Remember that also all super hero movie stars are on ped, there is no way they can get massive in just 6 month with a good coach and diet. And if they were to take ped's that would be high quality. So i guess the average fbb can't afford the top of the line products while super stars can
Almost all actors doing it are on short cycles of 8 weeks, medically supervised so most probably on testosterone only. Smokes and mirrors does the rest. Any BB would put them to shame if they stand next to them. Their PED usage is very light by BB standards.
The Rock or Arnold at his prime are obviously not on T only. Arnold was asked to downsize for his role in Conan. He was deemed too freakish.
No engineering is being done these days. The anabolic steroid technology has stopped back in the 80s. Big pharma stopped researching and producing new compounds. Politics, banning and the abuse from the sports community were the main reasons.
Any new developments had to do with the infamous Balco Labs, 20 years ago, that produced a couple of variants that were just a compromise to avoid detection in the WADA tests. SARMs is something really new but not superior or safer than regular anabolics. And they are already banned by WADA.
Contrary to what people believe usage in sports was pretty straight forward and really simple. Athletes would use one compound in some simple dosage scheme. The East Germans who were the top in that field pretty much used only Turinabol for the thousands of their athletes.
Bodybuilders are the true prolific users and abusers. Using crazy dosages, crazy combinations, stacking and never ending "cycles". I am surprised so few people are dying counting the fact that most of these compounds are black market with no safety regulation during production. What some women are doing to their body is mind boggling, in my book they have mental health problems.
Even if a safer PED was produced it would certainly be weak for use in BB and people would still use more and longer making again unsafe. This is what happened to the older drugs that were meant as a safe temporary solution for sick people. People know what safe is but you can't win competitions.
Remember that also all super hero movie stars are on ped, there is no way they can get massive in just 6 month with a good coach and diet. And if they were to take ped's that would be high quality. So i guess the average fbb can't afford the top of the line products while super stars can
I remember when the Ang Lee Hulk movie came out, a lot of people laughed at how unnaturally green the Hulk was. Like, the shade of an ugly polyester suit green. An obviously long-suffering VFX artist finally took it upon himself to reveal that it wasn't the CGI dept, it wasn't Ang Lee, but some nameless suit at the upper levels of production who kept saying, "Make him GREEEENER!" For some reason, I keep thinking of that poor artist every time I see Marvel CGI. Yes, the artists CAN work miracles, but they're at the mercy of the suits.
I've seen the first trailer of She hulk the other day is it meant to be a comedy? It looks kinda of cheap looking at one point the Benny Hill music could have started up might been better if it had. Is it trying to be ironic and hip. Maybe they should try the Bionic woman idea again Maybe someone with more experience than a soap star!
tonally Marvel stuff isn't serious. last "serious" thing they did was Thor: Dark World and it didn't do very well comparatively, so they've stuck with the lighter stuff, or I guess you could say the last Doctor Strange movie was the most different they've done.
off topic to this thread but you'll have to see what they do with Daredevil, which already has a history of being pretty serious overall, and then Deadpool, which is R rated, so see if they break out of the mold.
I doubt She-Hulk will be any different from any of the shows they've been churning out in terms of tone.
Also Tatiana Maslany is a VERY good actress and did a wonderful job with Orphan Black, which was explicitly very serious and dark, so i hope her acting chops won't be wasted delivering ill-timed quips, especially since she's a lawyer, and She Hulk runs have had some very good dramatic parts
> How are you defining quality regarding commenting on this site? The definition seems arbitrary to me...
An easy way to approach the issue is to list as many comments as possible that are not quality comments. Then list as many as possible that are. Then draw the line somewhere in between.
Still people keep saying that the problem is offensiveness. My money is on some form of inanity instead. Inane comments outnumber offensive comments at least ten to one.
I remember fondly when I and the guys thought of Fight Club as an exploration into lost masculinity. Well, it kinda is. I later found out that it's an allegory of gay culture. But that's far more obvious in the book than in the movie.
Then the criteria for "quality" should be made explicit before people post. The definition of "quality" is still arbitrary. In fact, if any more of my comments get rejected I will stop using this site and transfer to a competitor. This kind of thing is far better regulated by a human being since we are all human beings using this website and are commenting, subjectively in response to images that have aesthetic appeal. How is that measurable by some clunky, AI bot?
Female bodybuilders becoming mainstream will never happen.
Bodybuilding is a niche sport, as is every other strength sport. Male bodybuilders don't have mainstream appeal, and yet they get far more exposure and have far more fans than female bodybuilders do. You have the exception like Arnold Schwarzenegger who is both successful in bodybuilding and Hollywood, but that is not the norm.
HelloHotBeef suggests that Hollywood cast more of them in movies, but you have to realize that while we are very attracted to buff women, the majority of the populace aren't. It's the same reason why you see very few fat men and women succeed in the industry (and yes, I know there are exceptions.) Also, acting is a skill, and is probably one of the skills that looks the easiest to the viewer, but is the hardest to execute well. Part of the reason Arnold was so successful when he got his start was because as the Terminator, he had very little dialogue. Nothing against the female bodybuilders I have seen in movies, but almost all of them had very mediocre acting abilities, and if someone like me who was barely able to watch those movies because I am physically attracted to them, the majority who aren't into them won't be clamoring to see them.
There's also the issue of supply. Part of the reason that there are so few female bodybuilders is, in addition to how much work it takes along with the drug use, the majority of women simply have no desire to be that muscular. Think about all the women who are afraid to lift anything heavier than a 5 lb dumbbell because they "don't want to get bulky." You can't make something mainstream if there are few participants for it.
And going back to what the masses (in this case, hetero men) find attractive, think about all the popular fitness models (like 1 mil+ followers on Instagram.) While they have muscle, they are still very petite, have blond hair, conventional facial features and still look like your average runway model, except with a little more muscle and muscular definition. I do think more people are finding strong women attractive, and I have been seeing more women in the weight room and taking up strength sports. But they are still in the minority, and in terms of getting as big and ripped as a bodybuilder (category-wise), it's even less so. Hell, you can even make the argument that women's bodybuilding has gone down in popularity with many organizations and competitions downright eliminating the bodybuilding category. And when you look at competition rosters and see, like, 4 or 5 competitors in Women's Physique, and over two dozen for bikini, it tells you all you need to know.
Female bodybuilders becoming mainstream will never happen.
Bodybuilding is a niche sport, as is every other strength sport. Male bodybuilders don't have mainstream appeal, and yet they get far more exposure and have far more fans than female bodybuilders do. You have the exception like Arnold Schwarzenegger who is both successful in bodybuilding and Hollywood, but that is not the norm.
HelloHotBeef suggests that Hollywood cast more of them in movies, but you have to realize that while we are very attracted to buff women, the majority of the populace aren't. It's the same reason why you see very few fat men and women succeed in the industry (and yes, I know there are exceptions.) Also, acting is a skill, and is probably one of the skills that looks the easiest to the viewer, but is the hardest to execute well. Part of the reason Arnold was so successful when he got his start was because as the Terminator, he had very little dialogue. Nothing against the female bodybuilders I have seen in movies, but almost all of them had very mediocre acting abilities, and if someone like me who was barely able to watch those movies because I am physically attracted to them, the majority who aren't into them won't be clamoring to see them.
There's also the issue of supply. Part of the reason that there are so few female bodybuilders is, in addition to how much work it takes along with the drug use, the majority of women simply have no desire to be that muscular. Think about all the women who are afraid to lift anything heavier than a 5 lb dumbbell because they "don't want to get bulky." You can't make something mainstream if there are few participants for it.
And going back to what the masses (in this case, hetero men) find attractive, think about all the popular fitness models (like 1 mil+ followers on Instagram.) While they have muscle, they are still very petite, have blond hair, conventional facial features and still look like your average runway model, except with a little more muscle and muscular definition. I do think more people are finding strong women attractive, and I have been seeing more women in the weight room and taking up strength sports. But they are still in the minority, and in terms of getting as big and ripped as a bodybuilder (category-wise), it's even less so. Hell, you can even make the argument that women's bodybuilding has gone down in popularity with many organizations and competitions downright eliminating the bodybuilding category. And when you look at competition rosters and see, like, 4 or 5 competitors in Women's Physique, and over two dozen for bikini, it tells you all you need to know.
I will be very honest and opinionated about making female bodybuilding mainstream.
It will not happen anytime soon. Female bodybuilding is still a niche thing because bodybuilding is mostly a male oriented sport and people recognize bodybuilders as being male not female. They can get noticed or try to be noticed on Instagram or any other social media sites but the thing is that they are still way below men. Internet was not a thing in the 70's and 80's and yet a lot of male bodybuilders got noticed due to documentaries back in the day, magazines, and other material. Women were hardly a part of that because they were not accepted or hardly accepted. FBB's back looked hot back in the day but they were just eye candy for males to hold onto during a photoshoot for magazines and other materials. For women now it's just a few promotional spots for supplements, clothing, and a few other things here and there. Nothing huge or big that will make a lot money.
Hollywood will not pay a female bodybuilder who is roided up a huge sum of money to act in their films. Once female bodybuilders open their mouths and that deep roid voice comes out it's all over. The only female bodybuilders that I know of that have made a good jump to mainstream are Raye Hollit, Sue Price, and Joanie Laurer (Chyna from WWF). Chyna died years ago (breaking my heart). Sue Price and Raye Hollit are still alive and probably still making money off of royalties from Nemesis, Skin Deep,and others that they starred in due to probably signing a Screen Actors Guild contract (SAG). Same with Chyna.
But I don't see Sarah Hayes, Amazonka, Lindsay Mulinazzi, Stephanie Flesher, Andrea Shaw, and others appear in shows, movies, and more. Unless they are told to slim down a lot and fix their voice through a voice doctor or voice coach.
The only mainstream material that they can be a part of is documentaries about bodybuilding, talks shows (if there's any nowadays), competitions, adult films, and more importantly social media. That's all.
I love female bodybuilders so much. And I'm not trying to disrespect them in anyway. I'm just being very honest.
Put them in popular movies, and show that female bodybuilders can be attractive and feminine. That's what's working on social media, anyway. This might be a double-edged sword, though. When something gets popular, it tends to lose most of its charm that appealed to the niche audience that liked it in the first place. I don't know if websites like this could thrive if female bodybuilding became mainstream.
Not a movie, but the actress Paolla Oliveira is almost always sleeveless or with tight clothing at the brazilian soap opera Cara e Coragem, which airs everyday except sunday around 7:30pm here in Brazil (UTC -3) at the Globo channel.
Also, Milla Jovovich is Resident Evil 2. Sadly, this was the ONLY movie of the franchise in which she had a respectable amount of muscle. In all others (both before and after), there is nothing left to be seen :(
I don't know much details right now but Wendy Fortino, Merica Abbado, and a few others will be part of a major feature film revolving around bodybuilding. Obviously much can't be said now but more details will be released in the coming weeks and months.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how many times I've heard something like this. If the project is ever finished, it rarely turns out the way it was originally planned. And many times people will back out or are unable to come to an agreement on compensation, or their schedules don't coincide.
A recent example of this is the movie "I Am the Tigress." The casting trailer has the director mentioning all kinds of names, including but not limited to Alina Popa, Lenda Murray, Iris Kyle, Irene Andersen. However, he ended up casting Tischa Thomas in the end, who wasn't even mentioned in this casting trailer.
Actress Katy O'Brian will be in the movie. No word on who she's playing, but it's safe to say she's Kristen Stewart's bodybuilding beau.
Katy is a good casting choice just by judging the pics posted on this website she has a good enough muscular body to do the role. To me she should get at least 25 pounds of muscle mass on her to get that physique of a female bodybuilder. Be more authentic to the role.
I think it's super interesting that in this past year, we had buff Natalie Portman for the new Thor movie, and the She-Hulk series both come out almost simultaneously. I don't think people fully realize the effect this will have in influencing how the culture sees female muscle.
It always seemed to be a sub-culture in its own little corner of the world, while society always had a "don't ask don't tell" attitude towards it. At least that's my own opinion, maybe I'm over analyzing. But nonetheless, we've never seen a major female actor put on that amount of muscle for a role, and everyone is talking about it and they actually like it! What does this say about a possible shifting 'new normal' standard for beauty that might be upon us?
I mean think about it, in the renaissance period and even after then, being fat and plump was the beauty standard, then at the turn of the century, peaking in the 20's, super slim pole-like body was the standard, then in the 50's more full figured was the standard, now it feels like we're shifting again, but toward what? Is it just me?
It's just you . Confirmation bias. Some of us were there in the 80s and 90s which seemed more of a Golden Age of femuscle/fitness in the mainstream/Hollywood/magazine worlds , at least where you know where to look. Since then we've actually regressed in my opinion in terms of mainstream acceptance.
Citing Portman is a joke, Plenty of actresses have been more buff for roles. She isnt't.
The internet now allows us to follow similar tastes and access our interests immediately , but it is still niche.
All of the examples so far have been constrained to Hollywood. What about social media and internet as a cultural shift?
A person does not need to go to the movies to see examples of muscular women. Sites like this are not hard to find either.
Do consider, that we humans are tribal creatures. Yes, it is always helpful to see an example of something as possible. A very small minority of people will then try to achieve the possible. However, a greater majority of people will think to themselves, mostly unconsciously, “that person is of a different tribe.” Consider concert pianists, or Olympic athletes, or elite performers of any type. How often do you look at them and think, “now that I have seen that, I will go do it.” Highly unlikely.
Social science shows, again and again, people tend to be most similar to those friends they spend the most time with. That’s their tribe. It is just that simple.
I think it's super interesting that in this past year, we had buff Natalie Portman for the new Thor movie, and the She-Hulk series both come out almost simultaneously. I don't think people fully realize the effect this will have in influencing how the culture sees female muscle.
It always seemed to be a sub-culture in its own little corner of the world, while society always had a "don't ask don't tell" attitude towards it. At least that's my own opinion, maybe I'm over analyzing. But nonetheless, we've never seen a major female actor put on that amount of muscle for a role, and everyone is talking about it and they actually like it! What does this say about a possible shifting 'new normal' standard for beauty that might be upon us?
I mean think about it, in the renaissance period and even after then, being fat and plump was the beauty standard, then at the turn of the century, peaking in the 20's, super slim pole-like body was the standard, then in the 50's more full figured was the standard, now it feels like we're shifting again, but toward what? Is it just me?
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Hannah Waddingham is hot... ted lasso as well though i must of not recognized her on g.o.t........ now off to find Not Going Out'
..ive found she is in ..series 4 episode 3 'movie'
Elizabeth Shue...tomboy since a kid..one of her brothers died when she was young. she could probably do a bit of gymnastics as a teen too.
Almost all actors doing it are on short cycles of 8 weeks, medically supervised so most probably on testosterone only. Smokes and mirrors does the rest. Any BB would put them to shame if they stand next to them. Their PED usage is very light by BB standards.
The Rock or Arnold at his prime are obviously not on T only. Arnold was asked to downsize for his role in Conan. He was deemed too freakish.
Remember that also all super hero movie stars are on ped, there is no way they can get massive in just 6 month with a good coach and diet. And if they were to take ped's that would be high quality. So i guess the average fbb can't afford the top of the line products while super stars can
thank you special the in a tight shirt
Do you have the movie
I remember when the Ang Lee Hulk movie came out, a lot of people laughed at how unnaturally green the Hulk was. Like, the shade of an ugly polyester suit green. An obviously long-suffering VFX artist finally took it upon himself to reveal that it wasn't the CGI dept, it wasn't Ang Lee, but some nameless suit at the upper levels of production who kept saying, "Make him GREEEENER!" For some reason, I keep thinking of that poor artist every time I see Marvel CGI. Yes, the artists CAN work miracles, but they're at the mercy of the suits.
tonally Marvel stuff isn't serious. last "serious" thing they did was Thor: Dark World and it didn't do very well comparatively, so they've stuck with the lighter stuff, or I guess you could say the last Doctor Strange movie was the most different they've done.
off topic to this thread but you'll have to see what they do with Daredevil, which already has a history of being pretty serious overall, and then Deadpool, which is R rated, so see if they break out of the mold.
I doubt She-Hulk will be any different from any of the shows they've been churning out in terms of tone.
Also Tatiana Maslany is a VERY good actress and did a wonderful job with Orphan Black, which was explicitly very serious and dark, so i hope her acting chops won't be wasted delivering ill-timed quips, especially since she's a lawyer, and She Hulk runs have had some very good dramatic parts
Hello again there muscle fans
Where can you download this movie of debby bramwell?
Then the criteria for "quality" should be made explicit before people post. The definition of "quality" is still arbitrary. In fact, if any more of my comments get rejected I will stop using this site and transfer to a competitor. This kind of thing is far better regulated by a human being since we are all human beings using this website and are commenting, subjectively in response to images that have aesthetic appeal. How is that measurable by some clunky, AI bot?
nice biceps, shit movie lol
Totally agree with everything that you said here.
Female bodybuilders becoming mainstream will never happen.
Bodybuilding is a niche sport, as is every other strength sport. Male bodybuilders don't have mainstream appeal, and yet they get far more exposure and have far more fans than female bodybuilders do. You have the exception like Arnold Schwarzenegger who is both successful in bodybuilding and Hollywood, but that is not the norm.
HelloHotBeef suggests that Hollywood cast more of them in movies, but you have to realize that while we are very attracted to buff women, the majority of the populace aren't. It's the same reason why you see very few fat men and women succeed in the industry (and yes, I know there are exceptions.) Also, acting is a skill, and is probably one of the skills that looks the easiest to the viewer, but is the hardest to execute well. Part of the reason Arnold was so successful when he got his start was because as the Terminator, he had very little dialogue. Nothing against the female bodybuilders I have seen in movies, but almost all of them had very mediocre acting abilities, and if someone like me who was barely able to watch those movies because I am physically attracted to them, the majority who aren't into them won't be clamoring to see them.
There's also the issue of supply. Part of the reason that there are so few female bodybuilders is, in addition to how much work it takes along with the drug use, the majority of women simply have no desire to be that muscular. Think about all the women who are afraid to lift anything heavier than a 5 lb dumbbell because they "don't want to get bulky." You can't make something mainstream if there are few participants for it.
And going back to what the masses (in this case, hetero men) find attractive, think about all the popular fitness models (like 1 mil+ followers on Instagram.) While they have muscle, they are still very petite, have blond hair, conventional facial features and still look like your average runway model, except with a little more muscle and muscular definition. I do think more people are finding strong women attractive, and I have been seeing more women in the weight room and taking up strength sports. But they are still in the minority, and in terms of getting as big and ripped as a bodybuilder (category-wise), it's even less so. Hell, you can even make the argument that women's bodybuilding has gone down in popularity with many organizations and competitions downright eliminating the bodybuilding category. And when you look at competition rosters and see, like, 4 or 5 competitors in Women's Physique, and over two dozen for bikini, it tells you all you need to know.
I will be very honest and opinionated about making female bodybuilding mainstream.
It will not happen anytime soon. Female bodybuilding is still a niche thing because bodybuilding is mostly a male oriented sport and people recognize bodybuilders as being male not female. They can get noticed or try to be noticed on Instagram or any other social media sites but the thing is that they are still way below men. Internet was not a thing in the 70's and 80's and yet a lot of male bodybuilders got noticed due to documentaries back in the day, magazines, and other material. Women were hardly a part of that because they were not accepted or hardly accepted. FBB's back looked hot back in the day but they were just eye candy for males to hold onto during a photoshoot for magazines and other materials. For women now it's just a few promotional spots for supplements, clothing, and a few other things here and there. Nothing huge or big that will make a lot money.
Hollywood will not pay a female bodybuilder who is roided up a huge sum of money to act in their films. Once female bodybuilders open their mouths and that deep roid voice comes out it's all over. The only female bodybuilders that I know of that have made a good jump to mainstream are Raye Hollit, Sue Price, and Joanie Laurer (Chyna from WWF). Chyna died years ago (breaking my heart). Sue Price and Raye Hollit are still alive and probably still making money off of royalties from Nemesis, Skin Deep,and others that they starred in due to probably signing a Screen Actors Guild contract (SAG). Same with Chyna. But I don't see Sarah Hayes, Amazonka, Lindsay Mulinazzi, Stephanie Flesher, Andrea Shaw, and others appear in shows, movies, and more. Unless they are told to slim down a lot and fix their voice through a voice doctor or voice coach. The only mainstream material that they can be a part of is documentaries about bodybuilding, talks shows (if there's any nowadays), competitions, adult films, and more importantly social media. That's all.
I love female bodybuilders so much. And I'm not trying to disrespect them in anyway. I'm just being very honest.
Put them in popular movies, and show that female bodybuilders can be attractive and feminine. That's what's working on social media, anyway. This might be a double-edged sword, though. When something gets popular, it tends to lose most of its charm that appealed to the niche audience that liked it in the first place. I don't know if websites like this could thrive if female bodybuilding became mainstream.
Great thread topic
Micaela Viscido is the most offensive. Such a great body,, terrible photos
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/1777248/ https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/1806604/ https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/1810726/
Fernanda Melo is awesome, would love to see her in an Awefilms styled movie
Cerra Areida
Not a movie, but the actress Paolla Oliveira is almost always sleeveless or with tight clothing at the brazilian soap opera Cara e Coragem, which airs everyday except sunday around 7:30pm here in Brazil (UTC -3) at the Globo channel.
Also, Milla Jovovich is Resident Evil 2. Sadly, this was the ONLY movie of the franchise in which she had a respectable amount of muscle. In all others (both before and after), there is nothing left to be seen :(
Unfortunately I can't tell you how many times I've heard something like this. If the project is ever finished, it rarely turns out the way it was originally planned. And many times people will back out or are unable to come to an agreement on compensation, or their schedules don't coincide.
A recent example of this is the movie "I Am the Tigress." The casting trailer has the director mentioning all kinds of names, including but not limited to Alina Popa, Lenda Murray, Iris Kyle, Irene Andersen. However, he ended up casting Tischa Thomas in the end, who wasn't even mentioned in this casting trailer.
Katy is a good casting choice just by judging the pics posted on this website she has a good enough muscular body to do the role. To me she should get at least 25 pounds of muscle mass on her to get that physique of a female bodybuilder. Be more authentic to the role.
Actress Katy O'Brian will be in the movie. No word on who she's playing, but it's safe to say she's Kristen Stewart's bodybuilding beau.
Actress from movies
There seems to be a growing trend of female bodybuilder movies about competing. Kristen Stewart’s might end up being the most popular one.
It's just you . Confirmation bias. Some of us were there in the 80s and 90s which seemed more of a Golden Age of femuscle/fitness in the mainstream/Hollywood/magazine worlds , at least where you know where to look. Since then we've actually regressed in my opinion in terms of mainstream acceptance. Citing Portman is a joke, Plenty of actresses have been more buff for roles. She isnt't.
The internet now allows us to follow similar tastes and access our interests immediately , but it is still niche.
All of the examples so far have been constrained to Hollywood. What about social media and internet as a cultural shift?
A person does not need to go to the movies to see examples of muscular women. Sites like this are not hard to find either.
Do consider, that we humans are tribal creatures. Yes, it is always helpful to see an example of something as possible. A very small minority of people will then try to achieve the possible. However, a greater majority of people will think to themselves, mostly unconsciously, “that person is of a different tribe.” Consider concert pianists, or Olympic athletes, or elite performers of any type. How often do you look at them and think, “now that I have seen that, I will go do it.” Highly unlikely.
Social science shows, again and again, people tend to be most similar to those friends they spend the most time with. That’s their tribe. It is just that simple.
I think it's super interesting that in this past year, we had buff Natalie Portman for the new Thor movie, and the She-Hulk series both come out almost simultaneously. I don't think people fully realize the effect this will have in influencing how the culture sees female muscle.
It always seemed to be a sub-culture in its own little corner of the world, while society always had a "don't ask don't tell" attitude towards it. At least that's my own opinion, maybe I'm over analyzing. But nonetheless, we've never seen a major female actor put on that amount of muscle for a role, and everyone is talking about it and they actually like it! What does this say about a possible shifting 'new normal' standard for beauty that might be upon us?
I mean think about it, in the renaissance period and even after then, being fat and plump was the beauty standard, then at the turn of the century, peaking in the 20's, super slim pole-like body was the standard, then in the 50's more full figured was the standard, now it feels like we're shifting again, but toward what? Is it just me?
Where can i watch the full movie? Does anyone know?