FV 12 - 1992 Ms. National Fitness Contest (Full Version)
At risk of being disappointed again, this page does show the 2-disc DVD set available, and is probably your best bet (not sure why it says "Finals only" when the description says it includes the prejudging and such, so one of those is wrong). Not sure which site you were looking at, but that shopify one is their current DVD store that has almost everything available.
2003 HerBiceps Armwrestling Tournament
Arnold Expo Bicep Curl Competition (DianeTheValkyrie)
For both of these your best first step might be to look at old archived versions of the pages to get an idea of what video filenames you're actually after.
Here's a likely index page for Herbiceps, you could check pages like the 2003 HerBiceps Dinner to see if the descriptions match:
It's not terribly well-organized as I'm sure you remember, and the videos you're talking about could be on any number of the yearly miscellaneous or specific contents pages. Some of the more specific ones that might be what you're looking for:
I should reiterate that the archive.org versions are just the index pages for the most part, and won't have actual video files available except for some of the free ones that didn't require a login, like these.
Someone out there has gotta have the abs and the ring video with danny j
As far as I know this is the first time you've asked about that, I know she had some videos on Femflex and such. With a description that vague, the best I can suggest is going to the DC++ Hub and doing a search for "dannyj" to see if you can find the ones you're looking for.
Just a fun "what if?" -type of thread. This could go a number of ways, but to me a GWM would spice up any scene in a movie! Action movies would probably be at the top of most users' minds, but this could be for any movie or TV show, regardless of genre.
This was inspired by the pic below, imagining her in the role of Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate" (especially in the iconic scene):
I post pics and vids of Barbara Carita and a lot of times they are met with very snarky comments about her appearance. Yes, she has had major breast enhancements and some plastic surgery/botox on her face, but her physique is incredible. Especially considering she is over 50 years old. I respect the hard work she has put into developing her physique and I respect her decisions regarding her appearance. Someone even edited her name on my post to “plastic trash”.
I love all women bodybuilders including Barbara Carita . would have thought any one who thought these women are big and scary would not even be on this site .
maybe they have never seen the inside of gym
there is a comedy outline script for a comedy she hulk movie . part of the comedy is about men bodybuilders trying to discredit womens bodybuilding shame it will never see production
The many Korean and Chinese girls (fbbs/fitness) who use face shrinking in photos. Some take it so far that it just looks ridiculous. Lookin like the Goombas from the old Super Mario movie.
Okay so... it breaks my heart to say this, but Love Lies Bleeding isn't good overall.
It has some positives:
* amazing visuals
* great soundtrack
* Katy O'Brien got pretty jacked. She flexes and shows it off a lot. She's very cute
* Kristin Stewart is cool
* Ed Harris is honestly pretty awesome.
But the negatives:
* Storyline is ridiculous
* Halfway through, Katy O'Brien goes into a strange junkie-like trans and loses all of her charisma and screen presence. It really sucks actually
* The ending is a mess
I honestly think that this formula (great visuals & music, awful storyline and conclusion) is pretty on-brand for A24. I've seen a lof of their movies and - to date - "Green Room" and "Talk to Me" are the only ones that I'd call good.
That said, if you go in for 80's music and Katy's biceps and visceral gunplay and one thousand year-old Ed Harris... then you'll find things tthat you enjoy. Just don't overthink it.
Saw it in the cinema. It was very disappointing with cliche upon cliche. A lesbian Bouquet Romance Novel.
Characters, storyline all super cliche and just dumb. In general A24 movies are quite good. But this.. meh..waste of my money
A) As other have noted, this is in no way something new. I remember reading an interview with Juliette Bergmann where she criticized Denise Masino for trying to fetishize the sport. This was the early 2000s, when pay sites like WPW were just starting. A lot of FBBs had their own sites with member only content. OF is just the newest version of this.
B) Women's weightlifting in mainstream culture has always been about sex appeal. "Flex Appeal" with Kiana Tom in the 90s was a fitness show with woman in bikinis. Cory Everson guest starred on Hercules in a chainmail bra. Magazines prominently featured fitness models on covers. Men have a degree of mainstream appeal thanks to 80s action movies and WWF. But women have always been treated as eye candy.
C) A sport about nearly nude oiled bodies on display for crowds is inherently sexual. One can still appreciate the work and dedication it takes. But no one is paying to see athletes in jeans and polos. It should come as no surprise that a sexy sport ends up being about sex.
Think about high levels of achievement with anything. Let's say, starting a company. Or becoming a prima ballerina. Or becoming a famous musician. There are people who become highly competitive achievers while maintaining a sense of balance and healthy human relationships, and then there are people who leave a trail of destruction, dysfunction, and broken hearts in their wake.
This happens across all endeavors.
The challenge we are actually discussing here is making healthy relationship choices. This transcends any high level of achievement a person might chase.
Bodybuilding (or whatever the focus may be) is incidental. Bodybuilders are not toxic relationship destroyers any more than people who want to be movie stars or tenured physics professors. Some people are toxic losers, and others are full of love and positive energy.
If you want a relationship, it's up to you to do the personal examination and the work to get ready for it. And if you want a relationship with a high achiever (of any type), start looking inward and ask if you have what it takes. In all cases, you're responsible for your own mental health and choosing a compatible person.
Stumbled across this upcoming movie featuring Emily Bett Rickards, Felicity Smoak in Arrow, and Deborah Ann Woll, Jessica in True Blood, both of whom are strong looking for actresses.
Queen of the Ring
The biopic of Mildred Burke, the first ever million dollar female athlete and champion pro-wrestler who pioneered the sport in a time when all girl wrestling was banned in most of America.
Every female bodybuilder I have ever seen is with a guy who's insanely roided out. Not like I got on a small dose to play a movie character but like on so much roids they look like they are barely breathing. Most are as wide as they are tall. Most of these female bodybuilders are a result of a steroid addict who was a trainer they met and got them on gear. These ladies basically date the dealer, like hot women in Miami date another type of dealer.
Recently saw this skinny girl get on gear, she became so sauced she was way more jacked then her chubby sedentary husband. Literally left the guy and her kids less than a year into marriage for a buff roid head, that's more common than you think.
Judging from nearly 2/3 of the votes being for 2024 and the best is yet to come, most of us love the huge, muscular Anastasia. Count me as being in that 2/3!!
It's hard to explain why I feel this way. She was so cute, bubbly and still very muscular, in her younger years. However, there is something about the enormous amount of muscle she is piling on while still seeming adorable, that is so captivating.
Like some fantasy movie, about a husband who keeps feeding a potion to his wife, because he loves female muscle, so much. She keeps growing, getting stronger, more and more muscular. Only in this case, it's happening in real life.
so basically there are 2 pieces of old media that i wanted to ask about but they are weird so i don't want to ask on reddit or other mainstream platforms one is an old movie involving no female muscle but some weird awkward femdom .the other one are old female muscle videos i just want to know about the background music since the videos are on youtube if you want to ask a similar question post below maybe i can help.
anyway for the old movie i don't remember much of these movie it was a horror movie from 1989 at least i think its from that year because of a copyright date on the tv guide if only i remembered the title. i am also not sure if it was supposed to be a parody since it looked very cheap and ridiculous. anyway the one scene i remember .was when a guy was about to have some kind of femdom sex with his wife who tied him up and blindfolded him but i don't remember why but the wife had to go away for a long time and then a ghost possessed a Barbie doll and the Barbie doll begins to fuck him but he thinks its his wife and then he gets killed by something but i don't really remember much quite strange. the only other part i remember was that they had a conversation about being married for 17 years before this scene but i thought that was odd since the actress looked young compared to the husband who was older. but i forgot everything else about this move and probably only watched the opening because i had to go to school or probably because my parents didn't want me to watch more of it .
if you have a question about old media you don't remember the name of but are too embarrassed to ask for on more mainstream sits please post it below maybe i or another user knows the answer
In the movie "Anaconda" about 2/3 thru there is a scene of JLo on the boat fixing her pony tail where her considerable biceps pops. This was like 10 years ago but I think she still has them!
yeah, J-Lo did look good in Anaconda. But your timeline is kinda off, that movie is over 25 years old. She was probably still in her late 20s then.
In the movie "Anaconda" about 2/3 thru there is a scene of JLo on the boat fixing her pony tail where her considerable biceps pops. This was like 10 years ago but I think she still has them!
yeah, J-Lo did look good in Anaconda. But your timeline is kinda off, that movie is over 25 years old. She was probably still in her late 20s then.
In the movie "Anaconda" about 2/3 thru there is a scene of JLo on the boat fixing her pony tail where her considerable biceps pops. This was like 10 years ago but I think she still has them!
However I can't imagine going back to the pre-youtube days. Despite all the noise it's an irreplaceable educational tool.
I can't help but feel we're past the zenith of the streaming age now. I miss the glory days when you could stream a massive back-catalog of good TV shows on Netflix. You could even get Bluray's by mail for the movies that were worth the extra bit-rate too! Now the content is balkanized with the recommender system neutered to cover it up, and I have to do funky things like putting an old Roku on a VLAN/VPN to my parents house to make use of the "family" plan. Plus they randomly limit you to 720p playback when they decide your hardware isn't good enough.
Will have to see if YouTube defeats the Ublock Origin + Sponsorblock combo / yt-dlp with this server side ad injection thing. I might actually be productive again for a few months until a workaround is found.
I think the fact that the highest votes are for the 2020's mean this poll has no validity 😂
Really the only good thing to come out of this last decade was the normalization of Work From Home. Hard to think of anything else that's been a bigger quality of life improvement than that. But it's a 2 tier economy right now, if you owned property/stock before you're doing really well now. If you were in the other half of the middle class that was demoted to working poor then it's been pretty awful.
However I can't imagine going back to the pre-youtube days. Despite all the noise it's an irreplaceable educational tool.
I agree with your take on online media. Even tho the world has become worse in a lot of ways over the last generation.. online media and networking has been a blessing.
It's blown apart the previous model of gatekeeping.. where only certain media outlets, publishers, and movie studios controlled almost all the media resources. It's cool that people can make their own content, and deliver it directly to the consumers instantly.
It seems lame looking back, remembering how only Siskel & Ebert, and a handful of newspaper critics controlled movie reviewing etc. They were usually pretentious geeks. I like hearing a cross-section of online reviewers now, with a variety of tastes.
70s had best movies 80s best music 90s best overall living. Things were simple, housing was still affordable, politics was boring and the economy roaring. Cellphones weren't ubiquitous and people had a better sense of independence and self reliance. Early internet was the wild west and most webpages were created by hobbyists yearning to share their passionate interests.
However I can't imagine going back to the pre-youtube days. Despite all the noise it's an irreplaceable educational tool.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to make this work in 2024. I loved American Gladiators, and it was very much an early conduit for my muscle attraction with both males and females.
But the show was a product of its time. It was on a network, options were limited, many of us watched the same thing, action movies were popular... lots of specific things.
These days.. as a streaming show.. I just don't see it commanding enough of an audience.
The OG American Gladiators was definitely a product of its time, but what also made it work was that while it was gaudy and cheesy, the majority of the show still focused on the action itself. The NBC revival was terrible because it was an overproduced mess. It was MOSTLY backstory drama to the point that it felt like the actual sporting events took a backseat to all of that and to Hogan being...Hogan. It's also why I don't watch American Ninja Warrior.
Maybe Amazon will do a better job of producing it, but if it's anything like the NBC revival I don't think it's gonna last.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to make this work in 2024. I loved American Gladiators, and it was very much an early conduit for my muscle attraction with both males and females.
But the show was a product of its time. It was on a network, options were limited, many of us watched the same thing, action movies were popular... lots of specific things.
These days.. as a streaming show.. I just don't see it commanding enough of an audience.
I mean it has worked for Netflix's Physical 100. Seeing athletic people compete in game shows still has a place in the market. Really depends on how the approach the material in the modern landscape is all.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to make this work in 2024. I loved American Gladiators, and it was very much an early conduit for my muscle attraction with both males and females.
But the show was a product of its time. It was on a network, options were limited, many of us watched the same thing, action movies were popular... lots of specific things.
These days.. as a streaming show.. I just don't see it commanding enough of an audience.
Getting VHS videos in the mail does seem like 100 years ago.
Crazy thing about those VHS classics.. In 1988, you were paying $45 for a single hard-copy video.. which would basically be equal to $120 in 2024 terms. It wasn't a cheap hobby, but definitely worth it.
As far as the original post.. fetishes were definitely more obscure before the 'web. Fetishes were often confined to specific magazines.. so if you weren't shopping in an adult store, you weren't seeing this stuff. It was rare to stumble upon specific fetishes. From time to time, an 80s or early 90s movie would reference unusual forms of sex, S&M, etc. But the internet really blew the lid off of quarantined fetishes..
I think I would slide the scale and pick 1995-2005.
Best of the early 2000s media and early good internet but a bit of the autonomy of not being 100% connected all the time. I still think those Wild West days of the internet were best because it hadn’t been taken over by big corps and even in muscle land you had multiple people doing the same thing with a diff flavor. Like having different creative sensibilities is nice
Aside from 9/11 there was a big feeling of optimism and growth and OPPORTUNITY. Still kind of a time where if you really wanted to leave and not be found you could do it (obviously positive and negative ends of this) and if you really wanted to leave part of your past behind you could do it and start fresh.
Things were still affordable. $10 regular could fill a tank when I was a kid. Movies were cheaper. Malls were still popular and there were generally more frequented “third spaces” for everyone that I think has turned digital these days.
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At risk of being disappointed again, this page does show the 2-disc DVD set available, and is probably your best bet (not sure why it says "Finals only" when the description says it includes the prejudging and such, so one of those is wrong). Not sure which site you were looking at, but that shopify one is their current DVD store that has almost everything available.
For both of these your best first step might be to look at old archived versions of the pages to get an idea of what video filenames you're actually after.
Here's a likely index page for Herbiceps, you could check pages like the 2003 HerBiceps Dinner to see if the descriptions match:
HerBiceps Event Coverage
DianeTheValkyrie is tougher, but here's the last version of their movies index page captured:
Diana the Valkyrie's Movie Theatre
It's not terribly well-organized as I'm sure you remember, and the videos you're talking about could be on any number of the yearly miscellaneous or specific contents pages. Some of the more specific ones that might be what you're looking for:
The Curl Challenge at the Arnold, 2002
Biceps contest at the Arnold, 2004
There's also the last resort of looking at the list of all video files that were on the site:
Diana the Valkyrie All the movies
I should reiterate that the archive.org versions are just the index pages for the most part, and won't have actual video files available except for some of the free ones that didn't require a login, like these.
As far as I know this is the first time you've asked about that, I know she had some videos on Femflex and such. With a description that vague, the best I can suggest is going to the DC++ Hub and doing a search for "dannyj" to see if you can find the ones you're looking for.
Just a fun "what if?" -type of thread. This could go a number of ways, but to me a GWM would spice up any scene in a movie! Action movies would probably be at the top of most users' minds, but this could be for any movie or TV show, regardless of genre.
This was inspired by the pic below, imagining her in the role of Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate" (especially in the iconic scene):
I love all women bodybuilders including Barbara Carita . would have thought any one who thought these women are big and scary would not even be on this site . maybe they have never seen the inside of gym
there is a comedy outline script for a comedy she hulk movie . part of the comedy is about men bodybuilders trying to discredit womens bodybuilding shame it will never see production
The many Korean and Chinese girls (fbbs/fitness) who use face shrinking in photos. Some take it so far that it just looks ridiculous. Lookin like the Goombas from the old Super Mario movie.
Okay so... it breaks my heart to say this, but Love Lies Bleeding isn't good overall.
It has some positives: * amazing visuals * great soundtrack * Katy O'Brien got pretty jacked. She flexes and shows it off a lot. She's very cute * Kristin Stewart is cool * Ed Harris is honestly pretty awesome.
But the negatives: * Storyline is ridiculous * Halfway through, Katy O'Brien goes into a strange junkie-like trans and loses all of her charisma and screen presence. It really sucks actually * The ending is a mess
I honestly think that this formula (great visuals & music, awful storyline and conclusion) is pretty on-brand for A24. I've seen a lof of their movies and - to date - "Green Room" and "Talk to Me" are the only ones that I'd call good.
That said, if you go in for 80's music and Katy's biceps and visceral gunplay and one thousand year-old Ed Harris... then you'll find things tthat you enjoy. Just don't overthink it.
are a24 movies good ? i only know about this one and civil war civil war was also a big fail
Saw it in the cinema. It was very disappointing with cliche upon cliche. A lesbian Bouquet Romance Novel. Characters, storyline all super cliche and just dumb. In general A24 movies are quite good. But this.. meh..waste of my money
A) As other have noted, this is in no way something new. I remember reading an interview with Juliette Bergmann where she criticized Denise Masino for trying to fetishize the sport. This was the early 2000s, when pay sites like WPW were just starting. A lot of FBBs had their own sites with member only content. OF is just the newest version of this.
B) Women's weightlifting in mainstream culture has always been about sex appeal. "Flex Appeal" with Kiana Tom in the 90s was a fitness show with woman in bikinis. Cory Everson guest starred on Hercules in a chainmail bra. Magazines prominently featured fitness models on covers. Men have a degree of mainstream appeal thanks to 80s action movies and WWF. But women have always been treated as eye candy.
C) A sport about nearly nude oiled bodies on display for crowds is inherently sexual. One can still appreciate the work and dedication it takes. But no one is paying to see athletes in jeans and polos. It should come as no surprise that a sexy sport ends up being about sex.
This.
Think about high levels of achievement with anything. Let's say, starting a company. Or becoming a prima ballerina. Or becoming a famous musician. There are people who become highly competitive achievers while maintaining a sense of balance and healthy human relationships, and then there are people who leave a trail of destruction, dysfunction, and broken hearts in their wake.
This happens across all endeavors.
The challenge we are actually discussing here is making healthy relationship choices. This transcends any high level of achievement a person might chase.
Bodybuilding (or whatever the focus may be) is incidental. Bodybuilders are not toxic relationship destroyers any more than people who want to be movie stars or tenured physics professors. Some people are toxic losers, and others are full of love and positive energy.
If you want a relationship, it's up to you to do the personal examination and the work to get ready for it. And if you want a relationship with a high achiever (of any type), start looking inward and ask if you have what it takes. In all cases, you're responsible for your own mental health and choosing a compatible person.
Stumbled across this upcoming movie featuring Emily Bett Rickards, Felicity Smoak in Arrow, and Deborah Ann Woll, Jessica in True Blood, both of whom are strong looking for actresses.
Queen of the Ring
The biopic of Mildred Burke, the first ever million dollar female athlete and champion pro-wrestler who pioneered the sport in a time when all girl wrestling was banned in most of America.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28070202/?ref_=n...
Every female bodybuilder I have ever seen is with a guy who's insanely roided out. Not like I got on a small dose to play a movie character but like on so much roids they look like they are barely breathing. Most are as wide as they are tall. Most of these female bodybuilders are a result of a steroid addict who was a trainer they met and got them on gear. These ladies basically date the dealer, like hot women in Miami date another type of dealer.
Recently saw this skinny girl get on gear, she became so sauced she was way more jacked then her chubby sedentary husband. Literally left the guy and her kids less than a year into marriage for a buff roid head, that's more common than you think.
Judging from nearly 2/3 of the votes being for 2024 and the best is yet to come, most of us love the huge, muscular Anastasia. Count me as being in that 2/3!!
It's hard to explain why I feel this way. She was so cute, bubbly and still very muscular, in her younger years. However, there is something about the enormous amount of muscle she is piling on while still seeming adorable, that is so captivating.
Like some fantasy movie, about a husband who keeps feeding a potion to his wife, because he loves female muscle, so much. She keeps growing, getting stronger, more and more muscular. Only in this case, it's happening in real life.
so basically there are 2 pieces of old media that i wanted to ask about but they are weird so i don't want to ask on reddit or other mainstream platforms one is an old movie involving no female muscle but some weird awkward femdom .the other one are old female muscle videos i just want to know about the background music since the videos are on youtube if you want to ask a similar question post below maybe i can help.
anyway for the old movie i don't remember much of these movie it was a horror movie from 1989 at least i think its from that year because of a copyright date on the tv guide if only i remembered the title. i am also not sure if it was supposed to be a parody since it looked very cheap and ridiculous. anyway the one scene i remember .was when a guy was about to have some kind of femdom sex with his wife who tied him up and blindfolded him but i don't remember why but the wife had to go away for a long time and then a ghost possessed a Barbie doll and the Barbie doll begins to fuck him but he thinks its his wife and then he gets killed by something but i don't really remember much quite strange. the only other part i remember was that they had a conversation about being married for 17 years before this scene but i thought that was odd since the actress looked young compared to the husband who was older. but i forgot everything else about this move and probably only watched the opening because i had to go to school or probably because my parents didn't want me to watch more of it .
my 2nd questions is simpler i want to know what the name of the background music is in these old videos because i like the style and i always wondered were i could find more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmL9aEEtw1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdFFPZADsPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChEKhaLqtc
if you have a question about old media you don't remember the name of but are too embarrassed to ask for on more mainstream sits please post it below maybe i or another user knows the answer
This could also belong in places like the cartoons thread. If you can count kids, one obvious one is Pippi Longstocking.
In the movie at least, the actress even resembles at least one actual FBB, Susan Gafner.
Jennifer Lopez (1969) in Anaconda (1997)
yeah, J-Lo did look good in Anaconda. But your timeline is kinda off, that movie is over 25 years old. She was probably still in her late 20s then.
In the movie "Anaconda" about 2/3 thru there is a scene of JLo on the boat fixing her pony tail where her considerable biceps pops. This was like 10 years ago but I think she still has them!
I can't help but feel we're past the zenith of the streaming age now. I miss the glory days when you could stream a massive back-catalog of good TV shows on Netflix. You could even get Bluray's by mail for the movies that were worth the extra bit-rate too! Now the content is balkanized with the recommender system neutered to cover it up, and I have to do funky things like putting an old Roku on a VLAN/VPN to my parents house to make use of the "family" plan. Plus they randomly limit you to 720p playback when they decide your hardware isn't good enough.
Will have to see if YouTube defeats the Ublock Origin + Sponsorblock combo / yt-dlp with this server side ad injection thing. I might actually be productive again for a few months until a workaround is found.
Really the only good thing to come out of this last decade was the normalization of Work From Home. Hard to think of anything else that's been a bigger quality of life improvement than that. But it's a 2 tier economy right now, if you owned property/stock before you're doing really well now. If you were in the other half of the middle class that was demoted to working poor then it's been pretty awful.
I agree with your take on online media. Even tho the world has become worse in a lot of ways over the last generation.. online media and networking has been a blessing. It's blown apart the previous model of gatekeeping.. where only certain media outlets, publishers, and movie studios controlled almost all the media resources. It's cool that people can make their own content, and deliver it directly to the consumers instantly.
It seems lame looking back, remembering how only Siskel & Ebert, and a handful of newspaper critics controlled movie reviewing etc. They were usually pretentious geeks. I like hearing a cross-section of online reviewers now, with a variety of tastes.
70s had best movies 80s best music 90s best overall living. Things were simple, housing was still affordable, politics was boring and the economy roaring. Cellphones weren't ubiquitous and people had a better sense of independence and self reliance. Early internet was the wild west and most webpages were created by hobbyists yearning to share their passionate interests.
However I can't imagine going back to the pre-youtube days. Despite all the noise it's an irreplaceable educational tool.
The OG American Gladiators was definitely a product of its time, but what also made it work was that while it was gaudy and cheesy, the majority of the show still focused on the action itself. The NBC revival was terrible because it was an overproduced mess. It was MOSTLY backstory drama to the point that it felt like the actual sporting events took a backseat to all of that and to Hogan being...Hogan. It's also why I don't watch American Ninja Warrior.
Maybe Amazon will do a better job of producing it, but if it's anything like the NBC revival I don't think it's gonna last.
I mean it has worked for Netflix's Physical 100. Seeing athletic people compete in game shows still has a place in the market. Really depends on how the approach the material in the modern landscape is all.
Man.. IDK.
I don't think it's possible for anyone to make this work in 2024. I loved American Gladiators, and it was very much an early conduit for my muscle attraction with both males and females.
But the show was a product of its time. It was on a network, options were limited, many of us watched the same thing, action movies were popular... lots of specific things.
These days.. as a streaming show.. I just don't see it commanding enough of an audience.
Crazy thing about those VHS classics.. In 1988, you were paying $45 for a single hard-copy video.. which would basically be equal to $120 in 2024 terms. It wasn't a cheap hobby, but definitely worth it.
As far as the original post.. fetishes were definitely more obscure before the 'web. Fetishes were often confined to specific magazines.. so if you weren't shopping in an adult store, you weren't seeing this stuff. It was rare to stumble upon specific fetishes. From time to time, an 80s or early 90s movie would reference unusual forms of sex, S&M, etc. But the internet really blew the lid off of quarantined fetishes..
I think I would slide the scale and pick 1995-2005.
Best of the early 2000s media and early good internet but a bit of the autonomy of not being 100% connected all the time. I still think those Wild West days of the internet were best because it hadn’t been taken over by big corps and even in muscle land you had multiple people doing the same thing with a diff flavor. Like having different creative sensibilities is nice
Aside from 9/11 there was a big feeling of optimism and growth and OPPORTUNITY. Still kind of a time where if you really wanted to leave and not be found you could do it (obviously positive and negative ends of this) and if you really wanted to leave part of your past behind you could do it and start fresh.
Things were still affordable. $10 regular could fill a tank when I was a kid. Movies were cheaper. Malls were still popular and there were generally more frequented “third spaces” for everyone that I think has turned digital these days.