Here are some things that happened in the last four years, you tell me if they tilt to fascist/authoritarian or not:
Mandating an experimental injection on your citizens while threatening loss of livelihood, including firing military members who are trying to serve your country.
Openly coming out against free speech (first amendment).
Advocating for a mandatory gun buyback (second amendment).
Using unprecedented lawfare to go after and IMPRISON political opponents. And not just Trump, but Bannon, Navarro, Page, Flynn, Popadopalus.
Using lawfare to KEEP opponents off of ballots in certain states (RFK and Trump AND Stein)
And here's the worst one: importing millions of new and unvetted voters to acquire political power via amnesty (the top priority of Kamala's immigration policy).
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> Putin spanked Biden for four years and endorsed Kamala.
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> The great thing about the modern era is you can actually look up the story and see the video for yourself. So when they lie about the "bloodbath hoax" or the "fine people on both sides hoax" or the "he wants to shoot Liz Cheney hoax", you can literally look up the video for yourself and see the ACTUAL video and how they were lying. Too many people are waking up as mainstream media dies.
Oh yes....Putin is one smart psychopath. He even has you fooled Binary. What Putin says (and we can all watch video's till the cows come home) is not at all what the Kremlin is generating on the WWW because slick propaganda can never be brought back to the generator agents mainly because the average brain taking such stuff in has no interest in verifying things properly.
This so-called "great thing about the Modern Era" is nothing more than AI bots pushing items in your face. This is the anti-thesis of Personal Choice and, subsequently, Critical Thinking. This all reminds me of Fahrenheit 451. But the author of the fiction had no idea how far things would go and so soon.
We are currently experiencing the Dawn of the Non-Information Age and this is what Marshal McCluhan meant by "The Medium is the Message".
But you do make several good points...unfortunately, because you ask us to rely upon the Medium, that causes me pause.
Speaking as a Californian, ever since Trump won in 2016, it's felt like a real "Misinformation Age" with so-called liberal and progressive sources discarding impartiality and going hard with one-sided criticism and misleading if not outright lying media to the masses.
That's at least eight years' worth of yellow journalism and propaganda that most Americans were able to see through to elect the better candidate, one chosen by his party rather than ushered into the presidential nomination without contest (and they called Trump the fascist).
I am sorry Cgsweat, but I am just saying what everyone on the planet is calling Trump...merely just relaying the message (the evidence is easy to see and know). It was not name calling but merely pointing out the obvious.
If that is 'bad', the I must be banned.
Do you vote in the US elections? Were you alive for the 4 years he was president prior? There were no wars started, the US was energy independent and even exporting, interest rates were low which made home ownership affordable for the middle class. Food was affordable. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe we’re tired of the globalism and what other countries think, and just want a strong national identity with a populace that understands men can’t get pregnant?
His policies worked before and they’ll work again. If you hate the policies so be it, but you can’t deny that the hate for him gets in the way of your rationale
It's funny you mention "critical thinking", norbertwinston, because I fail to see any of that in your posts.
You consistently show up in basically every single controversial/political thread to either just cheerlead your side (replying to others with nothing but a paraphrase of "I agree") or else offer flimsy talking points with very little evidence or reasoning to back them up. Compare, for example, any of your comments here to Gatsby's post upthread, whom I suspect you broadly agree with.
This wouldn't be that much of a problem if it were a oneoff, but the persistence with which you do it puts it over the top. Furthermore, your tendency to do this also brings out the worst in others, as is the case with your interactions in this thread.
I am sorry for this Chainer. But, as a plain speaker with definite solid values of seeing when a wrong is done, I will speak. Best, I think, is to ban me forever. I do not see any other course for you in this. It is sad, but as Socrates said "Let it be done, give me the poison and shut my mind forever."
I never really understood the logic of namecalling in an argument. What is the success rate of getting someone to see your point of view? Or do you not have a goal?
You might not be namecalling the user directly, but you're certainly trashing their choice of candidate. Imagine if users were calling Kamala a "fascist idiot", we would be flooded with reports to ban that person.
I am sorry Cgsweat, but I am just saying what everyone on the planet is calling Trump...merely just relaying the message (the evidence is easy to see and know). It was not name calling but merely pointing out the obvious.
So by voting in a Fascist, America voted against Fascism. Interesting that. Talk about the definition of Double-Speak.
And you totally ignored my points.
Interesting...again.
I would just like to say that Trump is nothing more than a surrogate, a proxy, or, as more directly, plain-talking people will say, a useful idiot.
This exchange has been entirely revealing.
I never really understood the logic of namecalling in an argument. What is the success rate of getting someone to see your point of view? Or do you not have a goal?
You might not be namecalling the user directly, but you're certainly trashing their choice of candidate. Imagine if users were calling Kamala a "fascist idiot", we would be flooded with reports to ban that person.
It's funny you mention "critical thinking", norbertwinston, because I fail to see any of that in your posts.
You consistently show up in basically every single controversial/political thread to either just cheerlead your side (replying to others with nothing but a paraphrase of "I agree") or else offer flimsy talking points with very little evidence or reasoning to back them up. Compare, for example, any of your comments here to Gatsby's post upthread, whom I suspect you broadly agree with.
This wouldn't be that much of a problem if it were a oneoff, but the persistence with which you do it puts it over the top. Furthermore, your tendency to do this also brings out the worst in others, as is the case with your interactions in this thread.
Oh yes....Putin is one smart psychopath. He even has you fooled Binary. What Putin says (and we can all watch video's till the cows come home) is not at all what the Kremlin is generating on the WWW because slick propaganda can never be brought back to the generator agents mainly because the average brain taking such stuff in has no interest in verifying things properly.
This so-called "great thing about the Modern Era" is nothing more than AI bots pushing items in your face. This is the anti-thesis of Personal Choice and, subsequently, Critical Thinking. This all reminds me of Fahrenheit 451. But the author of the fiction had no idea how far things would go and so soon.
We are currently experiencing the Dawn of the Non-Information Age and this is what Marshal McCluhan meant by "The Medium is the Message".
But you do make several good points...unfortunately, because you ask us to rely upon the Medium, that causes me pause.
Lots of vague platitudes here. I talked about specifically viewing actual videos that dispelled the media lies .. You brought up AI lol. Good luck.
Putin spanked Biden for four years and endorsed Kamala.
The great thing about the modern era is you can actually look up the story and see the video for yourself. So when they lie about the "bloodbath hoax" or the "fine people on both sides hoax" or the "he wants to shoot Liz Cheney hoax", you can literally look up the video for yourself and see the ACTUAL video and how they were lying. Too many people are waking up as mainstream media dies.
Oh yes....Putin is one smart psychopath. He even has you fooled Binary. What Putin says (and we can all watch video's till the cows come home) is not at all what the Kremlin is generating on the WWW because slick propaganda can never be brought back to the generator agents mainly because the average brain taking such stuff in has no interest in verifying things properly.
This so-called "great thing about the Modern Era" is nothing more than AI bots pushing items in your face. This is the anti-thesis of Personal Choice and, subsequently, Critical Thinking. This all reminds me of Fahrenheit 451. But the author of the fiction had no idea how far things would go and so soon.
We are currently experiencing the Dawn of the Non-Information Age and this is what Marshal McCluhan meant by "The Medium is the Message".
But you do make several good points...unfortunately, because you ask us to rely upon the Medium, that causes me pause.
Everything depends upon where and how one gets their information. The very slick and professional Chinese and Russian propaganda machines have been extremely successful --- they learn from their past errors but the West doesn't appear to have learned a thing. Esp the person in the street. As the average American goes about their business, oblivious to the influences that are affecting their World Outlooks, there is really only one outcome. The snickering and laughing in Beijing and Moscow must be something to see. We have just witnessed a very serious and highly compromising outcome just the other day --- the Champagne corks are popping in various places but certainly not in the West. The erosion of Democracy and Freedom is now well on its way to oblivion. All of this is just the curtain raising to show a new reality.
Putin spanked Biden for four years and endorsed Kamala.
The great thing about the modern era is you can actually look up the story and see the video for yourself. So when they lie about the "bloodbath hoax" or the "fine people on both sides hoax" or the "he wants to shoot Liz Cheney hoax", you can literally look up the video for yourself and see the ACTUAL video and how they were lying. Too many people are waking up as mainstream media dies.
Everything depends upon where and how one gets their information. The very slick and professional Chinese and Russian propaganda machines have been extremely successful --- they learn from their past errors but the West doesn't appear to have learned a thing. Esp the person in the street. As the average American goes about their business, oblivious to the influences that are affecting their World Outlooks, there is really only one outcome. The snickering and laughing in Beijing and Moscow must be something to see. We have just witnessed a very serious and highly compromising outcome just the other day --- the Champagne corks are popping in various places but certainly not in the West. The erosion of Democracy and Freedom is now well on its way to oblivion. All of this is just the curtain raising to show a new reality.
It was always striking to me that with all the name calling, they seem to forget that he's already been president for four years lol. These people are wild, I can't believe I was once one of them.
Speaking of normal vs abnormal, it's worth noting the major contrast between the way Kamala accepts defeat vs Trump. No crying, pouting, or divisive rhetoric. She gracefully accepted the outcome and began the process of re-uniting the country. In any context, most people don't enjoy seeing incredibly entitled and petulant behavior get rewarded, but here we are.
Yeah she got whooped, it wasn't close like when Hilary denied the results, Trump did, or Gore did. This was clear domination.
What Hilary and Obama did was the worst of all actually (funded Steele dossier, spied on Trump campaign, started the Russian collusion hoax for three years ..treason)
Very very happy with the results. Good to see America has some fight left in it and that people are waking up the media lies and hyperbole.
Kamala was an awful candidate and I'm shocked she got as many votes as she did tbh. The media basically did the campaigning for her as she was too incompetent. What the Democrats did to the country the last four years is despicable and really is treasonous imo. They just call everyone sexist and racist while funding wars and leaving the border open, pushing an insane agenda and using lawfare (even against RFK) to maintain power and imprison opponents.
I started out an RFK Jr Democrat and the more I researched and learned, the more I started to see what was really going on in this country. I voted as a Republican for the first time, it felt great.
As a lifelong Democrat, I can't see myself ever voting for this party ever again.
Speaking of normal vs abnormal, it's worth noting the major contrast between the way Kamala accepts defeat vs Trump. No crying, pouting, or divisive rhetoric. She gracefully accepted the outcome and began the process of re-uniting the country. In any context, most people don't enjoy seeing incredibly entitled and petulant behavior get rewarded, but here we are.
Thankyou Gatsby for your thoughtful and informative analysis of what happened and why. I tend to agree with you.
And Blips....all you need do is review certain items on Trumps Agenda, look to history and you will instantly understand what it is I am talking about. There is nothing mysterious here at all. Just simply telling you what it is is worthless...better to let you 'witness things first hand' and then the penny will drop. By then, of course, it will be way too late. But you will have learned a very tough lesson and have to swallow it.
translation: "i promise i know what im talking about dude just trust me"
Thankyou Gatsby for your thoughtful and informative analysis of what happened and why. I tend to agree with you.
And Blips....all you need do is review certain items on Trumps Agenda, look to history and you will instantly understand what it is I am talking about. There is nothing mysterious here at all. Just simply telling you what it is is worthless...better to let you 'witness things first hand' and then the penny will drop. By then, of course, it will be way too late. But you will have learned a very tough lesson and have to swallow it.
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I will have to be like the Sphinx from now on...simply observing silly Humans doing their very best to ruin everything but not realizing it.
The Ancients had it right. Who am I to think them wrong.
Here are some things that happened in the last four years, you tell me if they tilt to fascist/authoritarian or not:
Mandating an experimental injection on your citizens while threatening loss of livelihood, including firing military members who are trying to serve your country.
Openly coming out against free speech (first amendment).
Advocating for a mandatory gun buyback (second amendment).
Using unprecedented lawfare to go after and IMPRISON political opponents. And not just Trump, but Bannon, Navarro, Page, Flynn, Popadopalus.
Using lawfare to KEEP opponents off of ballots in certain states (RFK and Trump AND Stein)
And here's the worst one: importing millions of new and unvetted voters to acquire political power via amnesty (the top priority of Kamala's immigration policy).
I dunno, to me it's pretty clear.
Speaking as a Californian, ever since Trump won in 2016, it's felt like a real "Misinformation Age" with so-called liberal and progressive sources discarding impartiality and going hard with one-sided criticism and misleading if not outright lying media to the masses.
That's at least eight years' worth of yellow journalism and propaganda that most Americans were able to see through to elect the better candidate, one chosen by his party rather than ushered into the presidential nomination without contest (and they called Trump the fascist).
Do you vote in the US elections? Were you alive for the 4 years he was president prior? There were no wars started, the US was energy independent and even exporting, interest rates were low which made home ownership affordable for the middle class. Food was affordable. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe we’re tired of the globalism and what other countries think, and just want a strong national identity with a populace that understands men can’t get pregnant?
His policies worked before and they’ll work again. If you hate the policies so be it, but you can’t deny that the hate for him gets in the way of your rationale
I am sorry for this Chainer. But, as a plain speaker with definite solid values of seeing when a wrong is done, I will speak. Best, I think, is to ban me forever. I do not see any other course for you in this. It is sad, but as Socrates said "Let it be done, give me the poison and shut my mind forever."
I am sorry Cgsweat, but I am just saying what everyone on the planet is calling Trump...merely just relaying the message (the evidence is easy to see and know). It was not name calling but merely pointing out the obvious.
If that is 'bad', then, I must be banned.
Going back to this, here's the first openly MAGA MILF I've seen on the site... but I'm not searching too hard.
I never really understood the logic of namecalling in an argument. What is the success rate of getting someone to see your point of view? Or do you not have a goal?
You might not be namecalling the user directly, but you're certainly trashing their choice of candidate. Imagine if users were calling Kamala a "fascist idiot", we would be flooded with reports to ban that person.
It's funny you mention "critical thinking", norbertwinston, because I fail to see any of that in your posts.
You consistently show up in basically every single controversial/political thread to either just cheerlead your side (replying to others with nothing but a paraphrase of "I agree") or else offer flimsy talking points with very little evidence or reasoning to back them up. Compare, for example, any of your comments here to Gatsby's post upthread, whom I suspect you broadly agree with.
This wouldn't be that much of a problem if it were a oneoff, but the persistence with which you do it puts it over the top. Furthermore, your tendency to do this also brings out the worst in others, as is the case with your interactions in this thread.
So by voting in a Fascist, America voted against Fascism. Interesting that. Talk about the definition of Double-Speak.
And you totally ignored my points.
Interesting...again.
I would just like to say that Trump is nothing more than a surrogate, a proxy, or, as more directly, plain-talking people will say, a useful idiot.
This exchange has been entirely revealing.
Lots of vague platitudes here. I talked about specifically viewing actual videos that dispelled the media lies .. You brought up AI lol. Good luck.
America voted against fascism.
Oh yes....Putin is one smart psychopath. He even has you fooled Binary. What Putin says (and we can all watch video's till the cows come home) is not at all what the Kremlin is generating on the WWW because slick propaganda can never be brought back to the generator agents mainly because the average brain taking such stuff in has no interest in verifying things properly.
This so-called "great thing about the Modern Era" is nothing more than AI bots pushing items in your face. This is the anti-thesis of Personal Choice and, subsequently, Critical Thinking. This all reminds me of Fahrenheit 451. But the author of the fiction had no idea how far things would go and so soon.
We are currently experiencing the Dawn of the Non-Information Age and this is what Marshal McCluhan meant by "The Medium is the Message".
But you do make several good points...unfortunately, because you ask us to rely upon the Medium, that causes me pause.
Putin spanked Biden for four years and endorsed Kamala.
The great thing about the modern era is you can actually look up the story and see the video for yourself. So when they lie about the "bloodbath hoax" or the "fine people on both sides hoax" or the "he wants to shoot Liz Cheney hoax", you can literally look up the video for yourself and see the ACTUAL video and how they were lying. Too many people are waking up as mainstream media dies.
Everything depends upon where and how one gets their information. The very slick and professional Chinese and Russian propaganda machines have been extremely successful --- they learn from their past errors but the West doesn't appear to have learned a thing. Esp the person in the street. As the average American goes about their business, oblivious to the influences that are affecting their World Outlooks, there is really only one outcome. The snickering and laughing in Beijing and Moscow must be something to see. We have just witnessed a very serious and highly compromising outcome just the other day --- the Champagne corks are popping in various places but certainly not in the West. The erosion of Democracy and Freedom is now well on its way to oblivion. All of this is just the curtain raising to show a new reality.
It was always striking to me that with all the name calling, they seem to forget that he's already been president for four years lol. These people are wild, I can't believe I was once one of them.
Yeah she got whooped, it wasn't close like when Hilary denied the results, Trump did, or Gore did. This was clear domination.
What Hilary and Obama did was the worst of all actually (funded Steele dossier, spied on Trump campaign, started the Russian collusion hoax for three years ..treason)
Very very happy with the results. Good to see America has some fight left in it and that people are waking up the media lies and hyperbole.
Kamala was an awful candidate and I'm shocked she got as many votes as she did tbh. The media basically did the campaigning for her as she was too incompetent. What the Democrats did to the country the last four years is despicable and really is treasonous imo. They just call everyone sexist and racist while funding wars and leaving the border open, pushing an insane agenda and using lawfare (even against RFK) to maintain power and imprison opponents.
I started out an RFK Jr Democrat and the more I researched and learned, the more I started to see what was really going on in this country. I voted as a Republican for the first time, it felt great.
As a lifelong Democrat, I can't see myself ever voting for this party ever again.
God Bless America!
youre saying nothing of substance though. everything youre typing can be summed up as "i know what im talking about and you dont"
Why is this electric rail here and why are so many people touching it?
Speaking of normal vs abnormal, it's worth noting the major contrast between the way Kamala accepts defeat vs Trump. No crying, pouting, or divisive rhetoric. She gracefully accepted the outcome and began the process of re-uniting the country. In any context, most people don't enjoy seeing incredibly entitled and petulant behavior get rewarded, but here we are.
You don't know much history do you Blips. That's too bad really. But you will learn.
translation: "i promise i know what im talking about dude just trust me"
Thankyou Gatsby for your thoughtful and informative analysis of what happened and why. I tend to agree with you.
And Blips....all you need do is review certain items on Trumps Agenda, look to history and you will instantly understand what it is I am talking about. There is nothing mysterious here at all. Just simply telling you what it is is worthless...better to let you 'witness things first hand' and then the penny will drop. By then, of course, it will be way too late. But you will have learned a very tough lesson and have to swallow it.