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Heidi Orlando

I love the look of big, well-developed muscles, but, for me, nothing compares to the thrill of seeing a woman demonstrate raw strength. I especially love when a woman is so strong that it elevates her position in the immediate social hierarchy. Like, if a regular guy was working out and Daniella Melo showed up to his gym, I bet he would treat her with quite a bit of deference after he saw her squat 500, deadlift 540, and bench 300.

Honestly and in reality people who answered "roided" either don't mind some minor side effects because they're still turned on by the big muscles, or they don't mind any side effects because they're turned on by the very freakiness of it, or they are turned on or consoled or comforted by the woman's suffering and self-destruction. There is no generosity or courage or heroic open-mindedness in any of these three.

This reminds me of a bodybuilding documentary I watched (forget which one). In it, they talked about the fact that they used to test for PEDs in the early days of pro bodybuilding. Then the sponsors and people who paid to see it told them to knock it off! "I'm paying to see this spectacle, and I wanna see freaks!" And the rest is history.

So yes, in female bodybuilding, there's indeed an element of the fanbase who want to see the freaks. Then again, perhaps we all do here, but just the level of freakishness we like vary widely.

I would kill to have the old J-Mac footage in HD.

I disagree. I love strength, but the aesthetics are more important. I think that a muscular woman is more effeminate in many ways than a non-muscular woman. Muscles create crazy dimensions -- tiny waist, large upper body, large lower body, huge round glutes. Exaggerated hourglass figures, and all from hard muscle. Kim Kardashian's curves are nothing compared to a lot of the women on this website.

I couldn't have said it any better. A muscular woman is made up of hard curves and soft steel. Her strength just adds to her appeal.

I’m team strength. Love the more ‘girl next door’ types who are way stronger than they look.

Absolutely, a girl next door that surprises you and amazes you with her strength is hot AF. They make me melt inside.

60% strength 40% aesthetics...maybe. It varies. I love both, but if I have to choose just one or the other, I go with strength. This is always an interesting topic though. I like to see other people's views on this.

The Chainer chart is 100% spot on. A little goes a long way, too much and it destroys the allure of what it was supposed to enhance

Its all about the aesthetics of a muscular woman for me; the curves, shapes and definition of female muscle is just plain sexy

Can someone please convert below video to HD

Hi There - What is current resolution ?? I can convert for you as best possible with Topaz but depends on length and upscale to understand how god I can make it

I found natural GWM very attractive. I know they are very very rare.

I also like girls with PEDs with big visible muscles. I don't mind some side effects like deep voice even though it was a turn off for me before.

PEDs are not magical pills. Girls with PEDs need lots of efforts to reach these levels. Girls with PEDs are not cheating. Also PEDs are not short cuts. PEDs will just extend the limit that natural body can not reach in terms of strength, size and fat loss.

Difficult to answer. For me, ignition spark is coming from strength .

Great question, both. Nothing compares to look and be strong.

Strength is the basis for me and come first. Muscle shape and size are a representation of strength. Still aesthetics are important and I will not turn on by strength alone.

That's why I don't see all strong women attractive. Also, I look at bikini models same as non muscle women.

Here are some shots of wifey post-gym pumped arm! Further a new pool for you. She wants a new tattoo on her right forearm, but not sure if in the inner or outer side. She applied a temporary one to get an idea... so where would you suggest to place it to be sexier and involving?

She is looking amazing ! hows her abs going ?

I fine with roids, most of the girls I like are on roids.

Agreed.

A lot of guys here (especially the ones who don't train themselves) really have no clue as to what is achievable naturally, especially as a woman. Having a preference for muscular women means accepting the fact that the overwhelming majority of physiques that we find visually appealing are not possible unless one is using PEDs. The problem (for lack of a better word) with sites like this is that it results in a kind of confirmation bias amongst the guys who browse it. They see a ubiquitous number of muscular women and think it's becoming more of a norm, or that it represents the results of women starting to get into the weight room. That warped view results in when they see an actual natural woman who lifts 5+ days a week, but think they either don't lift or barely do. Gaining muscle naturally as a woman is very, very difficult, and the results are nowhere near as prominent as it is with a man. And before some idiot chimes in by saying "ugh, more dudes who think women can't build muscle without steroids," note that I never said that women can't build muscle without steroids. They absolutely can, but the results are far less stark than those we are accustomed to seeing on sites like this.

I'm an athlete, and while I don't bodybuild I am around competitors and attend competitions and expos. I recently chatted with a former training partner who switched from CrossFit to bikini competitions and placed just short of winning a pro card at her last competition. Remember, bikini competitors are the smallest competitors at a bodybuilding show, and when we talked about the cycle her coach put her on, it was a LOT of compounds. If your average amateur bikini athlete is using that many compounds, you can only imagine what bigger and more defined competitors are using. Bikini competitors are not just "using a bit of anavar."

And when it comes to sides, while yes, taking more and harsher compounds can result in virilization, more often than not its genetics that cause those changes. Think of Dani Reardon. It's not hard to conclude that she was on a lot of compounds, but it's clear she was genetically blessed because she barely developed any virilization. Meanwhile, I know guys who ran a beginner test cycle and pretty much lost their entire hairline. OP, you can't move the goalpost by claiming that those signs are indicative of being "roided to the max." How well you respond to PEDs, and the negative side effects you get from them, are primarily determined by your genetics.

I never understood why some dudes are so adamant to defend a bodybuilder/athlete's claim that they are natural, as if the knowledge of them using PEDs ruins their fetish. Why does it? Steroids are not some magic bullet. You still have to put a ton of work in, and in fact even more work versus that of a natural athlete, and you still have to have your nutrition and recovery in check. I also know men and women who use but train and eat like shit, and it shows. Part of being into buff women is accepting that the physique that turns you on is more than likely not natural. And if you can't accept that, you better start getting into much, much smaller and less defined women.

Right on point! Bravo.

Does anyone know what happened to Marina Lopez?

Congrats Anne .You're the best and French !!

Carmen Amara is still active on her YouTube channel but not as active as in the past.

lol I have no words

If she doesn't die he's going to be disappointed..

Carmen Amara

Steroids are attractive to me as part of the process. Overcoming biological limitations and so on. I'm ready for almost any side effects.