Generally, gonna have to either say the 90's or the 2000's.
I'm quite young so didn't experience the 90's first hand but a lot of things from that era appeal to me, from the movies, to the videogames, and especially the music.
But the 2000's is not only the decade I have actual nostalgia for, but imo actually surpasses the 90's in a few aspects, namely the internet and tv shows/books (some real gems come from this era) and even the music was still great during this time, though the crappier trends that would become more prominent later on did have their start here. This applies to things like social media, which although obviously became much more prominent during the 2010's, started here as well.
i like the conveiniece that the internet has made, bu t i think it's destroying industries and attention spans faster than new things can pop up.
Completely agree on this. I was born in the early 70s and grew up without the internet, and I think I'm better off for it. I think that's why I'm so partial to the 80s, it was my teenage years and movies and music were great.
I just think that allowing the internet to be a part of childhood life and education is severely handicapping people.
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i think the 80s had the best music the 90s had the best movies 80s movies are good but i think some of them didn't age well and in the 2000s movies got dumbed down and in the 2010s they became pure shit .and the 2000s had the best video games and internet culture. i am not sure what to call it but i like how things worked in the 2000s compared to today .but the 2000s had the worst music nowadays there is more choice but the 2000s was more of a hybrid era when you had internet but mtv and radio was still relevant because you only had internet at home. nowadays i just ignore what is popular pre 80s seems like shit to me great music but not a lot of muscular woman and no video games. and the 2010s and 2020s so far seem like the 2000s but with faster internet but everything else is worse. i was born in the 90s so my views of the 80s and early 90s are just based on old movies and daily life may have been worse or better than i think
I wish I never had it. I feel it like a curse. It's not their fault, everyone lives and build muscles as they want.
But me being attracted to strong ladies, it's like admiring the sun, it burns, I want to keep doing it, I wish I could go there, but I can't.
Being a petite girl, always in books, scared to hell to go in a gym to build a little of confidence, because I'm scared to see a buff girl and can't control myself of stalking her.
So I webcam them, and just seing those pixels flexing I feel too emotional. So no sessions IRL, to not feel empty in my existence after the ends of artificial emotions.
I went to see that movie recently out, Love Lies bleeding, I had to hurry out of the screen room, I was getting too much warmed by some scenes, sweating and breathing heavy
like a perv.
Being Bisexual, helps to date some gentlemen. But they can be the most charming chaps, when I see a muscle girl, I lose it all.
I can't even think to date a strong girl, I'll be so messy in my emotions, my behaviour, I would ruin it all, and lose her. And they are so rare, I one, I lose all.
So yes, it's a bloody curse.
Forgive me ladies and gents for this, I just had to express it, after a bad Friday whiskey.
Disappointing: Annie Rivieccio on Female Muscle Movies - idk she just sucks at porn. She has so much potential. In her stills, she poses great. But in her porn, it just doesn't do it for me. Kinda stiff and boring.
Exceeded: Anastasia Korableva on Fitvids - Might be some of the sexiest posing I've ever seen in a vid. She's so big and thick and ripped, and she a very sexy poser. Her sexlessness is off the charts in these vids. Never a dull moment.
My two cents, based ONLY on the comments in this thread and not being able to see the movie yet. (Just missed it in theaters, and I'll pick it up when it comes to DVD): This movie is about lesbians, crime noir, steroids and female bodybuilders. I'd be VERY surprised if women in the sport approved of it. Pumping Iron II this definitely ain't!
On the other hand, it doesn't look like it's entirely designed for us fetishists. You want that, go watch Nemesis I or II again.
I'm VERY interested in seeing this for myself. Last good lesbian noir I saw was BOUND, back in the 90's, directed by the Wachowskis. I don't expect this to be that good.
Maybe I'm missing something really obvious, but I have trouble finding items, not among the images but in the forums. What I mean is, even when I use the most obvious key words - like "movies" for the "FBBs In The Movies" thread or "comics" for the "FBBs In The Comics" thread - I still won't find the thread. What am I getting wrong?
Brooke Ence is an actress, funny enough. She plays an Amazon in Wonder Woman and Justice League. I would cast her as the lead Amazon in a movie about Themyscira.
I look forward to you dating an inflatable doll. See how much more practical I am.
The ability to consider something is unrelated to seeing it as either feasible or ultimately desirable.
The fact that I can picture something in my mind, like in a cartoon or a movie script, does neither make nor prove it possible.
Repeating the word "progress" like some mantra does not mean you know a thing. This is no less silly than going around asking people to admire your penis (a far saner request because at least it probably exists).
I'd very much like you to just stop derailing the discussion by trying to make things personal out of some dumb envy, spite or one-upmanship. You have offered zero evidence for your fantasy, whereas I have already explained why it's nonsense. Which you have then totally ignored.
I have offered all the substance here. You have offered antics trying to get under my skin. I'm done with the substance. Only thing left to see is if you're done with the antics.
I'll say this; I've revealed my profession, and though I don't know yours, I am virtually certain you're no lawyer.
"envy, spite or one-upmanship"..."trying to get under my skin"
My God dear fellow, HOW you misread me. And that's me being polite, a part of me thinks "...malign me". There's a lot of ongoing sport I could make from that, honestly Zelensky would be jealous of me for the amount of ammo you gift me, but yeah, back on topic. Long overdue. Grand reset, if you're willing? :)
Earlier I said a woman with muscles is more attractive because strength and size are associated with health/fertility, and that the healthy male mind seeks out such characteristics (among others). I also remember saying a man attracted to smaller, weaker women would be thus likelier to himself be mentally weaker.
You rather quickly dismissed that idea as having been debunked frequently here. Says you...I'm fairly new here so I have not seen these alleged refutations.
And that, quite simply, is where we are on this topic. :)
Like a few people above, I definitely don't go in for non-fictional violence.
My other answer doesn't entirely belong here for two reasons. First, it doesn't involve FBBs (or other athletic women all that often - at least not very obvious ones). Second, it isn't about a woman winning a fight.
Instead, I have an attachment for male / female showdown scenes, but ones between the male protagonist and the female villain, not the opposite. Especially when he doesn't use a gun. That's partly because they're so rare - for every one of the scenes I just described, there are just about a hundred scenes of the other two kinds - "female good guy vs. male bad guy" or "female good guy vs. FEMALE bad guy." In fact, countless adventure story scenes actually SET UP a big confrontation between the hero and the femme fatale of the story, and at the LAST SECOND, the heroine of the story appears and stops her, which gets very predictable. (I know people love to see women fighting in stories, but it's still predictable!) So for all those reasons, I like scenes where the man gets rid of the femme fatale, including fatally.
But also, it's ten times better when there's been sex (including off-screen sex) between them, making her a kind of "black widow" who gets stopped by the victim himself, but AFTER the romantic stuff. Which is ANOTHER thing that should be obvious, but one that countless stories leave out, even ones with great "seductress" type villainesses.
Nearly the best movie example of what I mean is the Bond film THUNDERBALL - there's the big "steamy" scene between Bond and the femme fatale, and in the next scene - even though the story HAS a heroine - Bond himself puts her out of the way, and without using a gun (except indirectly). So that's the "pattern" that I mean. And again, hundreds of adventure stories - including big "sex and violence" ones - seem really, really timid about using it. So when a story DOES use it, that's part of the attraction.
Again, this has nothing to do with FBBs, but that's my obvious attachment when it comes to female characters and violent scenes.
For me just about 100% of movie or tv violence involving blood, gore, guns, knives, whacked out aliens and explosions isn't a turn on for me but I'll watch those movies w/no problem. Now, if we're talking certain sexual domination stuff in adult films or certain websites..depending on who it is and what they're doing that can definitely be something I like.
I think you missed my point about chaos. This thing is like predicting weather. I hope you know the difference between precision and accuracy. When it comes to chaos, it does not matter how precise you are, because after enough steps, you will not be accurate anymore. Any initial conditions will lead to the whole spectrum of all possible outcomes, which I referred to as the envelope, after enough time passes.
You don't need to "prove" anything. You will have a certain distribution of outcomes from certain initial conditions, if this is what you're referring to by patterns, and this may also be what chaos theory calls the basin of attraction.
What you're suggesting about the predictive power of an individual's genome is plain silly. This is like saying that the make, model and vehicle identification number of a car are the sole cause of the owner visiting certain places, and that known with good enough precision, can be used to predict those places.
Predictions do not create information. Predictions attempt to extract information that is already there in some form. Conversely, you can not extract something that doesn't exist.
This is like saying that if I trained myself to punch hard enough, I could punch through solid rock. Ignoring the fact that at some point I would just break my fist or my arm. All your predictions are based on what you don't know, not on what you do know.
To get back on topic, attraction to female muscle is best understood not in terms of direct cause and effect, but in terms of envelope. Nobody is always, without fail and totally attracted to something he's known to be attracted to. Whatever a person is attracted to, he may experience the attraction or craving depending on his state of mind and his circumstances, in some form or another, strongly or weakly, or not at all.
For example, at the moment I am unable to feel any attraction or craving towards any woman on this site. Tomorrow may be different. As much as I have no idea what will happen tomorrow, neither do I know how strongly or to whom I will be attracted if I decide to visit this site, what time of day it will be and what event, if any, will trigger it.
Let's say we take a thousand members of this site and expose them to some extreme sadomasochistic practice they've never seen before. Some will feel repulsed and remain that way. Some will be initially shocked and then, shortly afterwards, feel strangely fascinated by it and seek it out. Some will immediately feel both fascinated and grossed out. And finally some will instantly know they like it.
There is no way to predict the event of exposure, unless you intend to kidnap them and force them to watch. There is also very little accuracy in predicting their reactions, because part of it will depend on what have they been exposed to previously. I get why someone might be a masochist and wish to be dominated by a muscular girl, or a girl who knows martial arts. But candles, ropes, clamps, high heels, electric shocks, nipple torture and ballbusting I don't understand. I just know people do those things too.
It works like the escalator in a fun house. You go back and forth and every step depends on some immediate previous step. But there is no way to clearly say when the previous step has been taken, until the next one suddenly happens.
Like Critical Drinker often likes to say, stuff like this happens in movies because the plot needs it to happen. It is quite sad if the victory of machines over men or CIA over Joe Average depends on the latter sinking to their lowest possible level. I have no doubt it is happening. You only need to look around. But that is no evidence of how wonderful and incredible computers and three-letter agencies are becoming. I'd say the exact opposite. They're going to shit with everyone and everything else.
I didn't say you ONLY needed the genome and all it's connections mapped, to determine a given targets attractiveness to the subject. You'd still - for a while, until the tech catches up - need an equally deep database of the environmental variables to which the subject was exposed over the last 30 seconds, 30 days, 30 years etc.
However, with enough biodata about a given human, we'll know how much exposure and what kind of exposure, if any (suffices), is needed to bring him around to enjoying a Domme's spiked heel in the cleft between his balls.
Again...if this tech hasn't already been developed.
Predictions do not create information. Predictions attempt to extract information that is already there in some form
Nope. Predictions ARE information, albeit speculative, and predictions attempt nothing; they are the result of analytics, i.e. attempts to extract conclusions from existing data.
Fake violence like movie scenes or comic book scenes certainly can be turn on, and even very rough ones... I won't pretend I don't like the fatalities of Mortal Kombat or Fist of the North Star for example. It's the result of extraordinary strength, skills of combat and pure power... exciting and intimidating (and maybe little disgusting at same way).
But violence in real life?! No way! Even Box or MMA is ugly for me. There are so many useful things in real world how to use muscles and strength without hurting someone.
Instead of a list of natty women, it's more a fascinating window onto how much enhancement will be perceived as "natty" by people outside of the bodybuilding world.
I'm saying this without any judgement. If you've never tried gear before and you're not curious about bodybuilding/fitness as a whole, then you don't really have any benchmarks to judge people as natty or enhanced. That's a intentional on the part of the fitness industry. I remember seeing people like Jay Cutler and just thinking that I needed a lot of protein powder and flax seed oil and the right workout routine to look just like him. That's what bodybuilding media put forth back then.
Anyway, if a girl is uploaded to this site and you can easily link to her pic, then there's like a 99% chance that she's not natty.
There is one guy who frequently defends elite CrossFit competitors as natty (especially Mal O'Brien) and also posts encyclopedic knowledge about an athlete's performance history, but he reminds me of that one character in the movie The Menu who is obsessed with fine dining and acts like a critic, but when challenged by Ralph Fiennes's character to come up with his own dish, makes something extremely crappy. Would be curious to see how he does on a CrossFit benchmark workout like Fran, Helen or Grace. I don't think it's even enough to be curious about bodybuilding or even watch it outside of having a fetish for muscular women: I think you have to actually be a participant in a strength sport or at the very least be seriously into training and are around an actual fitness community.
But yeah, while I love this site it definitely leads to warped expectations. Awhile ago I posted a picture of a woman who definitely lifts and has muscle, but had a natty physique, and one comment said "I wouldn't consider her muscular at all, just fit." when, again, I know natty women who have been lifting for years and finally got a physique like that. One of the coaches at my former gym was a former Games athlete, and despite that being many years ago still seriously smokes everybody in the workouts that we go and is STRONG as hell for her size, but if I were to take a pic of her and post it here, she wouldn't probably get passed on for "not having visible muscle".
I'm not "rambling". And the huge success of "fifty shades of grey" - a movie about a submissive woman - contradicts modern feminism in many ways. But from a psychological standpoint it's no surprise. Women have these tendencies. And you would be surprised how many have even fantasies about getting raped by a physical superior person (you can google it, there are several research papers about it). Like many of us have these fantasies. That's the similarity I was talking about.
Then you really don’t understand what modern feminism is, buddy. Feminism is the about the empowerment of choice not the dynamics of submission/ domination. It would be nice if you could provide citations to support your position on your assertion that women tend to fantasize the act of non-consent. I would agree if you proposed that a common theme in the fantasies are a relinquish in control to a strong and stoic partner, but that does not mean it is an act of non-consent. I do not believe you have a mature outlook on what fantasies are in relation to our sexuality.
Just because people on this forum prefer muscular women does not mean we would like to be physically assaulted by one. I’m sure the fantasy of it is the idea that these women have the capability to, which makes it all the more desirable to have a strong woman that is a “master of the universe” (made a slight wink to Fifty Shades of Grey’s original title).
I'm not "rambling". And the huge success of "fifty shades of grey" - a movie about a submissive woman - contradicts modern feminism in many ways. But from a psychological standpoint it's no surprise. Women have these tendencies. And you would be surprised how many have even fantasies about getting raped by a physical superior person (you can google it, there are several research papers about it). Like many of us have these fantasies. That's the similarity I was talking about.
Before marriage became an institution a few thousands of years ago, rape is how we procreated for over a quarter million years. We'd see a fine woman, and just take her. That's not a popular viewpoint, but that's fundamentally who we still are.
Oh ands it’s because of modern day feminism that a movie like Fifty Shades of Grey was made so I don’t get the point of that example either….
I'm not "rambling". And the huge success of "fifty shades of grey" - a movie about a submissive woman - contradicts modern feminism in many ways. But from a psychological standpoint it's no surprise. Women have these tendencies. And you would be surprised how many have even fantasies about getting raped by a physical superior person (you can google it, there are several research papers about it). Like many of us have these fantasies. That's the similarity I was talking about.
I was always into lists and rankings about a lot of different things like sports and movies and stuff, and would also do stuff like rank my favorite female bodybuilders as well
Wow, never would have guessed Bill Simmons was an FBB fan!
Generally, gonna have to either say the 90's or the 2000's.
I'm quite young so didn't experience the 90's first hand but a lot of things from that era appeal to me, from the movies, to the videogames, and especially the music.
But the 2000's is not only the decade I have actual nostalgia for, but imo actually surpasses the 90's in a few aspects, namely the internet and tv shows/books (some real gems come from this era) and even the music was still great during this time, though the crappier trends that would become more prominent later on did have their start here. This applies to things like social media, which although obviously became much more prominent during the 2010's, started here as well.
“Communism is a red herring!”
Couldn’t help myself. LOVE that movie!
Completely agree on this. I was born in the early 70s and grew up without the internet, and I think I'm better off for it. I think that's why I'm so partial to the 80s, it was my teenage years and movies and music were great.
I just think that allowing the internet to be a part of childhood life and education is severely handicapping people.
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i think the 80s had the best music the 90s had the best movies 80s movies are good but i think some of them didn't age well and in the 2000s movies got dumbed down and in the 2010s they became pure shit .and the 2000s had the best video games and internet culture. i am not sure what to call it but i like how things worked in the 2000s compared to today .but the 2000s had the worst music nowadays there is more choice but the 2000s was more of a hybrid era when you had internet but mtv and radio was still relevant because you only had internet at home. nowadays i just ignore what is popular pre 80s seems like shit to me great music but not a lot of muscular woman and no video games. and the 2010s and 2020s so far seem like the 2000s but with faster internet but everything else is worse. i was born in the 90s so my views of the 80s and early 90s are just based on old movies and daily life may have been worse or better than i think
Jennifer Lopez in new Movie "Atlas"
I wish I never had it. I feel it like a curse. It's not their fault, everyone lives and build muscles as they want. But me being attracted to strong ladies, it's like admiring the sun, it burns, I want to keep doing it, I wish I could go there, but I can't. Being a petite girl, always in books, scared to hell to go in a gym to build a little of confidence, because I'm scared to see a buff girl and can't control myself of stalking her. So I webcam them, and just seing those pixels flexing I feel too emotional. So no sessions IRL, to not feel empty in my existence after the ends of artificial emotions. I went to see that movie recently out, Love Lies bleeding, I had to hurry out of the screen room, I was getting too much warmed by some scenes, sweating and breathing heavy like a perv. Being Bisexual, helps to date some gentlemen. But they can be the most charming chaps, when I see a muscle girl, I lose it all. I can't even think to date a strong girl, I'll be so messy in my emotions, my behaviour, I would ruin it all, and lose her. And they are so rare, I one, I lose all.
So yes, it's a bloody curse.
Forgive me ladies and gents for this, I just had to express it, after a bad Friday whiskey.
Disappointing: Annie Rivieccio on Female Muscle Movies - idk she just sucks at porn. She has so much potential. In her stills, she poses great. But in her porn, it just doesn't do it for me. Kinda stiff and boring.
Exceeded: Anastasia Korableva on Fitvids - Might be some of the sexiest posing I've ever seen in a vid. She's so big and thick and ripped, and she a very sexy poser. Her sexlessness is off the charts in these vids. Never a dull moment.
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My two cents, based ONLY on the comments in this thread and not being able to see the movie yet. (Just missed it in theaters, and I'll pick it up when it comes to DVD): This movie is about lesbians, crime noir, steroids and female bodybuilders. I'd be VERY surprised if women in the sport approved of it. Pumping Iron II this definitely ain't!
On the other hand, it doesn't look like it's entirely designed for us fetishists. You want that, go watch Nemesis I or II again.
I'm VERY interested in seeing this for myself. Last good lesbian noir I saw was BOUND, back in the 90's, directed by the Wachowskis. I don't expect this to be that good.
Maybe I'm missing something really obvious, but I have trouble finding items, not among the images but in the forums. What I mean is, even when I use the most obvious key words - like "movies" for the "FBBs In The Movies" thread or "comics" for the "FBBs In The Comics" thread - I still won't find the thread. What am I getting wrong?
Brooke Ence is an actress, funny enough. She plays an Amazon in Wonder Woman and Justice League. I would cast her as the lead Amazon in a movie about Themyscira.
Saw the movie yesterday. She looks so good
Anne Hathaway's abs in her new movie, The Idea of You.
I'll say this; I've revealed my profession, and though I don't know yours, I am virtually certain you're no lawyer.
My God dear fellow, HOW you misread me. And that's me being polite, a part of me thinks "...malign me". There's a lot of ongoing sport I could make from that, honestly Zelensky would be jealous of me for the amount of ammo you gift me, but yeah, back on topic. Long overdue. Grand reset, if you're willing? :)
Earlier I said a woman with muscles is more attractive because strength and size are associated with health/fertility, and that the healthy male mind seeks out such characteristics (among others). I also remember saying a man attracted to smaller, weaker women would be thus likelier to himself be mentally weaker.
You rather quickly dismissed that idea as having been debunked frequently here. Says you...I'm fairly new here so I have not seen these alleged refutations.
And that, quite simply, is where we are on this topic. :)
Like a few people above, I definitely don't go in for non-fictional violence.
My other answer doesn't entirely belong here for two reasons. First, it doesn't involve FBBs (or other athletic women all that often - at least not very obvious ones). Second, it isn't about a woman winning a fight.
Instead, I have an attachment for male / female showdown scenes, but ones between the male protagonist and the female villain, not the opposite. Especially when he doesn't use a gun. That's partly because they're so rare - for every one of the scenes I just described, there are just about a hundred scenes of the other two kinds - "female good guy vs. male bad guy" or "female good guy vs. FEMALE bad guy." In fact, countless adventure story scenes actually SET UP a big confrontation between the hero and the femme fatale of the story, and at the LAST SECOND, the heroine of the story appears and stops her, which gets very predictable. (I know people love to see women fighting in stories, but it's still predictable!) So for all those reasons, I like scenes where the man gets rid of the femme fatale, including fatally.
But also, it's ten times better when there's been sex (including off-screen sex) between them, making her a kind of "black widow" who gets stopped by the victim himself, but AFTER the romantic stuff. Which is ANOTHER thing that should be obvious, but one that countless stories leave out, even ones with great "seductress" type villainesses.
Nearly the best movie example of what I mean is the Bond film THUNDERBALL - there's the big "steamy" scene between Bond and the femme fatale, and in the next scene - even though the story HAS a heroine - Bond himself puts her out of the way, and without using a gun (except indirectly). So that's the "pattern" that I mean. And again, hundreds of adventure stories - including big "sex and violence" ones - seem really, really timid about using it. So when a story DOES use it, that's part of the attraction.
Again, this has nothing to do with FBBs, but that's my obvious attachment when it comes to female characters and violent scenes.
For me just about 100% of movie or tv violence involving blood, gore, guns, knives, whacked out aliens and explosions isn't a turn on for me but I'll watch those movies w/no problem. Now, if we're talking certain sexual domination stuff in adult films or certain websites..depending on who it is and what they're doing that can definitely be something I like.
I didn't say you ONLY needed the genome and all it's connections mapped, to determine a given targets attractiveness to the subject. You'd still - for a while, until the tech catches up - need an equally deep database of the environmental variables to which the subject was exposed over the last 30 seconds, 30 days, 30 years etc.
However, with enough biodata about a given human, we'll know how much exposure and what kind of exposure, if any (suffices), is needed to bring him around to enjoying a Domme's spiked heel in the cleft between his balls.
Again...if this tech hasn't already been developed.
Nope. Predictions ARE information, albeit speculative, and predictions attempt nothing; they are the result of analytics, i.e. attempts to extract conclusions from existing data.
Fake violence like movie scenes or comic book scenes certainly can be turn on, and even very rough ones... I won't pretend I don't like the fatalities of Mortal Kombat or Fist of the North Star for example. It's the result of extraordinary strength, skills of combat and pure power... exciting and intimidating (and maybe little disgusting at same way). But violence in real life?! No way! Even Box or MMA is ugly for me. There are so many useful things in real world how to use muscles and strength without hurting someone.
There is one guy who frequently defends elite CrossFit competitors as natty (especially Mal O'Brien) and also posts encyclopedic knowledge about an athlete's performance history, but he reminds me of that one character in the movie The Menu who is obsessed with fine dining and acts like a critic, but when challenged by Ralph Fiennes's character to come up with his own dish, makes something extremely crappy. Would be curious to see how he does on a CrossFit benchmark workout like Fran, Helen or Grace. I don't think it's even enough to be curious about bodybuilding or even watch it outside of having a fetish for muscular women: I think you have to actually be a participant in a strength sport or at the very least be seriously into training and are around an actual fitness community.
But yeah, while I love this site it definitely leads to warped expectations. Awhile ago I posted a picture of a woman who definitely lifts and has muscle, but had a natty physique, and one comment said "I wouldn't consider her muscular at all, just fit." when, again, I know natty women who have been lifting for years and finally got a physique like that. One of the coaches at my former gym was a former Games athlete, and despite that being many years ago still seriously smokes everybody in the workouts that we go and is STRONG as hell for her size, but if I were to take a pic of her and post it here, she wouldn't probably get passed on for "not having visible muscle".
Then you really don’t understand what modern feminism is, buddy. Feminism is the about the empowerment of choice not the dynamics of submission/ domination. It would be nice if you could provide citations to support your position on your assertion that women tend to fantasize the act of non-consent. I would agree if you proposed that a common theme in the fantasies are a relinquish in control to a strong and stoic partner, but that does not mean it is an act of non-consent. I do not believe you have a mature outlook on what fantasies are in relation to our sexuality.
Just because people on this forum prefer muscular women does not mean we would like to be physically assaulted by one. I’m sure the fantasy of it is the idea that these women have the capability to, which makes it all the more desirable to have a strong woman that is a “master of the universe” (made a slight wink to Fifty Shades of Grey’s original title).
Before marriage became an institution a few thousands of years ago, rape is how we procreated for over a quarter million years. We'd see a fine woman, and just take her. That's not a popular viewpoint, but that's fundamentally who we still are.
I'm not "rambling". And the huge success of "fifty shades of grey" - a movie about a submissive woman - contradicts modern feminism in many ways. But from a psychological standpoint it's no surprise. Women have these tendencies. And you would be surprised how many have even fantasies about getting raped by a physical superior person (you can google it, there are several research papers about it). Like many of us have these fantasies. That's the similarity I was talking about.
Wow, never would have guessed Bill Simmons was an FBB fan!