as sports (fighting too), self defense, or even rarely just wanting to be able to overpower men (for any reason) to get strong. These women obviously are imagining their bodies as being used for physical purposes so would likely be able to inflict more harm than a more passive muscular woman and definitely more than an average woman. They also likely have training relevant to fighting/harming so that makes them exponentially more capable. A punch from a female boxer may surpass one from a female bodybuilder, but get a female boxer with a bodybuilders frame and you're going to have lethal punches.

  4. Opportunities. A normal woman might just shy away or leave if they get harassed or something like groped, while a muscular women would knock the mans teeth in most cases. This is because they are capable of doing it, and likely know it.

  5. Personality. Muscular women tend to be much more outgoing, expressive, and confident than non muscular ones, otherwise they would likely not have began the journey or be as showing-offy as they are today.

The root here is really two things, though. Gender and size.

It is true that men are stronger than women proportionally speaking. If you took a man and woman with identical muscle mass and even testosterone the man will straight up still be stronger because of the difference in body composition. This does not mean that the same woman wouldnt beat the shit out of a weaker man.

Another case is size to strength. Many women here on PEDs have utterly insane size and strength but their strength is lower than what would be expected if their muscles were fully natural. However even if their muscles are only 80-90% strong as 100% natural ones, it wont matter when they have 400%+ more total muscle mass than the average guy or still many dozen pounds over active lifters.

This is also offset by the fact that PEDs sometimes unnaturally make the muscle stronger via other substances, so even if the muscle wouldnt be as strong as natural ones alone, now it's not only way larger but also way stronger proportionally, which just turns the previous numbers even crazier.

So yes, in 99% cases, a muscular woman can hurt someone much more than an average person could, especially if attacking someone who's weaker and/or less skilled than them, or they're on PEDs which unnaturally increase strength beyond what their muscles would suggest.

Mar 12, 2025 - permalink

Well theres really a few factors here that all have some basis and overlap but it's really not that simple.

By in large I would argue that yes, muscular women are able to do harm, but it's more nuanced.

  1. Strength isnt skill but its still strength. Yes, having muscles doesn't mean you can fight, but it doesn't mean you arent strong. If a man of woman of equal skill fought but the woman was 3x stronger/more muscular, that man is going to the ER. Similarly, if a man is skilled but the woman is still way stronger, she will likely beat his ass still. I would bet money that an average build guy who's a master at MMA would get wooped by some of the larger girls here. Skill means nothing when your opponent is strong enough to lift your entire body with one arm and their muscles are thick enough to actually block hits (see the girl who smashed a walnut on her abs using an 8 lb dumbbell without budging)

  2. Chemicals and Hormones. Working out tends to increase testosterone which tends to increase aggression. Now I'm not saying Testosterone instantly turns someone into a raging gorilla but it certainly makes people more combative especially if overdosed. This isnt even talking about PEDs which most women here are on and which obviously does increase aggression. This likely means a GWM would be gem to cause more harm due to lack of restraint on who they attack, why, and when they stop.

  3. Reasons. Many muscular women have reasons such as sports (fighting too), self defense, or even rarely just wanting to be able to overpower men (for any reason) to get strong. These women obviously are imagining their bodies as being used for physical purposes so would likely be able to inflict more harm than a more passive muscular woman and definitely more than an average woman. They also likely have training relevant to fighting/harming so that makes them exponentially more capable. A punch from a female boxer may surpass one from a female bodybuilder, but get a female boxer with a bodybuilders frame and you're going to have lethal punches.

  4. Opportunities. A normal woman might just shy away or leave if they get harassed or something like groped, while a muscular women would knock the mans teeth in most cases. This is because they are capable of doing it, and likely know it.

  5. Personality. Muscular women tend to be much more outgoing, expressive, and confident than non muscular ones, otherwise they would likely not have began the journey or be as showing-offy as they are today.

The root here is really two things, though. Gender and size.

It is true that men are stronger than women proportionally speaking. If you took a man and woman with identical muscle mass and even testosterone the man will straight up still be stronger because of the difference in body composition. This does not mean that the same woman wouldnt beat the shit out of a weaker man.

Another case is size to strength. Many women here on PEDs have utterly insane size and strength but their strength is lower than what would be expected if their muscles were fully natural. However even if their muscles are only 80-90% strong as 100% natural ones, it wont matter when they have 400%+ more total muscle mass than the average guy or still many dozen pounds over active lifters.

This is also offset by the fact that PEDs sometimes unnaturally make the muscle stronger via other substances, so even if the muscle wouldnt be as strong as natural ones alone, now it's not only way larger but also way stronger proportionally, which just turns the previous numbers even crazier.

So yes, in 99% cases, a muscular woman can hurt someone much more than an average person could, especially if attacking someone who's weaker and/or less skilled than them, or they're on PEDs which unnaturally increase strength beyond what their muscles would suggest.

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