In response to MuscleMaster: I don't think your argument concerning organs etc. holds a lot of water. If I admire the bodywork of a train, and appreciate the workings of the engine inside, it does not mean I would also have to admire the sight of the engine itself. A well-developed musculature does two things to the body: it gives it (a) more pronounced shape(s), and in doing so/on top of that, emphasises certain aspects of the inner workings. I appreciate all living things (in a biological sense - I could name a few things I'd appreciate more if they were dead), but that does not mean I find them all attractive. I said I love the female form. I don't think there's much else I can say about that. But muscles add to this form in several ways, including a way that with me, invokes admiration for the biological foundations of mankind and nature itself on top of regular sexual attraction.
As for power... I'm having trouble finding the relevance of it in my own situation. I realize that there's certainly something about a girl having the potential to exercise enormous amounts of force, but how exactly that plays a role in my attraction to them I cannot say. I am not interested in shows of strength or anything of the sort. Perhaps it's just the apparent paradox of a cute girl being so... "dangerous" at the same time? I really don't know. As far as I am consciously aware of it though, I can at least rule out the three causes you listed. There's something about power (as in strength), but I don't quite know what.
Furthermore I cannot deny the possibility that there's something "special" about liking something most people don't like. Of course this plays only a superficial role, and does not influence the attraction itself, but yeah... There's something special about being special, so to say.
Greatly amused by your posts! And I agree that there are other forces at play here and that the ratings do not necessarily reflect the quality of pictures very accurately (not to mention that there are differences in taste). Take care dudes!
I think it's simply the way we are hardwired.I guess it can be a learned response,but I know that I have found muscles on women sexually attractive for as long as I can remember and most of the guys I have seen comment on it at other sites are the same. Further, aside from it being out of the societal norms I don't think being attracted to female muscle is any different than being turned on by a big bust etc...so I reject the "fetish" label.
It's a real leap of logic to attribute the low ratings to racism.
The first pic really does not show her body to it's best advantage...the first one of her in the restroom gives a far better idea of how great looking she is.
There are all sorts of people on the site with varying tastes...I chalk it up to that.And frankly, I don't care about the ratings...I know what Ilike and could care less of someone else doesn't.
Ok you got to be shitting me!!!! Something is really FUC!@# up here. This rated 4.9 and she's "Kristi Pugh" She must be Jewish. What can explain this!! There must have been a seg fault when i looked at this!!!!!! http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=1325
I think its more of a problem that there is a guy in the pic rather that she is black, but I can tell you some of the ratings make no sence what so ever.
She has nice abs but with the guy in the pic and its being a bit fuzzy and out of focus, plus she has a tat on her abs which a lot of people don't like, also she isn't realy flexing her abs either.
So I think its more of the quality of the pic, the fact a guy is in it and that she is not flexing plus the tat that has it rated low but a 1.3 after 13 votes is lower than it should get.
Here's my take on things - and I don't mean to be confrontational in the slightest - I'm just pushing you guys to consider opening your minds further by offering this food for thought:
Like gungadin, my interest in muscular girls also started when I was very young - around 1st grade (5-6yo). Also, I agree that the argument CAN BE MADE (but is not necessarily the true explanation) that there is a natural selection type phenomenon happening. I certainly think this argument appeals to the mind that wants to rationalize what society deems inappropriate or strange by saying: "Actually, I prefer superior women." But, are they truly superior women, or did they just become obsessed with working out? Did they take steroids in which case their physiques aren't even attributable to genetic/natural superiority? Of course, some muscular girls truly do have incredible genes and natural talents and beauty. But, based on natural selection in the modern era, wouldn't being the most intelligent be the best way to ensure survival? Surely Bill Gate's has a better chance at surviving that Joe Shmoe living in poverty wherever?
And, finally, like Arcanus, I of course like to see innards (in the form of muscles) protruding through the the skin. I'm going to challenge Arcanus to consider delving deeper, however, because I'm not buying the "I find complexity beautiful" thing very convincing. I think you took an overly analytical approach at the explanation rather than delving further into yourself - but your analysis was superficial and in my humble opinion did not truly illuminate anything more than the presupposed fact that you indeed like muscles. Pointing out that they are internal organs and complex belies the point of this discussion which is "WHY?" I'm not just saying this to be argumentative, but Arc, you wouldn't be on this site if it was featuring girls with engorged spleens sticking out of their sides, or swollen lymph nodes popping out of their necks or wherever. Am I right about that? So, assuming you agree that this is something specific to seeing muscles (and perhaps veins) popping out, and not merely organs - you don't have a sexual interest in your anatomy diagrams - where does the appeal TRULY lie?
POWER. All sexual desires and fetishes boil down to power. People get off either feeling powerful themselves (hence guys wanting to thrust hard, be considered huge-cocked, and why ask they girls "Who's your Daddy?!" just to name a few simplistic examples.) On the other hand, some people get off on feeling weak and powerless by exaggerating and admiring/worshipping etc. the power of their lover - in other words they get off on seeing someone else's power. Pushed to the extreme, this becomes the BDSM fetish. If you read through the stories posted on another section of this forum, you'll find that strength and power and domination are key themes which consistently recur in practically every single story. Now, different people like different types of power: Some like the idea of wrestling; some like the idea that a girl can BEAT them at running, cycling, jumping, sit-ups, lifting; some like gigantic girls who have larger and stronger muscles than they do; some even like monster-sized fantasy women crushing oppressive men's heads like so many ripened grapes. Some people like it when a girl defecates on them (yuck!)...
OK - so point is, I think the majority of men who like muscular women like to see physical power and prowess in their partner. The protruding, rock-hard, vein-laden muscles are merely the outwardly visual/aesthetic cues which signal this power and superiority (in terms of strength etc.). If you want to get spiritual, you could also say that the outward appearance is a manifestation for how powerful the girl's spirit/determination/will/soul/whatever is - and that sort of personality power goes a long way too i sexual appeal. Illustrating this point: Imagine two otherwise equal girls one who wants to throw you down on the bed and rip your shirt off, and one who is timid and shy and rather boring - I'm guessing the one with the attitude and spunk appeals to 99% of guys.
On the other hand, we often like to see younger females with muscles. This may be a hybrid situation of both types of appeal. So, for example some teenaged girl - 18, let's say - has larger-than-average muscles - so she's worthy of worship and admiration and what I call "vicariously enjoying someone else's strength/power." At the same time, we can imagine she's a virgin, with a very tight...umm "body" and her innocence and youth etc simultaneously would make us powerful, big-cocked sex gods - or something remotely like that - she'll call us "Daddy" so to speak.
So, finally getting to the point. This all begs the question WHY WHY WHY? Why muscle on girls? Yeah we know it has something to do with power, but why is this particular BRAND of power in the object of our desire, appealing to us. Yeah, the aesthetics appeal to us, the tactile hardness, the strength, but as discussed above: that's describing the symptom and not the root CAUSE.
This is where it becomes less clear for me but here goes a list of attitudes/causes I've observed and reflected upon:
1. Compensating - Person lacks feelings of power and strength in himself, is of slight build or overweight, average. Of course he knows that in an ideal situation he himself would have a perfect toned muscular body, but is unable or unwilling to try to obtain it. He can't fantasize about muscular guys of course - that would be (very) gay, and I suppose he could if he were gay, but that's another story - so in order to obtain his body without actually having to go to the gym, he feasts his eyes on images of girls with perfect bodies and thinks to himself "wow, that sure is perfect."
2. Submissive (possibly a subset of compensation??) - So many people with an interest in muscular women also have an interest in BDSM, specifically in the submissive and masochistic aspects of it (the domination and sadism, obviously, is left for the women). Again, the guy feels weak, average, normal, etc. and wants to experience strength vicariously through the woman whom he allows to torture him, defeat him in wrestling, etc. Basically, he views the situation as though from outside his body as a fly on the wall. He is gratified by knowing the woman's strength and superiority - he claims it for himself. The physical pain and resistance he feels he merely attributes back to her as a signal for what power/pain she can inflict. He, of course, probably couldn't, wouldn't, or shouldn't even try to hurt a fly in the real world.
3. Non-vicarious (exceedingly rare, probably not anyone reading this) - This would be like a male bodybuilder* or male athlete or something along those lines. For this guy, finding a truly superior chick is a necessity simply to find someone on his own level who can keep up and be an ideal perfect mate. A really good example of this is Deione Sanders and his wife Pilar (she's 6' tall, a model, and quite naturally fit and buff - in fact I should post some pics of her perhaps) - he has it all, so to settle for anything less would just lead to the woman being perpetually insecure and a crappy relationship - it must be this way for him. A guy like that does not need her to dominate him (she can't anyway), he doesn't need her to be muscular (has his own perfect body), and if anything, he's still the dominant one in the bedroom - generically speaking - or perhaps they take turns, who knows!
*Note: body types refer to archetypical examples - it's possible to get into shape and retain the skinny weakling mentality, or to be obese (having once been muscular, say, after an injury) and retain the confident non-vicarious dominant type.
Hopefully this doesn't come off as harsh or anything, but I think that's pretty accurate and scarily honest (considering I'm one of you). It sounds worse than it is - but basically you're either MOSTLY into being dominated, or MOSTLY into dominating, and I think for MOST guys with a muscular gal fetish, MOST of you lean towards the desire to be dominated and live vicariously (in this respect, at least) through the woman. It's not as bad as it sounds because the alternative is to fetishize your own dominance which pushed to extreme can lead to rape fantasies and other crazy stuff.
I personally don't care about what people think of my uploads, but I am disappointed to see the state of affairs when we have a black president and it's almost 2010 and people just HATE on others based on their race. C'mon people, grow up? It starts by appreciating the commonalities and aesthetic beauties, and then maybe you can appreciate other human beings as people.
And, on a more positive note, to those who LIKED that pic above...
Sorry to bump, but I thought I could add a different view to the topic (namely my own).
I've not always loved muscles. With me, it started some time ago not as a fetish, but as general admiration of biological organisms - anything from a plant up to the most complex of all: the human body. This must've started around the age of 15 or so. I remember sitting in the biology classroom staring at one of those posters indicating all muscles of the human body, just in awe of its complexity. It is such a wonderful, astonishing piece of nature. From the moment this dawned on me, I started paying attention to what can be seen of these inner workings from the outside, e.g. when you can see tendons and muscles move around. Obviously, on a built, muscular body we can even better observe how the system works: how all individual muscles flex and relax to together form smooth movement of the body, or just from a picture, see the muscular structure of the human body. So combining this awe I have for the biological shape with my innate love for women and their form (I trust that this needs no further substantiation), well... Here I am. And that's the theoretical explanation I have for my fetish.
Sorry if this sounded overly lyrical, I'm not usually like that. :p
I re-read my response from back then and pretty much stand behind it - it was meant to be inspirational. I don't mind if someone wants to be humiliated or dominated - that's fine. What I objected to was the form of the question and the answer being so obvious. It's like asking who's stronger Iris Kyle OR a starving 2 year old child in Somalia who happens to be male? That's what makes it idiotic is that it's a self-answering question. So the point I was making was that, yes, a strong woman IS stronger than a weak male - how could anyone "bet" any differently? If one person is solid muscle weighing 200lbs, and the other is of average build weigh 70lbs - would you ever bet on the mediocre 70lbs person - regardless of whether it was two men, two women, or one of each? No.
At a certain point you need to take the power back into your life. Get over the idea of being dominated and humiliated - that's taking pleasure in someone else's power and superiority - hence the "vicarious" comment. Instead, you gotta gain some power and respect in yourself if you expect to grow spiritually and find lasting happiness. No amount of cheap thrills or sadomasochism will amount to that.
nano schmuck? lol 99% of us have the humiliation gene which goes hand in hand with female muscle.deniers are liars.lets not judge others as their fantasies may be a bit different,there is no right or wrong.at least the dude asked and if that is not sublimating to him,who is to say he cant stay home and be weak? lots of muscle girls make lots of $ off these dudes.he is not dissing or hurting anyone else.
the term girls is a very relative word,alot depends on the age of the person using it. girls denote a younger more youthful appearance no matter the chrono age. but what matters is we all admire April,she is the most incredible one here.if only we could grow more Aprils so all of us here have a chance with her! or her clones;)
so how many do of us want to see what a morphed girl would look like in person? thats what a myo blocker would do.i wouldnt doubt it will occur somewhere in the world,brazil,russia,who knows, but it will happen.
i'm not against it either - just like to be realistic about it. hard to compare apples to apples when one girl takes PED's and another doesn't - but easy to think that the one taking drugs is somehow better genetically or harder-working - kind of like many professional athletes have obtained riches, endorsements, and accolades on this rather fraudulent basis. aesthetically though, and in sports like bodybuilding/fitness where it's allowed the only thing i am against is overdosing to the extent that facial features become distorted or masculine. to stay remotely on the thread topic: natasha is still cute, but you can see some distortion has occurred. hopefully she'll draw the line soon and just focus on maintaining her mass and definition.
she's actually gotten a LOT bigger since that was taken, but Ursus is correct in observing that it is without question due to steroids. Taking steroids still means that a person has to workout hard to achieve results, but just be careful not to give the girl credit for her size - she would likely be half that size if it weren't for the drugs (roughly speaking). Also the growth rate becomes incredibly accelerated with the use of steroids. That said, however, natasha is a nice-looking girl. Not the youngest bodybuilder though - perhaps one of the youngest to take steroids though hehe.
Near as what I've heard (read) myo (muscle) statin (stop) blockers, are supposed to inhibit or slow down or possibly even stop the body's natural self limiting ability to grow muscle fiber. The body only grows so much muscle and then it naturally shuts down the process. With a blocker, the theory is that it turns off this built-in mechanism and allows the body to keep on building new muscle tissue. I tried some once when it first came out, made out of some kind of seaweed extract, but never noticed any gains. I figured that for it to be effective, you would have to know your body's chemistry to the point of knowing just how much to take and for how long. Otherwise it would be too much of a hit-or-miss scenario. I do believe that it could very well work, but would only be viable for those people that really need it, such as muscular dystrophy or atrophy patients. I'm sure that there could be adverse side-effects as well (such as an enlarged heart) that would deem it impractical for common use. As far as women taking it to grow muscle to the size that many people on this forum fantasize about (as was stated in the first post on this thread), I doubt that it would be practical. As far as an alternative to steroids, I'm sure that some would try it, but again IMHO, I don't see in the short term that it would be of much benefit. But who knows, one can only fantasize about what might could happen... ;D
Her name is natasha truhina she is from russian and she's 18 ylo but look at her picture.
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in just about 3 monthes she build up this muscles, she were training since she was 15 but when she became 18 she took steriods because if you saw her pic before 3 months she wasn't that huge pls she is youngest bodybuilder in the world.
pls if someone has a picturs about here recentily posted here and forgive me because my Eng is bad it's not my first language.
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I don't think your argument concerning organs etc. holds a lot of water. If I admire the bodywork of a train, and appreciate the workings of the engine inside, it does not mean I would also have to admire the sight of the engine itself. A well-developed musculature does two things to the body: it gives it (a) more pronounced shape(s), and in doing so/on top of that, emphasises certain aspects of the inner workings. I appreciate all living things (in a biological sense - I could name a few things I'd appreciate more if they were dead), but that does not mean I find them all attractive.
I said I love the female form. I don't think there's much else I can say about that. But muscles add to this form in several ways, including a way that with me, invokes admiration for the biological foundations of mankind and nature itself on top of regular sexual attraction.
As for power... I'm having trouble finding the relevance of it in my own situation. I realize that there's certainly something about a girl having the potential to exercise enormous amounts of force, but how exactly that plays a role in my attraction to them I cannot say. I am not interested in shows of strength or anything of the sort. Perhaps it's just the apparent paradox of a cute girl being so... "dangerous" at the same time? I really don't know. As far as I am consciously aware of it though, I can at least rule out the three causes you listed. There's something about power (as in strength), but I don't quite know what.
Furthermore I cannot deny the possibility that there's something "special" about liking something most people don't like. Of course this plays only a superficial role, and does not influence the attraction itself, but yeah... There's something special about being special, so to say.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sr99j
The first pic really does not show her body to it's best advantage...the first one of her in the restroom gives a far better idea of how great looking she is.
There are all sorts of people on the site with varying tastes...I chalk it up to that.And frankly, I don't care about the ratings...I know what Ilike and could care less of someone else doesn't.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32095
This girl does not look umm white and has 315 votes and 8.7 rating
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32108
Consitently highly rated does not look white
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=15582
Got slammed crappy picture but through the fuzz you can she is a nice girl
but I think we are a finicky bunch here and want hi-rez booty not crappy cell phone picture booty
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32013
Ok not bad outside of abs she not that jacked. I understand this is "Girls With Muscle"
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32100
ditto
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32052
And lets be honest the girl above can't even stand in the same building as this girl. I'm looking for
somebody to find more of this!
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32015
Ok you got to be shitting me!!!! Something is really FUC!@# up here. This rated 4.9 and
she's "Kristi Pugh" She must be Jewish. What can explain this!! There must have been a
seg fault when i looked at this!!!!!!
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=1325
Ok some one does not like Jodi
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=29365
Nor this
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=30164
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=30228
I guess when KO poses we want to see boobs got slammed.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=30306
Mandy Blank sucks at least that is the rating.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=31571
I'm sorry but this girl is way better than
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32068
This girl
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32095
NIce girl and NO DUDE and 7.4 is not a bad rating.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32076
Ditto for this girl.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32080
And for shit sake get more of this 8.2!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quit holding dammit!!
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32088
Ok most people like this girl
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32087
And a very nice cell phone pic. Jacked!
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32089
Again this is girls with muscle. I guess what we could do for an
experiment and slap Heidi Klum on here and claim she has muscle
and she how she gets rated.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32000
Should she be rated higher than 6.4 aaa... nope. She must aquire Flo Jo gams to up her rating.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=21715
And again this girl better be rated much better than the "kid" above. Consistently in the 8 + zone
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=16277
Ok Overrated too ripped for me. But if I don't like I typically don't rate but maybe I should.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=4833
All zero to 1 and a little pasty
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=29897
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25870
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25852
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25812
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=26380
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=28828
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=28829
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=28831
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=28070
Oh come on Suzette Healea rocks!
rated 3
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25928
Rated 2
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25927
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=25926
Is it racism? If you look for it you can find it!
She has nice abs but with the guy in the pic and its being a bit fuzzy and out of focus, plus she has a tat on her abs which a lot of people don't like, also she isn't realy flexing her abs either.
So I think its more of the quality of the pic, the fact a guy is in it and that she is not flexing plus the tat that has it rated low but a 1.3 after 13 votes is lower than it should get.
Like gungadin, my interest in muscular girls also started when I was very young - around 1st grade (5-6yo). Also, I agree that the argument CAN BE MADE (but is not necessarily the true explanation) that there is a natural selection type phenomenon happening. I certainly think this argument appeals to the mind that wants to rationalize what society deems inappropriate or strange by saying: "Actually, I prefer superior women." But, are they truly superior women, or did they just become obsessed with working out? Did they take steroids in which case their physiques aren't even attributable to genetic/natural superiority? Of course, some muscular girls truly do have incredible genes and natural talents and beauty. But, based on natural selection in the modern era, wouldn't being the most intelligent be the best way to ensure survival? Surely Bill Gate's has a better chance at surviving that Joe Shmoe living in poverty wherever?
And, finally, like Arcanus, I of course like to see innards (in the form of muscles) protruding through the the skin. I'm going to challenge Arcanus to consider delving deeper, however, because I'm not buying the "I find complexity beautiful" thing very convincing. I think you took an overly analytical approach at the explanation rather than delving further into yourself - but your analysis was superficial and in my humble opinion did not truly illuminate anything more than the presupposed fact that you indeed like muscles. Pointing out that they are internal organs and complex belies the point of this discussion which is "WHY?" I'm not just saying this to be argumentative, but Arc, you wouldn't be on this site if it was featuring girls with engorged spleens sticking out of their sides, or swollen lymph nodes popping out of their necks or wherever. Am I right about that? So, assuming you agree that this is something specific to seeing muscles (and perhaps veins) popping out, and not merely organs - you don't have a sexual interest in your anatomy diagrams - where does the appeal TRULY lie?
POWER. All sexual desires and fetishes boil down to power. People get off either feeling powerful themselves (hence guys wanting to thrust hard, be considered huge-cocked, and why ask they girls "Who's your Daddy?!" just to name a few simplistic examples.) On the other hand, some people get off on feeling weak and powerless by exaggerating and admiring/worshipping etc. the power of their lover - in other words they get off on seeing someone else's power. Pushed to the extreme, this becomes the BDSM fetish. If you read through the stories posted on another section of this forum, you'll find that strength and power and domination are key themes which consistently recur in practically every single story. Now, different people like different types of power: Some like the idea of wrestling; some like the idea that a girl can BEAT them at running, cycling, jumping, sit-ups, lifting; some like gigantic girls who have larger and stronger muscles than they do; some even like monster-sized fantasy women crushing oppressive men's heads like so many ripened grapes. Some people like it when a girl defecates on them (yuck!)...
OK - so point is, I think the majority of men who like muscular women like to see physical power and prowess in their partner. The protruding, rock-hard, vein-laden muscles are merely the outwardly visual/aesthetic cues which signal this power and superiority (in terms of strength etc.). If you want to get spiritual, you could also say that the outward appearance is a manifestation for how powerful the girl's spirit/determination/will/soul/whatever is - and that sort of personality power goes a long way too i sexual appeal. Illustrating this point: Imagine two otherwise equal girls one who wants to throw you down on the bed and rip your shirt off, and one who is timid and shy and rather boring - I'm guessing the one with the attitude and spunk appeals to 99% of guys.
On the other hand, we often like to see younger females with muscles. This may be a hybrid situation of both types of appeal. So, for example some teenaged girl - 18, let's say - has larger-than-average muscles - so she's worthy of worship and admiration and what I call "vicariously enjoying someone else's strength/power." At the same time, we can imagine she's a virgin, with a very tight...umm "body" and her innocence and youth etc simultaneously would make us powerful, big-cocked sex gods - or something remotely like that - she'll call us "Daddy" so to speak.
So, finally getting to the point. This all begs the question WHY WHY WHY? Why muscle on girls? Yeah we know it has something to do with power, but why is this particular BRAND of power in the object of our desire, appealing to us. Yeah, the aesthetics appeal to us, the tactile hardness, the strength, but as discussed above: that's describing the symptom and not the root CAUSE.
This is where it becomes less clear for me but here goes a list of attitudes/causes I've observed and reflected upon:
1. Compensating - Person lacks feelings of power and strength in himself, is of slight build or overweight, average. Of course he knows that in an ideal situation he himself would have a perfect toned muscular body, but is unable or unwilling to try to obtain it. He can't fantasize about muscular guys of course - that would be (very) gay, and I suppose he could if he were gay, but that's another story - so in order to obtain his body without actually having to go to the gym, he feasts his eyes on images of girls with perfect bodies and thinks to himself "wow, that sure is perfect."
2. Submissive (possibly a subset of compensation??) - So many people with an interest in muscular women also have an interest in BDSM, specifically in the submissive and masochistic aspects of it (the domination and sadism, obviously, is left for the women). Again, the guy feels weak, average, normal, etc. and wants to experience strength vicariously through the woman whom he allows to torture him, defeat him in wrestling, etc. Basically, he views the situation as though from outside his body as a fly on the wall. He is gratified by knowing the woman's strength and superiority - he claims it for himself. The physical pain and resistance he feels he merely attributes back to her as a signal for what power/pain she can inflict. He, of course, probably couldn't, wouldn't, or shouldn't even try to hurt a fly in the real world.
3. Non-vicarious (exceedingly rare, probably not anyone reading this) - This would be like a male bodybuilder* or male athlete or something along those lines. For this guy, finding a truly superior chick is a necessity simply to find someone on his own level who can keep up and be an ideal perfect mate. A really good example of this is Deione Sanders and his wife Pilar (she's 6' tall, a model, and quite naturally fit and buff - in fact I should post some pics of her perhaps) - he has it all, so to settle for anything less would just lead to the woman being perpetually insecure and a crappy relationship - it must be this way for him. A guy like that does not need her to dominate him (she can't anyway), he doesn't need her to be muscular (has his own perfect body), and if anything, he's still the dominant one in the bedroom - generically speaking - or perhaps they take turns, who knows!
*Note: body types refer to archetypical examples - it's possible to get into shape and retain the skinny weakling mentality, or to be obese (having once been muscular, say, after an injury) and retain the confident non-vicarious dominant type.
Hopefully this doesn't come off as harsh or anything, but I think that's pretty accurate and scarily honest (considering I'm one of you). It sounds worse than it is - but basically you're either MOSTLY into being dominated, or MOSTLY into dominating, and I think for MOST guys with a muscular gal fetish, MOST of you lean towards the desire to be dominated and live vicariously (in this respect, at least) through the woman. It's not as bad as it sounds because the alternative is to fetishize your own dominance which pushed to extreme can lead to rape fantasies and other crazy stuff.
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32095
I personally don't care about what people think of my uploads, but I am disappointed to see the state of affairs when we have a black president and it's almost 2010 and people just HATE on others based on their race. C'mon people, grow up? It starts by appreciating the commonalities and aesthetic beauties, and then maybe you can appreciate other human beings as people.
And, on a more positive note, to those who LIKED that pic above...
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32100
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32052
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/imgpage.html?imgid=32059
...are also of her
I've not always loved muscles. With me, it started some time ago not as a fetish, but as general admiration of biological organisms - anything from a plant up to the most complex of all: the human body. This must've started around the age of 15 or so. I remember sitting in the biology classroom staring at one of those posters indicating all muscles of the human body, just in awe of its complexity. It is such a wonderful, astonishing piece of nature. From the moment this dawned on me, I started paying attention to what can be seen of these inner workings from the outside, e.g. when you can see tendons and muscles move around. Obviously, on a built, muscular body we can even better observe how the system works: how all individual muscles flex and relax to together form smooth movement of the body, or just from a picture, see the muscular structure of the human body.
So combining this awe I have for the biological shape with my innate love for women and their form (I trust that this needs no further substantiation), well... Here I am. And that's the theoretical explanation I have for my fetish.
Sorry if this sounded overly lyrical, I'm not usually like that. :p
I think he meant BettyBiceps.net
At a certain point you need to take the power back into your life. Get over the idea of being dominated and humiliated - that's taking pleasure in someone else's power and superiority - hence the "vicarious" comment. Instead, you gotta gain some power and respect in yourself if you expect to grow spiritually and find lasting happiness. No amount of cheap thrills or sadomasochism will amount to that.
99% of us have the humiliation gene which goes hand in hand with female muscle.deniers are liars.lets not judge others as their fantasies may be a bit different,there is no right or wrong.at least the dude asked and if that is not sublimating to him,who is to say he cant stay home and be weak? lots of muscle girls make lots of $ off these dudes.he is not dissing or hurting anyone else.
girls denote a younger more youthful appearance no matter the chrono age.
but what matters is we all admire April,she is the most incredible one here.if only we could grow more Aprils so all of us here have a chance with her! or her clones;)
http://classyartwork.com/images/superhero/green_girl_superhero.jpg
did you know angelina jolie can lift 800 lbs with each arm??!?!
WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxzgdvtA-AI
btw - i heard they are taking requests to defeat evil oppressors, so you should tell them who you want maimed/killed
Much more of Natasha at http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/member.php?uid=4772083&protype=1
I'm here for the natural women.
Her name is natasha truhina she is from russian and she's 18 ylo but look at her picture.
in just about 3 monthes she build up this muscles, she were training since she was 15 but when she became 18 she took steriods because if you saw her pic before 3 months she wasn't that huge pls she is youngest bodybuilder in the world.
pls if someone has a picturs about here recentily posted here and forgive me because my Eng is bad it's not my first language.