I put about as much value and interest in a FBB's political views as I put into an actor's:

None.

Same. As long as they aren't out there killing baby seals I'm strictly live and let live. I don't know anyone's political views and I rather keep it that way.

I put about as much value and interest in a FBB's political views as I put into an actor's:

None.

I've found a BIG difference between "people I like to look at" and "people I'd like to talk to about their socio-political views" in my life, so why should bodybuilding be any different? I'm just embarrassed for them, as if they somehow don't realize people are following them because of their body, and think we actually care about them as people.

We’ve been training for 6 months

Does she has all in the biceps or also calves, quads.. ?

I've literally never thought about FBB's and their political views. Its amazing how correlated physical strength (or physical improvement?) is linked to "right wing" views.

I suspect that there is no correlation between strength training and political views. In other words, "bodybuilder" is not a demographic that can be politically defined. Bodybuilders probably come from all political demographics that has more to do with their personal backgrounds than their muscle-building.

I also suspect that the reason why it seems like there are more rightwing bodybuilders to people is just because the rightwingers are most vocal about their politics. I'd personally prefer not to know any FBB's political views.

I've literally never thought about FBB's and their political views. Its amazing how correlated physical strength (or physical improvement?) is linked to "right wing" views.

What I also realized: getting huge and muscular is easy. I did it in parallel to getting a PhD and then working a 60h Wall Street job. It just takes time and dedication. The supplement and nutrition part can be understood by a toddler. It is one of the few endeavours where lower IQ people can be as or more successful than smarter people.

Mmkay

Cute biceps, does she train or this is natural ?

We’ve been training for 6 months

I prefer centrist fbbs and people in general.

> I don't know anything about these girls politics, and that's not why I am here to look at pictures and videos girls. I am surprised that so many of you do. And I think it is lazy to blame "the patriarchy" as the reason independent minded women decide to improve themselves. That being said...I dislike Female Bodybuilders who espouse leftist views. I can't think of one in particular, but one has to exist.

LOL when you find a leftist Female Bodybuilder can you PLEASE send her my way. We're all trying to find her!!!

Seconded. There’s a few I know of who are left-leaning if anything.

Juli Kiss!

Brissa Allen...oh wait, she did open one, but she only ever made one post, quickly deleted it, and never logged on again, robbing dudes that had subbed lol

For anyone who doesn't keep up to date with her Instagram story:

• She is definitely in hospital for at least one heart attack
• She is up and walking around though, although needs an IV bag (I assume, I'm not a doctor)

An's Instagram profile

(I apologize for the image quality, I had to translate with my phone)

Megan avalon

Hailey McGrath

I don't know where you're from, but here in the U.S. facts mean nothing, especially if they go against ones beliefs or what one wants to believe.

That said, there are facts here...

1) According to her own social media, she suffered a heart attack. (maybe she was hacked)

2) Just a little over a week ago she competed in The Olympia. (perhaps it was a doppelganger)

3) To compete at this high a level man or woman you have to be on PED's and more. And the more mass a particular division requires generally the more you're using. (but maybe she's a genetic freak and is all natural)

Let us know when it's alright to comment on the facts.

Thank you for laying it out for me. You may comment on facts now at your convenience, LOL. I look forward to hearing updates on how An's doing.

Jasmine Johnson another one

Cute biceps, does she train or this is natural ?

Diana Ionela

Used to go by yourfantasy and t33ngirl18

Anyone know if she’s still active?

TL;DR That politics bother most of us isn't a coincidence, it's because today's politics speak to core values. Also, bodybuilding is expensive, but right-wingers today tend to be lower-income and lower-education (surveys consistenly show the latter), and that aligns with a lot of bodybuilders.

I share the sentiment that the super right-wing views that many FBBs seem so excited to share is the most annoying thing of substance. That word, substance, is why I think the topic trended in that direction and stayed there. A lot of the other things are pet peeves, or entirely superficial, but enthusiastically supporting the march of fascism (election deniers) or glorying in the idea that you may contribute to an innocent person's death (anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers) speak to the core of who a person is. Things like that are difficult to ignore no matter how hot someone is, and make you feel guilty just for being attracted to them.

I also think its worth dispelling some myths re: why so many FBBs are right wing. Socioeconomic factors are the right place to look, but I think they are being misunderstood. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that bodybuilding is expensive and higher income earners tend to be Republican. There are two misperceptions there.

First, bodybuilding is expensive, but bodybuilders themselves tend to be lower income. Most don't have full-time employment or work in high paying jobs and some are stereotypically supporting their unemployed bodybuilder boyfriends, hence the popularity of sessions, and more recently, Onlyfans. Most don't do those things because they love them, but because they can't achieve that level of income in a traditional career. There are exceptions, those with a huge social media following, but they're rare, particularly in the more muscular classes (WPD and FBB).

Second, high incomes tend to be associated with higher levels of education, and most bodybuilders are not college educated (which shouldn't be a shock, only about 35% of the general population is). The traditional view of Republicans is that they are wealthy country club types with Ivy League educations. That might have been true in the 90s or earlier, but its long outdated. Today, the biggest predictor of political leaning is education. The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to vote Republican (that's a well supported fact, not my opinion). Most FBBs tend to come from a working class background and did not attend college, or if they did, majored in fluffier subjects related to athletics. Again, there is the occasional doctor, lawyer, or scientist (the aforementioned Kristy Hawkins), but their rarity is precisely why we're so surprised when they pop up.

When you take those factors into account, add in the military/law enforcement influences, a ton of Evangelical Christianity, backgrounds that typically involve growing up far away from coastal American cities (and thus any of the people their parents teach them to hate), and the frequency of narcissim, the hard right-wing cocktail becomes pretty strong.

Nothing to add. That's a near-perfect summary. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

TL;DR That politics bother most of us isn't a coincidence, it's because today's politics speak to core values. Also, bodybuilding is expensive, but right-wingers today tend to be lower-income and lower-education (surveys consistenly show the latter), and that aligns with a lot of bodybuilders.

I share the sentiment that the super right-wing views that many FBBs seem so excited to share is the most annoying thing of substance. That word, substance, is why I think the topic trended in that direction and stayed there. A lot of the other things are pet peeves, or entirely superficial, but enthusiastically supporting the march of fascism (election deniers) or glorying in the idea that you may contribute to an innocent person's death (anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers) speak to the core of who a person is. Things like that are difficult to ignore no matter how hot someone is, and make you feel guilty just for being attracted to them.

I also think its worth dispelling some myths re: why so many FBBs are right wing. Socioeconomic factors are the right place to look, but I think they are being misunderstood. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that bodybuilding is expensive and higher income earners tend to be Republican. There are two misperceptions there.

First, bodybuilding is expensive, but bodybuilders themselves tend to be lower income. Most don't have full-time employment or work in high paying jobs and some are stereotypically supporting their unemployed bodybuilder boyfriends, hence the popularity of sessions, and more recently, Onlyfans. Most don't do those things because they love them, but because they can't achieve that level of income in a traditional career. There are exceptions, those with a huge social media following, but they're rare, particularly in the more muscular classes (WPD and FBB).

Second, high incomes tend to be associated with higher levels of education, and most bodybuilders are not college educated (which shouldn't be a shock, only about 35% of the general population is). The traditional view of Republicans is that they are wealthy country club types with Ivy League educations. That might have been true in the 90s or earlier, but its long outdated. Today, the biggest predictor of political leaning is education. The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to vote Republican (that's a well supported fact, not my opinion). Most FBBs tend to come from a working class background and did not attend college, or if they did, majored in fluffier subjects related to athletics. Again, there is the occasional doctor, lawyer, or scientist (the aforementioned Kristy Hawkins), but their rarity is precisely why we're so surprised when they pop up.

When you take those factors into account, add in the military/law enforcement influences, a ton of Evangelical Christianity, backgrounds that typically involve growing up far away from coastal American cities (and thus any of the people their parents teach them to hate), and the frequency of narcissim, the hard right-wing cocktail becomes pretty strong.

Thank you for dispelling the socio-economic myths stated above.

Lefties are generally better educated and have more professional full time jobs.

The reason fbbs spew rightist red pill propaganda is because of their general low level of education and cultural stimulation.

What I also realized: getting huge and muscular is easy. It just takes time and dedication. The supplement and nutrition part can be understood by a toddler. It is one of the few endeavours where lower IQ people can be as or more successful than smarter people.

It is therefore no wonder that we have to mute our favourite fbb‘s stories in order to not feel like we are loosing brain cells.

This is no one in particular but social media has destroyed expectations for most people. The ones pushed the top are either elite athletes, on gear, or both.

I see and hear of many people upset that they can only bench x weight for x reps and it’s not like repping 2 plates (women) or 3 (men)— well I mean such a low percentage of lifters can actually do that. You just see all of them because they are pushed by the algorithm and/or are popular posts. However I do see more people encouraging others who don’t have big lifts but are working (hunter Henderson has been great at this) vs those who are on gear and aren’t honest about it if asks. Hoping the liver king nonsense helps open some eyeballs

Good point and (not to derail the thread) why fake naturals are so harmful.

TL;DR That politics bother most of us isn't a coincidence, it's because today's politics speak to core values. Also, bodybuilding is expensive, but right-wingers today tend to be lower-income and lower-education (surveys consistenly show the latter), and that aligns with a lot of bodybuilders.

I share the sentiment that the super right-wing views that many FBBs seem so excited to share is the most annoying thing of substance. That word, substance, is why I think the topic trended in that direction and stayed there. A lot of the other things are pet peeves, or entirely superficial, but enthusiastically supporting the march of fascism (election deniers) or glorying in the idea that you may contribute to an innocent person's death (anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers) speak to the core of who a person is. Things like that are difficult to ignore no matter how hot someone is, and make you feel guilty just for being attracted to them.

I also think its worth dispelling some myths re: why so many FBBs are right wing. Socioeconomic factors are the right place to look, but I think they are being misunderstood. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that bodybuilding is expensive and higher income earners tend to be Republican. There are two misperceptions there.

First, bodybuilding is expensive, but bodybuilders themselves tend to be lower income. Most don't have full-time employment or work in high paying jobs and some are stereotypically supporting their unemployed bodybuilder boyfriends, hence the popularity of sessions, and more recently, Onlyfans. Most don't do those things because they love them, but because they can't achieve that level of income in a traditional career. There are exceptions, those with a huge social media following, but they're rare, particularly in the more muscular classes (WPD and FBB).

Second, high incomes tend to be associated with higher levels of education, and most bodybuilders are not college educated (which shouldn't be a shock, only about 35% of the general population is). The traditional view of Republicans is that they are wealthy country club types with Ivy League educations. That might have been true in the 90s or earlier, but its long outdated. Today, the biggest predictor of political leaning is education. The more educated a person is, the less likely they are to vote Republican (that's a well supported fact, not my opinion). Most FBBs tend to come from a working class background and did not attend college, or if they did, majored in fluffier subjects related to athletics. Again, there is the occasional doctor, lawyer, or scientist (the aforementioned Kristy Hawkins), but their rarity is precisely why we're so surprised when they pop up.

When you take those factors into account, add in the military/law enforcement influences, a ton of Evangelical Christianity, backgrounds that typically involve growing up far away from coastal American cities (and thus any of the people their parents teach them to hate), and the frequency of narcissim, the hard right-wing cocktail becomes pretty strong.

Holy s***. You nailed it. Couldn’t agree more.

Since this heart attack could very well end An Da Jeong's career, would it be wise to assume she'd rely on something bodybuilding adjacent like personal training as her thing to do?

Oh no they are going to lock the thread if the covid "debate" starts up.