Imagine if you beat Andrulla at chess (from what I understand she's no too bad), i would think round 2 she would want to get revenge in an arm wrestling match.
Its generally amazing how many schnorrers can live of the female bodybuilding business, given the fact that the athletes themselves live from hand to mouth.
Apparently tanning also costs a fortune. The color itself and the service (must really be a tough job to cream up a body). Exclusive contracts are out there, its odd.
So still trying to shake this one off…there is a decent amount of fit girls in my apartment complex. I think it has to do with it being a higher income neighborhood. Anyways, I was walking my dog at the park near my apartments when I noticed a girl with an incredibly dense upper body walking her dog too. Immediately, I pick up the pace to try to catch up to them with my dog. I have to admit trying to catch up to her was the most exhilarating experience in a long time. She had such a broad back and her arms were so ripped. As I got closer, I began to realize that I have seen her puppy and her on a daily basis. Normally, I take my dog out in the morning for a small walk and as I head back I bump into them. She has always been friendly and smiles to us as I pass by and smile back. What has got me so shook is the fact that my muscle radar has never gone off because every time I have seen them, she has worn an oversized athletic sweater. This time I was determined to start a conversation so I caught up to her and asked her about her puppy. She politely smiled and responded to my small talk. I was definitely nervous since I was up close to her athletic body. While she was talking, I couldn’t but notice her six pack. I tried to keep the conversation quick since her dog was not reacting too well to my own. So I politely excused myself and continued walking my dog while she walked towards her apartment building. I would be lying if I didn’t admit that I am definitely looking forward to taking my dog out in the morning from now on.
the bikini costs are outragous tbh for someone gluing a bunch of sequins and "crystals" you can buy at Party City. I'm watching one woman do her own in prep for her next season (that I'm sure she will get adjusted by someone with sewing skills) and it's probably saving her hundreds.
5K, thats the number I got when asking the same question. Not sure if she was boasting, but also quoted food, supplmements, hair style, bikini, tanning, travel costs in addition to drugs. Not to mention the opportunity costs. Thats during competition time, off season way cheaper.
Once at a night club the fit girl subject to my attention replied "I work out seven days a week, I know Im hot." Such a hot attitude indeed, although not the easiest to work with. I mockingly questioned her physique, demanding proof which led to a pleasurable bicep squeeze and some leg and ass flexes. Then she was off with some lady friends, but her egoistic demeanor was hot as hell for some reason.
I'd find that arrogant attitude a massive turn off.
Liver King was spending a ton in roids because he was on a bunch of stuff, and also getting help from overseas, likely had to pay a premium for the help. Likely he's probably getting scammed on price himself based on those emails lmao.
Once there was this new super fit girl at the gym I frequented at the time. She wasnt huge but absolutely ripped. No fat, striated delts, triceps, forearms. First she did half an hour intense cardio, during which I kept an eye on her. Then, luckily, she continued with lifting. At some point she ended up near me, doing leg raises for abs. She could keep going rep after rep. Between the sets I interrupted, sincerely saying: "excuse me but I have to say your are in an incredible shape. Are you training for something?" She was happy about the compliment, and told she was doing this for herself, at least for the moment. Then, since she was wearing a baggy sleeveles shirt, I asked "I noticed your leg raises, you must have some crazy set of abs there?" She lifted her shirt (very happily again) and let me even pat her perfect flat brickwall.
Unfortunately she was not from the town and I never saw her again. But I have repeated the process, inside and outside the gym, with positive and permanent results. I just get blurt out my thoughts as sincerely as I can to her and see what happens.
Btw. I try to remember to get the girl's attention before speaking, making sure we have an eye contact and she has taken headphones off.
Once at a night club the fit girl subject to my attention replied "I work out seven days a week, I know Im hot." Such a hot attitude indeed, although not the easiest to work with. I mockingly questioned her physique, demanding proof which led to a pleasurable bicep squeeze and some leg and ass flexes. Then she was off with some lady friends, but her egoistic demeanor was hot as hell for some reason.
This thread is fascinating, love hearing some of the Herbiceps lore and stories. Herbiceps was one of my first intros into fbb, I remember scouring the free clips section, and being addicted to a clip of Rebekah Kresila doing pushups, and checking Andy's Muscle Goddesses (the lite version without the music lol) daily for any additional free herbiceps clips.
A few years later in late high school I decided to finally get a membership but since I didn't have a credit card I had to mail in cash in an envelope haha, but once I finally got that login it was pretty magical- so many videos and photos to access all at once. Very overwhelming but amazing.
Still a massive fan of herbiceps to this day, and love that they're willing to jump into new categories and try new things, particularly VR which is a game-changer. Cheers!
That makes sense. Pretty rare bavk then for someone to host their own site (Jodi Miller, I remember, and maybe one or two were hosting geocities or aol homepages lmao) but there was basically nothing except the shooters. Now they can post their own stuff though given how social media is it tends to be over filtered, over edited, relying too much on angles for perspective at times. I appreciate that HB has, for example, given us shoulder height videos of the women so that their biceps aren’t under or over exaggerated.
All those women were great. I remember the big Cindy Phillips talk on the old boards. In particular I remember her counting video, which is one of my faves of all time of any video
I think to remember that Pam Howard also had her own site. She offered some extra in her private section: financial news. Reading the wall street journal, pumped up with pictures of her - posing. Wicked.
I was wondering how much a top tier fbb has to spend each month to sustain her lifestyle. I was looking at this controversy about liver king and he was spending like 15k/month in roids. What about fbb's? Knowing also all the other expenses like plastic surgery for example? Would be nice to know the economics!
That makes sense. Pretty rare bavk then for someone to host their own site (Jodi Miller, I remember, and maybe one or two were hosting geocities or aol homepages lmao) but there was basically nothing except the shooters. Now they can post their own stuff though given how social media is it tends to be over filtered, over edited, relying too much on angles for perspective at times. I appreciate that HB has, for example, given us shoulder height videos of the women so that their biceps aren’t under or over exaggerated.
All those women were great. I remember the big Cindy Phillips talk on the old boards. In particular I remember her counting video, which is one of my faves of all time of any video
Off topic, but if any of you Brits know how an American who used to live in London can get back to the UK (e.g., your company is hiring and I could get a job there), then speak up!
Sometimes I really wish there would be more opportunities to catch up for fans. Sitting down in the hotel lobby over a coffee, or later over a beer, and just exchange stories. Well maybe there are, and I am just not aware ...
I've met so many people on here, from all over the world and shared so many great experiences. Well maybe I didn't actually meet them but you know what I mean.
As much as I like camming, as it has never been easier to get in touch with women bodybuilders - the next best thing to meeting in real - as much do I miss the days of NYMC. It was either save money and travel in to attend the events, or stick with lo-res sites with lots of written stuff too.
DTV had its legendary board, where some of the known athletes participated. I always enjoyed the conversation room of Lisa Bavington - who acted like a hardcore feminist at the time. Lisa gave some of the folks quite a reality check.
Then there was the site of Lori Braun, femalemuscle.org or something. She had a chatroom open, quite the predecessor of modern age online meetings. Must have been around the mid 90s, I was still at university and - due to the time difference - sometimes spent the night in the only computer room open all night, feeding myself from what was in the food vending machine.
Then came FTV with its cam, and not long after HBC, which I stick to until today.
If I had the money back then, I would have travelled into NY from Europe. Now I have the money, but NYMC does not exist any longer.
Where is the time machine when you need one ....
Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane and for your longtime support!
Yes, Lisa was smart, funny, and took this whole bodybuilding thing very seriously. She was not into being an element of some group's fantasy.
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nto to mention coaching. anywhere from 200-500/mo for just regular coaching, and prep packages costing even more.
Imagine if you beat Andrulla at chess (from what I understand she's no too bad), i would think round 2 she would want to get revenge in an arm wrestling match.
Why is it so controversial if an FBB is natural or not? Are there serious legal implications in America?
Its generally amazing how many schnorrers can live of the female bodybuilding business, given the fact that the athletes themselves live from hand to mouth.
Apparently tanning also costs a fortune. The color itself and the service (must really be a tough job to cream up a body). Exclusive contracts are out there, its odd.
So still trying to shake this one off…there is a decent amount of fit girls in my apartment complex. I think it has to do with it being a higher income neighborhood. Anyways, I was walking my dog at the park near my apartments when I noticed a girl with an incredibly dense upper body walking her dog too. Immediately, I pick up the pace to try to catch up to them with my dog. I have to admit trying to catch up to her was the most exhilarating experience in a long time. She had such a broad back and her arms were so ripped. As I got closer, I began to realize that I have seen her puppy and her on a daily basis. Normally, I take my dog out in the morning for a small walk and as I head back I bump into them. She has always been friendly and smiles to us as I pass by and smile back. What has got me so shook is the fact that my muscle radar has never gone off because every time I have seen them, she has worn an oversized athletic sweater. This time I was determined to start a conversation so I caught up to her and asked her about her puppy. She politely smiled and responded to my small talk. I was definitely nervous since I was up close to her athletic body. While she was talking, I couldn’t but notice her six pack. I tried to keep the conversation quick since her dog was not reacting too well to my own. So I politely excused myself and continued walking my dog while she walked towards her apartment building. I would be lying if I didn’t admit that I am definitely looking forward to taking my dog out in the morning from now on.
the bikini costs are outragous tbh for someone gluing a bunch of sequins and "crystals" you can buy at Party City. I'm watching one woman do her own in prep for her next season (that I'm sure she will get adjusted by someone with sewing skills) and it's probably saving her hundreds.
5K, thats the number I got when asking the same question. Not sure if she was boasting, but also quoted food, supplmements, hair style, bikini, tanning, travel costs in addition to drugs. Not to mention the opportunity costs. Thats during competition time, off season way cheaper.
I'd find that arrogant attitude a massive turn off.
Liver King was spending a ton in roids because he was on a bunch of stuff, and also getting help from overseas, likely had to pay a premium for the help. Likely he's probably getting scammed on price himself based on those emails lmao.
Once there was this new super fit girl at the gym I frequented at the time. She wasnt huge but absolutely ripped. No fat, striated delts, triceps, forearms. First she did half an hour intense cardio, during which I kept an eye on her. Then, luckily, she continued with lifting. At some point she ended up near me, doing leg raises for abs. She could keep going rep after rep. Between the sets I interrupted, sincerely saying: "excuse me but I have to say your are in an incredible shape. Are you training for something?" She was happy about the compliment, and told she was doing this for herself, at least for the moment. Then, since she was wearing a baggy sleeveles shirt, I asked "I noticed your leg raises, you must have some crazy set of abs there?" She lifted her shirt (very happily again) and let me even pat her perfect flat brickwall.
Unfortunately she was not from the town and I never saw her again. But I have repeated the process, inside and outside the gym, with positive and permanent results. I just get blurt out my thoughts as sincerely as I can to her and see what happens.
Btw. I try to remember to get the girl's attention before speaking, making sure we have an eye contact and she has taken headphones off.
Once at a night club the fit girl subject to my attention replied "I work out seven days a week, I know Im hot." Such a hot attitude indeed, although not the easiest to work with. I mockingly questioned her physique, demanding proof which led to a pleasurable bicep squeeze and some leg and ass flexes. Then she was off with some lady friends, but her egoistic demeanor was hot as hell for some reason.
Oops my bad
She is an IFBB professional bodybuilder
No, she is not natty. And what’s with the “born vegan” claim?
This thread is fascinating, love hearing some of the Herbiceps lore and stories. Herbiceps was one of my first intros into fbb, I remember scouring the free clips section, and being addicted to a clip of Rebekah Kresila doing pushups, and checking Andy's Muscle Goddesses (the lite version without the music lol) daily for any additional free herbiceps clips.
A few years later in late high school I decided to finally get a membership but since I didn't have a credit card I had to mail in cash in an envelope haha, but once I finally got that login it was pretty magical- so many videos and photos to access all at once. Very overwhelming but amazing.
Still a massive fan of herbiceps to this day, and love that they're willing to jump into new categories and try new things, particularly VR which is a game-changer. Cheers!
I think to remember that Pam Howard also had her own site. She offered some extra in her private section: financial news. Reading the wall street journal, pumped up with pictures of her - posing. Wicked.
Worth an effort, but I'm not sure if it ever exists.
That's not much OT, thanks for the nice picture. It may be a bit old judging by the date at the bottom, but she looks very nice here.
She doesn’t compete anymore but here you go
Yeah, working as an engineer - thats what I heard, too.
She also plays the guitar pretty well.
WPI is a four year engineering college. I think she has a BS in an engineering field and currently works as one.
I was wondering how much a top tier fbb has to spend each month to sustain her lifestyle. I was looking at this controversy about liver king and he was spending like 15k/month in roids. What about fbb's? Knowing also all the other expenses like plastic surgery for example? Would be nice to know the economics!
That makes sense. Pretty rare bavk then for someone to host their own site (Jodi Miller, I remember, and maybe one or two were hosting geocities or aol homepages lmao) but there was basically nothing except the shooters. Now they can post their own stuff though given how social media is it tends to be over filtered, over edited, relying too much on angles for perspective at times. I appreciate that HB has, for example, given us shoulder height videos of the women so that their biceps aren’t under or over exaggerated.
All those women were great. I remember the big Cindy Phillips talk on the old boards. In particular I remember her counting video, which is one of my faves of all time of any video
Off topic, but if any of you Brits know how an American who used to live in London can get back to the UK (e.g., your company is hiring and I could get a job there), then speak up!
I've met so many people on here, from all over the world and shared so many great experiences. Well maybe I didn't actually meet them but you know what I mean.
Not sure about Mike, but I would love to have shot Ericca Kern and Erin Stern. There are probably some others I'm forgetting.
Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane and for your longtime support!
Yes, Lisa was smart, funny, and took this whole bodybuilding thing very seriously. She was not into being an element of some group's fantasy.