It probably doesn't matter. So long as we're not ranking anyone based on their race. Some folks are just naturally more attracted to one race or another. There's not much you can do about it and it shouldn't be shamed or dismissed. But I guess I'm lucky as I appreciate all races equally! The more muscle and definition the better. 😁👍
Isn't it a thing with race that one color decided that they where superior to the others and treated them like sh*t and that's for lots of people part of the load it still bears?
Racial separation came to mind seeing the Black, Asian threads and now black, white. green, Asian etc tags. On the other hand could it be more about sexual preference in this case? So much more neutral? Just like muscle, no muscle, blond, black or red hair? Big calves or biceps ?
For me personalty: I don't have a need for this tag and can imagine that it can be hurtful to or of use for others
I’m sorry but as some one who isn’t white and has a preference for POCs the thought of having to search for women again on this site only by name instead of race is completely overwhelming, there’s enough info on these girls for us to be able to figure out what they identify as this is definitely a none issue.
To add: we could maybe solve the second problem by replacing the "white" tag with "white american". This would both address the issue of it applying to so many models as to be useless, as well as using it to apply to Europeans who don't think of themselves as "white".
You touch on one of the core problems here, which is you don't know how most people think of themselves. More often than not, a racial designation is a category imposed by others, and more often than not, for less than benign reasons. Who makes these decisions here?
In my opinion, having racial, religious, and sexual designations that are matters of personal identity as tags here is way outside of what this site is designed to do. I found it interesting that some ambitious user has categorically tagged models as black or white before tags for "bodybuilder" or "figure/fitness" have been added. This seems like a drastically misplaced priority.
Why do people think tags 'blonde' and 'red hair' are OK, but 'white skin' and 'dark skin' are not? Is there any technical difference between hair color and skin color?
This might just be the dumbest comment I’ve read on this site
Why do people think tags 'blonde' and 'red hair' are OK, but 'white skin' and 'dark skin' are not? Is there any technical difference between hair color and skin color?
Edit: if someone says they only like white women or don't like black women is racial discrimination, then if a heterosexual person says they only like women or don't like men, is that sex discrimination?
Sorry, but "white American" adds to the problem, IMHO. I think just removing the race tag is the appropriate way to go. After all, take off the top layer of skin and we're all pink on the inside.
None of the traditional bodybuilding poses uses the word "flex," (such as "most muscular" or "front double biceps") but the tags here prob need to have it.
This pic has reached an high score in few days, so I wonder why it was deleted since people enjoy it. You can see that a muscled chest and also traps, so I think there’s enough of muscles but maybe I’m wrong
Food for thought: maybe the true reason for a lack of women on this site is a lack of self esteem of lots of you guys here. A sort of collective neurosis within the selfacclaimed schmoe-nation. The logic behind it is: we are a bunch of unworthy guys, and the last ressort for any kind of sexual arousal are those kind of women who live on the edge of society. Which, in return, confirms the reason, why we poor fellas remain amongst ourselves. I think, in England they call that sort of thing a self fullfilling prophecy.
I for mine feel pretty comfortable with what I am doing, and also being surrounded by women with whatever I am doing, but I get the feeling the whole thread is somewhat tailored to find out what schmoe nation is thinking, which makes it consequently a fantasy thread anyway. So what way to go now: A) boost the self confidence - which I would recommend a couple of guys here anyway, independent from their sexual preference, or B) increase the obsession to blow some cover. In that case, biometric identification combined with access to the central agency databases might be useful. Who knows what we may find out there who is really using this site: Kamala Harris on the search for strength and inspoiration, Big Foot on the search for a woman who doesnt break in his big hairy hands. Or maybe even lesbians, who enjoy the sight of muscular women. Or C) ignore all of the above, delete it, and hold on to that bizarre fantasy world - which gives plenty of room to endlessly accuse other people, becuase we have nothing better to do with our time.
To add: we could maybe solve the second problem by replacing the "white" tag with "white american". This would both address the issue of it applying to so many models as to be useless, as well as using it to apply to Europeans who don't think of themselves as "white".
First: Tagging women by race is offensive. I really don't see the problem here, or care about it a whole lot. I think there's already a lot of reasons someone could visit here and be offended (mostly related to feeling sexualized, which is a complaint I've heard in some takedown requests), and compared to all that, this is just a blip on the radar. That said, if we do think this is likely to result in more takedowns, but it is useful to the community, the thing to do would be to make model tags visible to logged in users only, same as what we did with the image comments.
Second: Some race tags (such as "white") are not useful. I agree. But I don't think this is a race thing; it's true for any tag that applies to a very large portion of the images on the site. Kind of like "delts/shoulders", currently the most popular tag. It's so generic (since it can include any pic that shows some amount of shoulder) as to be useless.
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thought this turn of events using tags is a bit strange and presumptuous. Labeling someone’s race/ethnicity is putting a very quick judgment on top of a complex issue involving someone’s sense of identity. In addition to that, it can combine with nationality in ways that are not at all what they might look like. (Meaning, ethnicity and nationality don’t always follow one another).
Log in |
Register
It probably doesn't matter. So long as we're not ranking anyone based on their race. Some folks are just naturally more attracted to one race or another. There's not much you can do about it and it shouldn't be shamed or dismissed. But I guess I'm lucky as I appreciate all races equally! The more muscle and definition the better. 😁👍
Isn't it a thing with race that one color decided that they where superior to the others and treated them like sh*t and that's for lots of people part of the load it still bears? Racial separation came to mind seeing the Black, Asian threads and now black, white. green, Asian etc tags. On the other hand could it be more about sexual preference in this case? So much more neutral? Just like muscle, no muscle, blond, black or red hair? Big calves or biceps ?
For me personalty: I don't have a need for this tag and can imagine that it can be hurtful to or of use for others
I raised the 'white' tag issue earlier today in another thread. Glad to see so many people on here find it as dumb and/or offensive as I do.
I’m sorry but as some one who isn’t white and has a preference for POCs the thought of having to search for women again on this site only by name instead of race is completely overwhelming, there’s enough info on these girls for us to be able to figure out what they identify as this is definitely a none issue.
You touch on one of the core problems here, which is you don't know how most people think of themselves. More often than not, a racial designation is a category imposed by others, and more often than not, for less than benign reasons. Who makes these decisions here?
In my opinion, having racial, religious, and sexual designations that are matters of personal identity as tags here is way outside of what this site is designed to do. I found it interesting that some ambitious user has categorically tagged models as black or white before tags for "bodybuilder" or "figure/fitness" have been added. This seems like a drastically misplaced priority.
I mean it's okay in porn. Just think about it.
This might just be the dumbest comment I’ve read on this site
Now she has finally left here. It happened very quickly.
Why do people think tags 'blonde' and 'red hair' are OK, but 'white skin' and 'dark skin' are not? Is there any technical difference between hair color and skin color?
Edit: if someone says they only like white women or don't like black women is racial discrimination, then if a heterosexual person says they only like women or don't like men, is that sex discrimination?
This is an issue where only Chainer can make the change. As a moderator, when I attempt the merge it gives me:
"Merge/rename for tags with over 2,500 images is not supported."
I sent him a message.
Sorry, but "white American" adds to the problem, IMHO. I think just removing the race tag is the appropriate way to go. After all, take off the top layer of skin and we're all pink on the inside.
Interesting, this is what happens when I try to correct the spelling on the name-level tag:
Suggest merging: "barefoot" into "bare feet".
Suggest combining "front double biceps" and "double biceps flex" into a new "front double biceps flex" tag.
None of the traditional bodybuilding poses uses the word "flex," (such as "most muscular" or "front double biceps") but the tags here prob need to have it.
She's gone now.
This pic has reached an high score in few days, so I wonder why it was deleted since people enjoy it. You can see that a muscled chest and also traps, so I think there’s enough of muscles but maybe I’m wrong
😂😂😂
Food for thought: maybe the true reason for a lack of women on this site is a lack of self esteem of lots of you guys here. A sort of collective neurosis within the selfacclaimed schmoe-nation. The logic behind it is: we are a bunch of unworthy guys, and the last ressort for any kind of sexual arousal are those kind of women who live on the edge of society. Which, in return, confirms the reason, why we poor fellas remain amongst ourselves. I think, in England they call that sort of thing a self fullfilling prophecy.
I for mine feel pretty comfortable with what I am doing, and also being surrounded by women with whatever I am doing, but I get the feeling the whole thread is somewhat tailored to find out what schmoe nation is thinking, which makes it consequently a fantasy thread anyway. So what way to go now: A) boost the self confidence - which I would recommend a couple of guys here anyway, independent from their sexual preference, or B) increase the obsession to blow some cover. In that case, biometric identification combined with access to the central agency databases might be useful. Who knows what we may find out there who is really using this site: Kamala Harris on the search for strength and inspoiration, Big Foot on the search for a woman who doesnt break in his big hairy hands. Or maybe even lesbians, who enjoy the sight of muscular women. Or C) ignore all of the above, delete it, and hold on to that bizarre fantasy world - which gives plenty of room to endlessly accuse other people, becuase we have nothing better to do with our time.
To add: we could maybe solve the second problem by replacing the "white" tag with "white american". This would both address the issue of it applying to so many models as to be useless, as well as using it to apply to Europeans who don't think of themselves as "white".
There are two different points being made here:
First: Tagging women by race is offensive. I really don't see the problem here, or care about it a whole lot. I think there's already a lot of reasons someone could visit here and be offended (mostly related to feeling sexualized, which is a complaint I've heard in some takedown requests), and compared to all that, this is just a blip on the radar. That said, if we do think this is likely to result in more takedowns, but it is useful to the community, the thing to do would be to make model tags visible to logged in users only, same as what we did with the image comments.
Second: Some race tags (such as "white") are not useful. I agree. But I don't think this is a race thing; it's true for any tag that applies to a very large portion of the images on the site. Kind of like "delts/shoulders", currently the most popular tag. It's so generic (since it can include any pic that shows some amount of shoulder) as to be useless.
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/...
shrug
This chick had pages and pages of them. Now she's got 41 pics left. ???
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thought this turn of events using tags is a bit strange and presumptuous. Labeling someone’s race/ethnicity is putting a very quick judgment on top of a complex issue involving someone’s sense of identity. In addition to that, it can combine with nationality in ways that are not at all what they might look like. (Meaning, ethnicity and nationality don’t always follow one another).