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My dream physique is that of a muscular woman

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

I was always skinny growing up. Narrow frame as a man. I think my physique goals have become more to become like one of the muscular women on here. Not freakishly large, but with my narrow frame i am looking for goal physiques.

I have decent arms, shoulders are somewhat narrow for a guy. 5Ft 10 185.

One of my favorites has been alexis lunar body. I am taller than her of course, but i want her arms, shoulders and nice abs. I already have a decent butt but always keep working on that.

Who would be some of your goal physiques? I know its a little unusual as a man to go for a female physique but i think its way more attainable and probably healthy for me than the freakishly large male bodybuilder physiques.

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

Ok i personally just want to get strong enough to open bottles and valves

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I'd love to have that upper body, with those powerful arms.

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

I'd love to have that upper body, with those powerful arms.

Yes definitely her arms are perfect..

I've been lifting for years. My arms are pretty good but my abs are bad. I think the combo of arms, abs and ass of women who lift is the best.. I really need to improve my nutrition to get my abs on point.

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

I was always skinny growing up. Narrow frame as a man. I think my physique goals have become more to become like one of the muscular women on here. Not freakishly large, but with my narrow frame i am looking for goal physiques.

I have decent arms, shoulders are somewhat narrow for a guy. 5Ft 10 185.

One of my favorites has been alexis lunar body. I am taller than her of course, but i want her arms, shoulders and nice abs. I already have a decent butt but always keep working on that.

Who would be some of your goal physiques? I know its a little unusual as a man to go for a female physique but i think its way more attainable and probably healthy for me than the freakishly large male bodybuilder physiques.

It's an interesting thread you started rick!!i think the same way but didn't have the courage to talk about it even among female muscle admirers,as i told few of them and they saw it as weird!! But i genuinely admire female bodybuilders so much that unlike other guys,who gets inspired from male bodybuilders and paste their pics on walls or collect their magazines, i want to achieve my physique like that or similar to that of a female bodybuilder

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

It's an interesting thread you started rick!!i think the same way but didn't have the courage to talk about it even among female muscle admirers,as i told few of them and they saw it as weird!! But i genuinely admire female bodybuilders so much that unlike other guys,who gets inspired from male bodybuilders and paste their pics on walls or collect their magazines, i want to achieve my physique like that or similar to that of a female bodybuilder

Yeah honestly i think its a much more achievable physique for alot of us but still takes alot of hard work and dedication. Some of the women at my Crossfit gym are amazing for example. I'm not sure Crossfit has produced such great results for me, my best results seemed to be lower volume, sets to failure in a controlled manner, maybe high intensity for a working set or two but not tons..

Alas i often sabotaged myself with diet.

Dec 10, 2023 - edited Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

It's an interesting thread you started rick!!i think the same way but didn't have the courage to talk about it even among female muscle admirers,as i told few of them and they saw it as weird!! But i genuinely admire female bodybuilders so much that unlike other guys,who gets inspired from male bodybuilders and paste their pics on walls or collect their magazines, i want to achieve my physique like that or similar to that of a female bodybuilder.

I want to thank RickFree so much for making this thread, and if you don't mind, I want to share my story with you. I've had girlfriends with great muscles that I was able to share this with, and my wife is an aspiring bodybuilder who knows what I'm into and what I like about this scene, but thanks to RickFree creating this thread and ESPECIALLY after reading what Marshmallow95 has to say, I think I've found a place where I can finally talk with other guys about EXACTLY what women's bodybuilding means to me. This is the first time I've EVER talked or written about this with other guys and I'm actually really excited an enthusiastic about it. To start, I'm 51 years old, and I've been into women's bodybuilding from the first time I saw one on a show called "Real People" when I was 8 years old. I always stopped to watch it when there was a contest or news piece about them on TV, but there was no maturity behind it, just hormones: it gave me a woody almost on sight, and the same thing would happen every time I saw any footage or pictures of a woman with any kind of muscle on her body. I've been kinda lucky to have seen the evolution of the scene, from women like Rachel McClish & Carla Dunlap 40 years ago, all the way through to modern women like Iris Kyle & Andrea Shaw; I collected magazines like Women's Physique World (which I've been stockpiling again thanks to eBay), Muscle Elegance, and Female Bodybuilding. I honestly believe that these female bodybuilders have been some of the most beautiful and attractive celebrity/pop culture women of the last 40 years; I never said it out loud back then, but I've never just wanted to have sex with female bodybuilders: I always hoped that one day I would be in an exclusive relationship with one. I think they're amazing and, looking back, I honestly don't think I would've been happy if I'd married a woman who wanted nothing to do with it. Over the years, I matured into being as much a fan with rooting interest in the competitions as I was originally a horny 14-year-old, neaking into the magazine section of CVS to sneak a peek at the new issue of FLEX to get my latest Cory Everson fix. Like you guys, these women have become influential to me. They're role models and that includes seeing some of these videos and photos and wanting to have the muscular qualities that they do. After decades of following this sport, I've definitely seen women that have things in common with the men, in terms of muscle mass, proportions, conditioning, and even similar body types. I've seen women with muscle structure and basic frames that are like mine, and physiques that are along the lines of my own goals with weight training and development. And if you look closely at the posing routines in both men and women's contests, there poses that are universal to both. Female bodybuilding has actually helped me become more secure in my own sexuality and the fact that I'm a man, and one of the biggest motivations for me to lift and develop my own body is because I want to be on the same level as the women I admire, and I want them to be impressed with me. As I said before, I'm 51 years old; I met my wife 5 years ago, when we were both in our 40's. She's an aspiring bodybuilder in her own right, and one of the reasons she agreed to keep seeing me is BECAUSE I like that. Anyway, I've said a lot in this post, and don't want to stretch this out any longer than I have to. If anyone here wants to chat about this on this thread, or even in the chats, I'm open to it. I'm sorry I took it off the topic a bit, but I plan on sharing a lot more on here. This is a whole other side of being interested in this website, as well as the female bodybuilding scene overall; I feel like I belong here, and I hope we all can keep talking about this stuff in this way. Thanks for your time everyone. P.S. My shoulders tend to get broader and thicker when I lift heavy, and a lot of Latin/South American women have that. I really dig how hard those women train.

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

Yeah honestly i think its a much more achievable physique for alot of us but still takes alot of hard work and dedication. Some of the women at my Crossfit gym are amazing for example. I'm not sure Crossfit has produced such great results for me, my best results seemed to be lower volume, sets to failure in a controlled manner, maybe high intensity for a working set or two but not tons..

Alas i often sabotaged myself with diet.

Agreed, and honestly,even though it's just the beginning, female muscularity have evolved so much that even most men would struggle to achieve it,like for example, even figure division girls nowadays are built like tanks, and about wellness girls, it's a crazy journey to achieve lower body like theirs

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

I want to thank RickFree so much for making this thread, and if you don't mind, I want to share my story with you. I've had girlfriends with great muscles that I was able to share this with, and my wife is an aspiring bodybuilder who knows what I'm into and what I like about this scene, but thanks to RickFree creating this thread and ESPECIALLY after reading what Marshmallow95 has to say, I think I've found a place where I can finally talk with other guys about EXACTLY what women's bodybuilding means to me. This is the first time I've EVER talked or written about this with other guys and I'm actually really excited an enthusiastic about it. To start, I'm 51 years old, and I've been into women's bodybuilding from the first time I saw one on a show called "Real People" when I was 8 years old. I always stopped to watch it when there was a contest or news piece about them on TV, but there was no maturity behind it, just hormones: it gave me a woody almost on sight, and the same thing would happen every time I saw any footage or pictures of a woman with any kind of muscle on her body. I've been kinda lucky to have seen the evolution of the scene, from women like Rachel McClish & Carla Dunlap 40 years ago, all the way through to modern women like Iris Kyle & Andrea Shaw; I collected magazines like Women's Physique World (which I've been stockpiling again thanks to eBay), Muscle Elegance, and Female Bodybuilding. I honestly believe that these female bodybuilders have been some of the most beautiful and attractive celebrity/pop culture women of the last 40 years; I never said it out loud back then, but I've never just wanted to have sex with female bodybuilders: I always hoped that one day I would be in an exclusive relationship with one. I think they're amazing and, looking back, I honestly don't think I would've been happy if I'd married a woman who wanted nothing to do with it. Over the years, I matured into being as much a fan with rooting interest in the competitions as I was originally a horny 14-year-old, neaking into the magazine section of CVS to sneak a peek at the new issue of FLEX to get my latest Cory Everson fix. Like you guys, these women have become influential to me. They're role models and that includes seeing some of these videos and photos and wanting to have the muscular qualities that they do. After decades of following this sport, I've definitely seen women that have things in common with the men, in terms of muscle mass, proportions, conditioning, and even similar body types. I've seen women with muscle structure and basic frames that are like mine, and physiques that are along the lines of my own goals with weight training and development. And if you look closely at the posing routines in both men and women's contests, there poses that are universal to both. Female bodybuilding has actually helped me become more secure in my own sexuality and the fact that I'm a man, and one of the biggest motivations for me to lift and develop my own body is because I want to be on the same level as the women I admire, and I want them to be impressed with me. As I said before, I'm 51 years old; I met my wife 5 years ago, when we were both in our 40's. She's an aspiring bodybuilder in her own right, and one of the reasons she agreed to keep seeing me is BECAUSE I like that. Anyway, I've said a lot in this post, and don't want to stretch this out any longer than I have to. If anyone here wants to chat about this on this thread, or even in the chats, I'm open to it. I'm sorry I took it off the topic a bit, but I plan on sharing a lot more on here. This is a whole other side of being interested in this website, as well as the female bodybuilding scene overall; I feel like I belong here, and I hope we all can keep talking about this stuff in this way. Thanks for your time everyone. P.S. My shoulders tend to get broader and thicker when I lift heavy, and a lot of Latin/South American women have that. I really dig how hard those women train.

You are absolutely right man!! nothing wrong in it!! Like i said... I was too worried to talk about this as people thought like I want to be feminine and all that.I am only 28 years old, and hence undoubtedly still don't know much about female bodybuilding world, but i have been an admirer of Muscular women since i was 13. First it's started as natural hormonal attraction as they are undisputedly hot. But as years passed by, I understood a lot. And one thing i observed that female muscularity irrespective of what division it is or whether it is CrossFit, have evolved so much that the typical conservative statement that "women can't get Muscular or hugely muscular as men" doesn't make much sense today!! Like i said above, female muscularity has evolved incredibly!! Nowadays figure division girls no matter their age, get as muscular as classic physique division male bodybuilders. Seeing this evolution made me decide that why i should see a male bodybuilder as my ideal physique goal, if most men today can't reach the level of muscular women!!hence, seeing your dream goal of having a muscular woman's physique makes more sense!!

Dec 10, 2023 - permalink

Yes, while reading this i had a flashback about watching GLOW as a young teenager. It felt kind of different for me, but i loved seeing these physically dominant women.

My wife has some masculine features. Broader shoulders from swimming and i definitely encouraged her to start lifting weights. She has more of a mans personality at times too. I am not sure what causes it all but its interesting for sure.

I think i'm most jealous of the flat midsections of women bodybuilders. They obviously store fat in a different manner than most men typically.

I've admitted to some people that i like women track athletes, the sprinters with muscle in particular. Some men don't like that at all. I think its a great example of what a woman can do and i suppose most women i've been with liked weight training once i introduced them to it.

Dec 12, 2023 - permalink

Hey, fellas, please don't let this thread die. I know it's only been in play for a weekend, but it felt good to be "with my people" on this and it should continue. P.S. anyone here every notice, no matter how womanly a female bodybuilder is, when they hit a strong back double biceps pose, the muscles look like a man's back? I've been noticing this a lot lately, especially in the contest footage from the 90's - thru -2000's and it's really impressive to me

Dec 12, 2023 - permalink

Hey, fellas, please don't let this thread die. I know it's only been in play for a weekend, but it felt good to be "with my people" on this and it should continue. P.S. anyone here every notice, no matter how womanly a female bodybuilder is, when they hit a strong back double biceps pose, the muscles look like a man's back? I've been noticing this a lot lately, especially in the contest footage from the 90's - thru -2000's and it's really impressive to me

Yes, that's what I love, when female bodybuilders start showing off their muscles, inevitably several men will be jealous and as well as envious of their muscularity

Dec 12, 2023 - permalink

I was always skinny growing up. Narrow frame as a man. I think my physique goals have become more to become like one of the muscular women on here. Not freakishly large, but with my narrow frame i am looking for goal physiques.

I have decent arms, shoulders are somewhat narrow for a guy. 5Ft 10 185.

One of my favorites has been alexis lunar body. I am taller than her of course, but i want her arms, shoulders and nice abs. I already have a decent butt but always keep working on that.

Who would be some of your goal physiques? I know its a little unusual as a man to go for a female physique but i think its way more attainable and probably healthy for me than the freakishly large male bodybuilder physiques.

So instead of having a goal of a man's physiques, you'd rather a woman? Wow.

Dec 12, 2023 - permalink

So instead of having a goal of a man's physiques, you'd rather a woman? Wow.

as someone who goes to the gym a lot, and is inspired by several bodybuilders, especially women, what is wrong with by being inspired by a womens physique?

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

I think i need to look at the categories of womens physique. I am not sure what the ideal physique is for me yet, but given several examples, i think i can find some good targets for me.

I remember a sprinter that i really admire also. I'll have to take a look back at her instagram and will post it here.

So many great women to find inspiration from.

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

I think i need to look at the categories of womens physique. I am not sure what the ideal physique is for me yet, but given several examples, i think i can find some good targets for me.

I remember a sprinter that i really admire also. I'll have to take a look back at her instagram and will post it here.

So many great women to find inspiration from.

Same here,need to delve a bit myself too for finding my ideal physique

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

Sincere question, and I apologize if this is a too curt: have you thought about transitioning?

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

I think i need to look at the categories of womens physique. I am not sure what the ideal physique is for me yet, but given several examples, i think i can find some good targets for me.

I remember a sprinter that i really admire also. I'll have to take a look back at her instagram and will post it here.

So many great women to find inspiration from.

Same here,need to delve a bit myself too for finding my ideal physique

I hadn't thought of that from the point of view of my entire body; it's usually body parts from one or the other for me. For instance, in bodybuilding, I really like Julia Fory's shoulders, traps and back. Especially in off season shape. I she's got great lines and thickness.

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

So instead of having a goal of a man's physiques, you'd rather a woman? Wow.

Perhaps because I am so strange, I don't think it's strange at all. I think of the number of girls I knew a long time ago who wanted to be "strong like Superman" or to be able to do the things Spider-man could do. Female comic heroes existed, but other than Wonder Woman, the guys got all the attention and a lot of girls wanted in on the action.

When it comes to physiques, I always thought Anja Langer and Lenda Murray had unbelievable frames which were the envy of many many would-be bodybuilders, male or female. In recent times, there are active male bodybuilders, huge motherfuckers with proverbial physiques to die for who have publicly said "I wish I had Iris Kyle's back". Maybe I'll get canceled again because it's misogynist or chauvinist to consider that statement a compliment, but I think it's pretty high praise.

And I think it's cool that a man can admire and look to a woman for inspiration of any kind and without any additional qualifiers.

Dec 13, 2023 - permalink

Thanks all. One of the track athletes i thought of was Dafne Schippers. I remember back in 2016 mentioning her to a co-worker who thought that she was too muscular. She is obviously athletic but nowhere close to as muscular as female bodybuilders.

My account is too new to post links but look at her 2016 London games links.

I guess there are a variety of female physiques to aspire for. Of course the glutes of sprinters are amazing, sexy and functional. Many women heptathletes also possess enviable physiques.

Dec 14, 2023 - permalink

Sincere question, and I apologize if this is a too curt: have you thought about transitioning?

Fair question. It's an interesting thought for sure, and i know gender and sexuality and things can be connected but separate but here is my thoughts.

I've had a bit of an androgynous body and i know that i've also had attraction to both sexes at least in terms of physiques. I generally don't find myself attracted to men until i see them shirtless. So not into men's faces.

How would that effect me wanting to be more feminine or transitioning? In some respects i have a masculine face, and i don't think it would ever look right as a womans per se

Now having breasts, the abs of a woman and the posterior would definitely appeal to me.

I am very open minded almost the point of identifying as pansexual or bisexual at times, but again thats sexuality and not gender per se.

I worked with a trans man. For the longest time i just thought he was an effeminate man. But indeed he was a woman at birth and then transitioned in college. He married a woman and only dates women. I've often thought that his dating pool would have almost been easier for meeting women if he had stayed a woman, but i applaud him for doing what he feels is how he identifies with.

I think since my primary attraction is to women, its much harder for me to imagine myself as a trans woman and attracting more women.

Decoupling my attraction for the gender side, i have experimented with crossdressing and enjoy it. I obviously enjoy having a smooth hairless body but many bodybuilders like me shave also. The fact that i like womens workout clothes is definitely true but they generally have nicer workout clothes than men anyways.

Finally i have a bit of body dysmorphia at times. Sometimes i am feeling very masculine and just want to be a muscular male and other times i want to be feminine. For me its almost like i have my own monthly cycle where i change a bit in who i want to be.

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I wanna commend you for being so conscious of your relationship with your gender and sexuality and I appreciate the openness.

For the sake of transparency I should acknowledge I'm a trans woman. Among open trans people, there's kind of a running bit that goes something like, "doesn't everybody wish they had breasts/skin like a woman/what have you," with the answer being: no, just people who aren't cis

I wanna stress that however you feel comfortable understanding and presenting yourself with regard to your gender and sexuality is all that matters, but I also wanna stress that it's never too late to transition - your appearance and relationships are never too far gone for a transition to be worthwhile, and oftentimes people realign their priority once they're comfortably living themselves and on hormones

I don't mean this to shame you or browbeat you in any way but wanting breasts and a feminine rear are not cis thoughts and CAN be achieved on hormones. If you understand yourself as kind of fluid - masculine sometimes and feminine other times - then I'm happy you've come to know yourself, but I wanna say person to person if you've got the nagging sense in the back of your mind that you might be a woman, there's no reason to deny it

Dec 15, 2023 - permalink

Sincere question, and I apologize if this is a too curt: have you thought about transitioning?

I have to confess, I flinched at this at first. There's no accounting for tone of voice or intent with online/text/chat stuff so I was suspect. Then RickFree had the guts to answer this honestly PLUS Bondboi took that honesty another level. My respect to you both. In turn, I feel like I've found a platform where I can take who I am out in the open somewhat, and here I am: To start, I want to make it clear I have no desire or interest in transitioning. i've never wondered about my gender. On the flipside, I'm the sort of personal who's intensely introspective and does a lot of self-re-evaluation on a regular basis. In turn, about 12-13 years ago, I've had some times in my life where I've felt the need to examine, question and even debate my own sexuality.

At first I was a bit weirded out by it, but figured it's better to tell myself the truth, which is that I was somewhere between Questioning and Bi-Curious; eventually it was Bi-Curious, and now, I'd say for the better part of the last 5-to-6 years I'm flat-out bisexual. I've been 100% open about this with my wife and stepdaugher. My stepdaughter is Gay/Bi herself, and getting to know her has actually been a HUGE factor in figuring out and completely embracing these things within myself. and it's just made the bonds between us stronger. The only other person who knows about this is my therapist.

People who study this stuff always talk about how men have "feminine sides," and I'm not afraid to say that mine is pretty profound. Although I've never wanted to be a woman or become one, but I've had emotional experiences and sensations that I can only describe as feminine; before I met my wife (who thinks it's great that I can articulate these feelings), the relationship I was in that lasted longest and was most close-knit was where I was able to talk about this with no hangups or fear of judgement.

Since this thread is based on being influenced by female muscularity, and wanting muscles the way a woman has them, I'll try to stick to that as much as I can. Most of my favorite/role model athletes are from North American sports (Joe Montana, Wayne Gretzky, Bernie Williams (GO YANKEES!!), Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, etc). Very few of them have come from men's bodybuilding divisions (whovever on this thread wants to get into this can ask me about this sometime), but I'll admit that I think a few of them are really hot (I've been really into Ronnie Coleman lately, for instance. It's not just that he was so huge, but his muscles are actually really shapely and voluptuous). On the flipside, a lot of the women on this GWN site are my heroes and role models in the gym as much as they're women I would want to date/sex/marry. They're are as much something I aspire to be as they are women who arouse me and hold my attention.

Anyway, as I said when I first joined this thread, I feel like I've found my people, and that I belong here, and I hope to talk more about this with everyone. Also, I admit that I still find many areas of it to be unusual but I have no moral or ethical hangups, judgements, opposition, or whatever other negativity towards trans/questioning/gay/non-binary/non-cis people, and want to communicate with you all on this thread no matter who your are or what you want to be. I apologize if I didn't word this well enough, but I'm just trying to say that I'm not predjudiced towards it.

Let me try to finish by saying again I really respect you both for being open about this stuff, and felt like being honest about myself here was doing the right thing. I hope we can discuss a lot more things in this thread in the future.

Dec 16, 2023 - permalink

When i met my wife, before we even started dating i told her i was bisexual. That was based on me knowing i'm not 100% straight. However, at the time i didn't really know that it was kind of more complicated than that overall.

The fact that i had a super high libido led me to experiment, sometimes with men. Which surprise surprise can feel as good as sex with women. However at that time i suppose i wasn't sure of the feminine feelings i had at times, which got stronger over the years.

While i mostly prefer women, i sometimes get in these periods where i want to feel more feminine. So at those times i tend to shave my legs more, wear some of the womens items i have etc.

Then other times i feel really masculine. I think a big thing is i am just a bit androgynous overall.

I do know that at times it made me feel like my wife deserved a more masculine man, which led to my hotwife fantasies etc. There is alot behind all that.

In any event the last few years my relationship with her has really deteriorated. And i suppose i have consider more options.

The thought of transitioning might be too far for me, but i wonder if a low dose of hormones would produce some effect while preserving my androgny.

I'd still like to be able to take my shirt off at the beach.. quite frankly i don't know why woman cant but thats our society and community values in the US apparently.

Dec 16, 2023 - permalink

I don't even get what so weird about it, most of the girls on here have huge muscular arms, 6 packs, and pecs, that is basically what most men want when they go to the gym. I don't want to be someone who say's these women look like men but a man wanting a physique like that doesn't mean they are trying to look like a woman. It would be different if a man had a goal of getting a bigger ass or trying to get a skinny as possible, then you could say he's trying to get a womans physique, but most of the women on here have physiques that would be ideal for a man.

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