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I feel lost guys

Oct 23, 2024 - permalink

Hi guys, writting this is quite hard for me, I am not used to open up about my feelings, but I think that sharing it with you is going to help me.

To give you some context, right now I am 25 years old. I should not complain about my life because I am thankful to have a supportive family, good friends, and in general terms, a good life. But this thing of being attracted to muscular women is something that is not allowing me to progress in life.

The regular girls do not catch my attention, it is like I am just attracted to girls with muscle. I wouldn't mind to be in a relationship with a regular girl, but I am not brave enough to open up to her and share my attraction, I feel that I am just going to be a wierdo. Also, this isn't allowing me to be 100% natural with the people around me. I feel that I am always hiding something, not being who I really am.

On the other side, I've been able to meet a few girls that I am attracted to, but if it isn't through Instagram or a social media, I am not confident enough to approach for example a girl at the gym and start chatting with her. It is like my heart starts to beat so fast and I start to have negative thoughts about that she es going to find that I am nervous or something. I don't know.

I don't want to be arrogant, but I am actually a handsome guy with a good physique and really open minded, but despite that it is like I am not confident enough to express myself to people around me. What scares me the most is to keep going through life without doing the things that I really like to do.

I am fully open to hear your opinions. Also, sorry for my english, I am learning =)

I have to say that it felt good writting it, if some of you are going through the same, it would be cool for you to express yourselves.

Oct 23, 2024 - permalink

I don't blame you for feeling conflicted for certain decisions you want to make in your life. If you are striving to be physically healthy, then I'm sure you will find a woman who is also very fit. You are an adult. You can choose for yourself and don't feel badgered into liking someone you don't like just to appease friends/family. Do what is best for you and that makes you happy. You will never meet the perfect woman ever. I suggest just dating and getting to know the woman.

Oct 23, 2024 - permalink

Yea I get it I am still attracted to normal women but fbbs are a lot more attractive. but I think perfect is the enemy of good and with how rare muscular women are you can't just wait for the perfect woman to show up.

Oct 23, 2024 - permalink

You are quite young LocalD. First of all, relax. Secondly, look to the future --- what do you see yourself doing when you are 40? Work towards that goal and build your skillsets with that in mind. What is important is to make something of yourself that satisfies you and gives meaning to what you are and will be. Whether you end up as a nurse-practitioner, a heavy equipment operator, a government factotem, a visual artist or a plumber/pipefitter, doesn't matter. What does matter is that you are happy and, lo and behold, if you are confident, happy and open-minded, you will attract the attention of women --- maybe even muscular women.

Your English is excellent LocalD so don't worry yourself about that.

We all wish you well in your Life Journey.

Oct 23, 2024 - edited Oct 23, 2024 - permalink

Join a gym. Get huge. The women will approach YOU. Also, most hot women don't like to be hit on at the gym. You have to wait for a signal. Unless you are really, really big.

25 is so young. Don't fret. There are way more muscle women nowadays. Go to a bodybuilding competition. The audiences are full of them.

Oct 25, 2024 - edited Oct 25, 2024 - permalink
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Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

I really do get your point localdumy. I am in sort of the exact situation, but then as a 24 year old.

i find it really frustrating somehow to have the idea that there are quite some muscular girls out there and that i cannot experience the feeling being with them. But i am also only attrachted to them.

Last week i was thinking about it and i couldnt get my head around it. Tried some apps, but man that is useless.

I think it is just a bit of luck to get to the girl with muscles. ofcourse sometimes you can increase your chances by going to the gym regularly, joining some fitness-like running clubs, crossfit etc. But mostly just luck.

A old friend of my does have a relationship with a girl who has pretty decent muscles (does track and field). Not big but naturally toned, the muscles which will apply to this site. But he doesn't care about it. When i asked it how he feels about it he will respond 'mmmyes, fine. If she likes it...' how frustrating.

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

Youre still young, the world lays before you.

How about that: next time you meet a girl that you find attractive, but not fit: just think of her potentials. go to the gym together and enjoy the time.

I can relate to what you are saying, when i was younger it turned into a fix idea, almost a obsession. Just experiencing the transformation by going to the gym together might turn the compulsion into something positive. Helps to better understand the motives of women who are working out, and the challenges. It can help to grow together. And you can enjoy every little improvement.

Not meaning to tell or lecture, just brining in a possibility.

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

When you’re in the gym, all it takes is a smile and a “good morning” take it slow and more will come. Eventually you will talk a little more and eventually you may become good friends. This is true it has happened to me.

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

When you’re in the gym, all it takes is a smile and a “good morning” take it slow and more will come. Eventually you will talk a little more and eventually you may become good friends. This is true it has happened to me.

Yes, if you go regularly then you will see the regular girls that come at your time. At first smile or just say hi and if she shows you intent then you can proceed more or back away. One thing that I sometimes do is ask for help. Ask them about some specific exercises that only girls do or any special equipment that she uses etc. you can also ask them to spot you if you are going for a max. This was they will feel comfortable with you and you can talk more and more and then maybe ask her out.

P.s I have only made friends in the gym using this method not girlfriends

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink
  1. It is perfectly normal to feel anxious/afraid of approaching people. Especially if you're not used to it.

  2. Practice being friendly and social with everyone around you (not just hot girls). Feels weird in the beginning, but it will soon become a habit.

  3. I also only feel attracted towards fit chicks - and that's why I only date fit chicks! Nothing wrong with that. And no, you DON'T need to be a bodybuilder in order to date athletic women (regardless of what some people here say).

Just be more talkative to people around you, it will solve 80% of your problems.

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

This advice has been given before on this site in various forums. You need to work on yourself and build up your self esteem and confidence before you can expect a meaningful relationship. You need to be the guy that women want to date. If you want a buff athletic woman then you need to hit the gym and get in shape yourself. Not sure if you ever dated a girl but you need to learn how to talk and flirt with women in person and not rely on interactions or expectations based on social media.

Oct 25, 2024 - permalink

Oh you guys meet girls at all. Crying in aerospace major. ^^

Oct 26, 2024 - edited Oct 26, 2024 - permalink

Meditation and making friends with women is what helped me with this.

Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

Hi guys, I am sorry for not giving you some feedback

I have been coming to the post to review what you said this past week, and it has defenetly helped me to leave my confort zone.

I have started to speak with a girl from my gym, it is incredible how nervous I was at first, but since I started talking to her I've noticed that she is just a normal girl. Now I don't feel nervous and I enjoy so much chatting with her. I have not been able to ask her for her instagram, I don't wanna rush yet, but I think I am doing pretty good.

As most of you said, just giving a smile back or even saying hello is what is going to give you most of the opportunities. Another thing that has been coming to my mind lately is about a quote that I've heard lately. It says that you can be nervous in a determinated situation, everybody has their own fears, but what has to be the top of your thoughts is about your intentions. If your intentions are good, which is just to get to know a woman or whatever field you want to apply this in, you shouldn't be scared of nothing. My main goal was to get to know the girl, I wasn't going to do anything wrong, so why should I be nervous. I don't know if I have explained it correctly, but as far as I am concernec it has helped me.

I am open to chat with some of you that are in the same situation as me, it has also helped me the fact that I am not the only one with these type of thoughts.

Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

It may sound a little weird, but you can use "normal" girls for practice. Nothing to loose here since you are not interested in them. If you think you know how it works you can approach the fitness or muscle girls..

Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

It may sound a little weird, but you can use "normal" girls for practice. Nothing to loose here since you are not interested in them. If you think you know how it works you can approach the fitness or muscle girls..

How would you like it if a woman "flirts" with you for practice when in reality they want to go with a guy who is taller/more muscular/etc than you? Would feel shitty, right?

Don't do that. It's disrespectful as hell.

Oct 29, 2024 - edited Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

How would you like it if a woman "flirts" with you for practice when in reality they want to go with a guy who is taller/more muscular/etc than you? Would feel shitty, right?

Don't do that. It's disrespectful as hell.

Personally never saw this as a problem since people are allowed to change their minds, I think the only way I could see this being a issue would be if the person was a coworker.. never date or flirt with a coworker

And yes women do this all the time never hurt my feelings it can be fun.

Oct 29, 2024 - edited Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

I have been completely enamored with, lusted over, been addicted to girls and later...women with muscles my entire life. In high school, I could talk to the prettiest girls with no problem. However, there were several girls with muscular arms and I dried up like a raisin in their presence. The sad thing is, this was back in the late 1960s and those same muscular girls were teased about having muscles. They probably would have loved for me to tell them how beautiful they were.

I guess my comment has little to do with your post but I too, have always been extremely attracted to girls with muscle. To me, I would have and still would prefer a muscular woman, even a plain looking one over a beautiful woman who has no interest in being toned.

Oct 29, 2024 - edited Oct 30, 2024 - permalink

Hi guys, writting this is quite hard for me, I am not used to open up about my feelings, but I think that sharing it with you is going to help me.

To give you some context, right now I am 25 years old. I should not complain about my life because I am thankful to have a supportive family, good friends, and in general terms, a good life. But this thing of being attracted to muscular women is something that is not allowing me to progress in life.

The regular girls do not catch my attention, it is like I am just attracted to girls with muscle. I wouldn't mind to be in a relationship with a regular girl, but I am not brave enough to open up to her and share my attraction, I feel that I am just going to be a wierdo. Also, this isn't allowing me to be 100% natural with the people around me. I feel that I am always hiding something, not being who I really am.

On the other side, I've been able to meet a few girls that I am attracted to, but if it isn't through Instagram or a social media, I am not confident enough to approach for example a girl at the gym and start chatting with her. It is like my heart starts to beat so fast and I start to have negative thoughts about that she es going to find that I am nervous or something. I don't know.

I don't want to be arrogant, but I am actually a handsome guy with a good physique and really open minded, but despite that it is like I am not confident enough to express myself to people around me. What scares me the most is to keep going through life without doing the things that I really like to do.

I am fully open to hear your opinions. Also, sorry for my english, I am learning =)

I have to say that it felt good writting it, if some of you are going through the same, it would be cool for you to express yourselves.

Before I answered this, I read everything the other have said and it's great that men who love muscular, strong, and even dominant women are capable of sticking together this way and giving great advice. Now, my two cents...

It's a bit of a story (The only people who know this about me in this level of detail are my shrink and my wife), and won't tell you what to do, just what I've done. I'm 52 years old, and I've been attracted to female body builders since seeing one on a TV show called "Real People" when I was 8 years old. I collected magazines with just about any title, I taped the contests and shows run on ESPN and a show called MuscleSport USA and played them until the tapes would snap from over use. I was young and horny and had a threadbare love/sex life and all the while I was absorbing all these videos and photos and reading the interviews and having this encyclopedic knowledge that I kept bottled in for decades.

I didn't start admitting to my girlfriends that I liked bodybuilders until I was 40. I was SO sure that being into female muscle made me a deviant and a pervert, that I couldn't even say the word "bodybuilding" out loud in conversation. On the flipside, starting when I was 25, I WOULD admit to the girls I got involved with that I liked THEIR muscles, and even told a couple of them things along the line of thinking I'd still be attracted to them if they lifted weights and "got bigger." It took me until I was 29 years old to have the first girlfriend who I talked about it with, and even showed here a couple of issues from my collection of Muscle Elegance Magazine. When we were done, I'll never forget how she pecked me on the cheek and told me how she'd always remember me because "Seeing these women like this, knowing there's at least ONE guy out there who likes it, makes me feel like she wasn't alone in the world."

Meantime, flash up about 15 years later (I spent my 30's continuing to collect the videos as a bachelor free & clear of any insecurities). I took a break from dating and relationships that started slowly (there was a blonde that I was close-knit with, who also happened to have the potential to develop a physique in the ANJA LANGER style that I just couldn't quit her), and lasted about 3 years. When I came out of it, I realized that I wanted to date and marry a (steroid and drug free) bodybuilding woman, and I mean someone who was or already had been one in her life before ME. I realized I couldn't "make" her into one, because then it's just molding someone to my liking. NO, I told myself, she HAD to be a woman who believed in the muscle and wanted this for herself. And I couldn't care what anyone around me thought, or "what it said about me," or any other nonsense. It was what I wanted, what I liked, and I wasn't getting any younger and what I wanted was WAY more important to me and to my future, and my emotional and mental health, than how I would be perceived or thought of ever could.

September 2018, I was 46, I met my wife thru a website called Fitness Singles. My 3 favorite parts of the story of the first few days of knowing one another go like this: 1- We had a yin-yang, Salt & Pepper moment when I told her I like women that are built the way Frank Frazetta drew them, and she asked "Is that like Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell?" 2-At the end of the phone call (I'd seen her photos) I told her "One last thing." WIFE: "What's that?" ME: "I like 'em big." There was freedom and power in that and there still is. 3-For the 2 days after our first coffee date. We'd texted and I sent her some sample photos of favorite competitors and she was saying things about not quite wanting to look like that, or I just like to lift or whatever. Then on Saturday, we had a phone call & she first started to tell me how she had friends she lifted with in high school in her native country (South Africa, which makes her wildly attractive to me), and "(She) liked it, and as the explanation progress, she was less uptight, talking in more detail, and built all the way up to "And feeling my muscles bulging." She'd been under the thumb of a controlling father and finally had been let out the gate, so after years of having it be repressed, the desire to lift weights, get strong, and be a strapping muscular bodybuilding woman (At present She's 5'8" and 200 pounds of curvaceous, feminine, still-evolving muscle) just flew out of her.

As you can imagine, we stayed together, and neither of us have looked back or thought twice about who and what were before we got to know one another. I'm DAMN PROUD of the fact that having the courage to go after exactly what I want got me EXACTLY what I want, and I'm grateful beyond words that I was accepted and embraced by the woman of my dreams when I finally had the guts to tell her all about it. Even more rewarding? The fact that she'd waited almost all her adult life for a guy who wanted that and liked her for it, someone she could shout it from the mountaintops with.

Finally I'm almost done. The bottom line, for me, is that I spent years wondering if it would just be something I fantasized and daydreamed about and had to keep a secret, etc etc. I wondered if I was tricking myself into thinking the exactly right woman for me was just in my imagination. I didn't want Barbie, or any of these bone-thin talentless stiffs we see in pop culture. I didn't want Skinny Minnie, or whatever. I wanted Wonder Woman. I wanted the She-Hulk. I wanted Big Barda. I wanted to be the guy who could seduce Ms Olympia. I wanted it all and I never thought I would get it, and then one day I woke up decided to go for it anyway, because anything else would be second best and I wasn't gonna settle. And then I got it, and I found out ALL OF IT WAS REAL, and when you reach that conclusion for yourself, it's ALL gonna be real for you too. Keep doing what you believe in and creating your own sense of purpose, and once you arrive at that conclusion of what you want for yourself, it's gonna be sweeter than your favorite dessert I promise.

And for anyone who read this all the way to the end, thanks for all your time and I hope I helped some of you guys out too. Women's bodybuilding kicks ass & it means as much to me as everything else that's ever been part of my life and I hope you guys all get there too. That's all I got for now and thanks again. IronScrap

Oct 29, 2024 - permalink

Great story Ironscrap! Thank-you.

Oct 30, 2024 - permalink

Just relax and do a bunch of sessions. Put yourself in places where you might meet fbbs: gyms, comps, CrossFit etc... some of those CrossFit girls are phenomenal. I've met and dated a bunch of fbbs and done loads of sessions too. Some are well known, but there are lots of fbbs who never compete or post, they just enjoy the look and feel. I've been lucky to meet one or two. If it's getting you down that much then there are also courses you can go on to learn how to talk to women without becoming a wobbly jelly. But they can be degrading to women so be careful. Good luck.

Oct 30, 2024 - permalink

Before I answered this, I read everything the other have said and it's great that men who love muscular, strong, and even dominant women are capable of sticking together this way and giving great advice. Now, my two cents...

It's a bit of a story (The only people who know this about me in this level of detail are my shrink and my wife), and won't tell you what to do, just what I've done. I'm 52 years old, and I've been attracted to female body builders since seeing one on a TV show called "Real People" when I was 8 years old. I collected magazines with just about any title, I taped the contests and shows run on ESPN and a show called MuscleSport USA and played them until the tapes would snap from over use. I was young and horny and had a threadbare love/sex life and all the while I was absorbing all these videos and photos and reading the interviews and having this encyclopedic knowledge that I kept bottled in for decades.

I didn't start admitting to my girlfriends that I liked bodybuilders until I was 40. I was SO sure that being into female muscle made me a deviant and a pervert, that I couldn't even say the word "bodybuilding" out loud in conversation. On the flipside, starting when I was 25, I WOULD admit to the girls I got involved with that I liked THEIR muscles, and even told a couple of them things along the line of thinking I'd still be attracted to them if they lifted weights and "got bigger." It took me until I was 29 years old to have the first girlfriend who I talked about it with, and even showed here a couple of issues from my collection of Muscle Elegance Magazine. When we were done, I'll never forget how she pecked me on the cheek and told me how she'd always remember me because "Seeing these women like this, knowing there's at least ONE guy out there who likes it, makes me feel like she wasn't alone in the world."

Meantime, flash up about 15 years later (I spent my 30's continuing to collect the videos as a bachelor free & clear of any insecurities). I took a break from dating and relationships that started slowly (there was a blonde that I was close-knit with, who also happened to have the potential to develop a physique in the ANJA LANGER style that I just couldn't quit her), and lasted about 3 years. When I came out of it, I realized that I wanted to date and marry a (steroid and drug free) bodybuilding woman, and I mean someone who was or already had been one in her life before ME. I realized I couldn't "make" her into one, because then it's just molding someone to my liking. NO, I told myself, she HAD to be a woman who believed in the muscle and wanted this for herself. And I couldn't care what anyone around me thought, or "what it said about me," or any other nonsense. It was what I wanted, what I liked, and I wasn't getting any younger and what I wanted was WAY more important to me and to my future, and my emotional and mental health, than how I would be perceived or thought of ever could.

September 2018, I was 46, I met my wife thru a website called Fitness Singles. My 3 favorite parts of the story of the first few days of knowing one another go like this: 1- We had a yin-yang, Salt & Pepper moment when I told her I like women that are built the way Frank Frazetta drew them, and she asked "Is that like Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell?" 2-At the end of the phone call (I'd seen her photos) I told her "One last thing." WIFE: "What's that?" ME: "I like 'em big." There was freedom and power in that and there still is. 3-For the 2 days after our first coffee date. We'd texted and I sent her some sample photos of favorite competitors and she was saying things about not quite wanting to look like that, or I just like to lift or whatever. Then on Saturday, we had a phone call & she first started to tell me how she had friends she lifted with in high school in her native country (South Africa, which makes her wildly attractive to me), and "(She) liked it, and as the explanation progress, she was less uptight, talking in more detail, and built all the way up to "And feeling my muscles bulging." She'd been under the thumb of a controlling father and finally had been let out the gate, so after years of having it be repressed, the desire to lift weights, get strong, and be a strapping muscular bodybuilding woman (At present She's 5'8" and 200 pounds of curvaceous, feminine, still-evolving muscle) just flew out of her.

As you can imagine, we stayed together, and neither of us have looked back or thought twice about who and what were before we got to know one another. I'm DAMN PROUD of the fact that having the courage to go after exactly what I want got me EXACTLY what I want, and I'm grateful beyond words that I was accepted and embraced by the woman of my dreams when I finally had the guts to tell her all about it. Even more rewarding? The fact that she'd waited almost all her adult life for a guy who wanted that and liked her for it, someone she could shout it from the mountaintops with.

Finally I'm almost done. The bottom line, for me, is that I spent years wondering if it would just be something I fantasized and daydreamed about and had to keep a secret, etc etc. I wondered if I was tricking myself into thinking the exactly right woman for me was just in my imagination. I didn't want Barbie, or any of these bone-thin talentless stiffs we see in pop culture. I didn't want Skinny Minnie, or whatever. I wanted Wonder Woman. I wanted the She-Hulk. I wanted Big Barda. I wanted to be the guy who could seduce Ms Olympia. I wanted it all and I never thought I would get it, and then one day I woke up decided to go for it anyway, because anything else would be second best and I wasn't gonna settle. And then I got it, and I found out ALL OF IT WAS REAL, and when you reach that conclusion for yourself, it's ALL gonna be real for you too. Keep doing what you believe in and creating your own sense of purpose, and once you arrive at that conclusion of what you want for yourself, it's gonna be sweeter than your favorite dessert I promise.

And for anyone who read this all the way to the end, thanks for all your time and I hope I helped some of you guys out too. Women's bodybuilding kicks ass & it means as much to me as everything else that's ever been part of my life and I hope you guys all get there too. That's all I got for now and thanks again. IronScrap

Great post i love your story!

Oct 31, 2024 - permalink

> Hi guys, writting this is quite hard for me, I am not used to open up about my feelings, but I think that sharing it with you is going to help me. > > To give you some context, right now I am 25 years old. I should not complain about my life because I am thankful to have a supportive family, good friends, and in general terms, a good life. But this thing of being attracted to muscular women is something that is not allowing me to progress in life. > > The regular girls do not catch my attention, it is like I am just attracted to girls with muscle. I wouldn't mind to be in a relationship with a regular girl, but I am not brave enough to open up to her and share my attraction, I feel that I am just going to be a wierdo. Also, this isn't allowing me to be 100% natural with the people around me. I feel that I am always hiding something, not being who I really am. > > On the other side, I've been able to meet a few girls that I am attracted to, but if it isn't through Instagram or a social media, I am not confident enough to approach for example a girl at the gym and start chatting with her. It is like my heart starts to beat so fast and I start to have negative thoughts about that she es going to find that I am nervous or something. I don't know. > > I don't want to be arrogant, but I am actually a handsome guy with a good physique and really open minded, but despite that it is like I am not confident enough to express myself to people around me. What scares me the most is to keep going through life without doing the things that I really like to do. > > I am fully open to hear your opinions. Also, sorry for my english, I am learning =) > > I have to say that it felt good writting it, if some of you are going through the same, it would be cool for you to express yourselves.

Before I answered this, I read everything the other have said and it's great that men who love muscular, strong, and even dominant women are capable of sticking together this way and giving great advice. Now, my two cents...

It's a bit of a story (The only people who know this about me in this level of detail are my shrink and my wife), and won't tell you what to do, just what I've done. I'm 52 years old, and I've been attracted to female body builders since seeing one on a TV show called "Real People" when I was 8 years old. I collected magazines with just about any title, I taped the contests and shows run on ESPN and a show called MuscleSport USA and played them until the tapes would snap from over use. I was young and horny and had a threadbare love/sex life and all the while I was absorbing all these videos and photos and reading the interviews and having this encyclopedic knowledge that I kept bottled in for decades.

I didn't start admitting to my girlfriends that I liked bodybuilders until I was 40. I was SO sure that being into female muscle made me a deviant and a pervert, that I couldn't even say the word "bodybuilding" out loud in conversation. On the flipside, starting when I was 25, I WOULD admit to the girls I got involved with that I liked THEIR muscles, and even told a couple of them things along the line of thinking I'd still be attracted to them if they lifted weights and "got bigger." It took me until I was 29 years old to have the first girlfriend who I talked about it with, and even showed here a couple of issues from my collection of Muscle Elegance Magazine. When we were done, I'll never forget how she pecked me on the cheek and told me how she'd always remember me because "Seeing these women like this, knowing there's at least ONE guy out there who likes it, makes me feel like she wasn't alone in the world."

Meantime, flash up about 15 years later (I spent my 30's continuing to collect the videos as a bachelor free & clear of any insecurities). I took a break from dating and relationships that started slowly (there was a blonde that I was close-knit with, who also happened to have the potential to develop a physique in the ANJA LANGER style that I just couldn't quit her), and lasted about 3 years. When I came out of it, I realized that I wanted to date and marry a (steroid and drug free) bodybuilding woman, and I mean someone who was or already had been one in her life before ME. I realized I couldn't "make" her into one, because then it's just molding someone to my liking. NO, I told myself, she HAD to be a woman who believed in the muscle and wanted this for herself. And I couldn't care what anyone around me thought, or "what it said about me," or any other nonsense. It was what I wanted, what I liked, and I wasn't getting any younger and what I wanted was WAY more important to me and to my future, and my emotional and mental health, than how I would be perceived or thought of ever could.

September 2018, I was 46, I met my wife thru a website called Fitness Singles. My 3 favorite parts of the story of the first few days of knowing one another go like this: 1- We had a yin-yang, Salt & Pepper moment when I told her I like women that are built the way Frank Frazetta drew them, and she asked "Is that like Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell?" 2-At the end of the phone call (I'd seen her photos) I told her "One last thing." WIFE: "What's that?" ME: "I like 'em big." There was freedom and power in that and there still is. 3-For the 2 days after our first coffee date. We'd texted and I sent her some sample photos of favorite competitors and she was saying things about not quite wanting to look like that, or I just like to lift or whatever. Then on Saturday, we had a phone call & she first started to tell me how she had friends she lifted with in high school in her native country (South Africa, which makes her wildly attractive to me), and "(She) liked it, and as the explanation progress, she was less uptight, talking in more detail, and built all the way up to "And feeling my muscles bulging." She'd been under the thumb of a controlling father and finally had been let out the gate, so after years of having it be repressed, the desire to lift weights, get strong, and be a strapping muscular bodybuilding woman (At present She's 5'8" and 200 pounds of curvaceous, feminine, still-evolving muscle) just flew out of her.

As you can imagine, we stayed together, and neither of us have looked back or thought twice about who and what were before we got to know one another. I'm DAMN PROUD of the fact that having the courage to go after exactly what I want got me EXACTLY what I want, and I'm grateful beyond words that I was accepted and embraced by the woman of my dreams when I finally had the guts to tell her all about it. Even more rewarding? The fact that she'd waited almost all her adult life for a guy who wanted that and liked her for it, someone she could shout it from the mountaintops with.

Finally I'm almost done. The bottom line, for me, is that I spent years wondering if it would just be something I fantasized and daydreamed about and had to keep a secret, etc etc. I wondered if I was tricking myself into thinking the exactly right woman for me was just in my imagination. I didn't want Barbie, or any of these bone-thin talentless stiffs we see in pop culture. I didn't want Skinny Minnie, or whatever. I wanted Wonder Woman. I wanted the She-Hulk. I wanted Big Barda. I wanted to be the guy who could seduce Ms Olympia. I wanted it all and I never thought I would get it, and then one day I woke up decided to go for it anyway, because anything else would be second best and I wasn't gonna settle. And then I got it, and I found out ALL OF IT WAS REAL, and when you reach that conclusion for yourself, it's ALL gonna be real for you too. Keep doing what you believe in and creating your own sense of purpose, and once you arrive at that conclusion of what you want for yourself, it's gonna be sweeter than your favorite dessert I promise.

And for anyone who read this all the way to the end, thanks for all your time and I hope I helped some of you guys out too. Women's bodybuilding kicks ass & it means as much to me as everything else that's ever been part of my life and I hope you guys all get there too. That's all I got for now and thanks again. IronScrap

Thank you so much for the post, I was hoping that someone with some experience in the field could give as some advice. One of my biggest fears is to regret in the future what I haven't done in the past. Time goes flying.

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