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Let's say there were one girl who is genuinely natty but is mistaken to be on steroids. Who would that be?

Feb 12, 2024 - permalink

Yep, and just because a federation says it's tested doesn't mean they actually do testing. One of the former Australian power lifting federations said they were a tested federation, but apparently only tested a handful of athletes before it folded. Same with a local bodybuilding comp, was promoted as a natural comp. No one was ever tested, and I know at least half a dozen competitors were all using PEDs.

Feb 15, 2024 - permalink

I genuinely think Liriel (liri_martinss) is natty, but some accuse her of being on roids.

May 08, 2024 - permalink
May 08, 2024 - permalink

I genuinely think Liriel (liri_martinss) is natty, but some accuse her of being on roids.

I wouldn't accuse her. I'll just state the obvious that she's been on gear. There is no judgement in that statement, hence no accusation. Would you judge her if you knew she was on gear?

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May 09, 2024 - permalink

> 101% it's gotta be Vicky Caruso... She's MASSIVE, shredded and (I actually believe) completely natural. Definitely looks like gear though... PS, one of the most underrated asses on this site in my opinion. >

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She's as natural as Amazonka.

She clearly has Dunnigan-type Lipodystrophy. I've witnessed this anomaly in person. You would swear girls that have it are on gear, but they hold MASSIVE amounts of muscle tissue, even untrained. There was a homeless woman that used to come into the coffee shop I worked in that had it. She had a big belly, but shredded legs, massive calves and arm veins like you wouldn't believe.

May 09, 2024 - permalink

Veronica Valentyne who is super lean and relatively small, but also rock solid. Swears she just works very hard and once challenged a doctor who asked her about it to test her. Considering how much both in weight training and aerobics she does, I believe her.

May 10, 2024 - permalink

Serena Williams

May 10, 2024 - permalink

I love this thread.

May 10, 2024 - permalink

Just want to check in and post that many girls who might appear natty in certain photos... have a long legacy of doing gear. Men too.

I really admire Chelsea Dion a lot. She's a cool person, she's a great athlete, and she's one of the few women who can really own their offseason. Lots of BB's will only post photos when they're ripped and huge, but she's out here being curvy and healthy when she's off cycle. We really need to normalize this more.

Now someone who doesn't know Chelsea might look at this photo and think "natty." And they're partially right.. she probably is literally natty at the time of that photo. Clearly muscular and strong but high BF% and curvy and feminine.

Thing is though.. she's done many years of cycles to get to this level of mass. Building muscle nuclei is a lot harder than maintaining it. And it's hard AF without testosterone. A woman which a past of heavy PED use will be far stronger and bigger than a lifetime natty, even if their current hormone profiles are exactly the same.

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