What made Diana the Valkyrie so special to me was it made me realize there were many other men who found muscular females sexy. The older guys like myself, lived most of our younger days hiding our lust for femuscle from others. I think most of my fears about letting others know about my attraction to muscular females was my mom's fault. She threw away my collection of circus women and everytime I watched a trapeze lady on TV, she said how ugly and manly they were. She actually made my sister cover up her arms for school, made her feel that her muscles were ugly. All that negativity about muscles on girls had me thinking I was a weirdo. It took me over two years to tell my sister how beautiful her arms were, once she started getting buffed arms. I was afraid that she too would think I was weird. Turned out that my sister loved my compliments and it encouraged her to actually want bigger muscles.
**Early 2000s , we have a second computer at home, my parents had their laptop for work, my sisters and i had another for homework, one day i decided to use my parents laptop, and found a huge gallery of denise masino and autumn raby (you know what kind of pics). I saw it for a few minutes i was drop jaw, before my parents get back home turn it off and act like nothing happened but my heart and mind were 1000 mph, days after I use it again and found more pics of other female bodybuilders; at beginning i thought it was my dad, but weeks later i openned the door very quietly and saw my mom you know "watching" those pics.
It change my way to see women.
Fun fact years later(2018)I saw denise masino at the san diego comic-con I didnt talked to her, I got freezed in front of her, my mom picked me up with my friends and she asked: what we saw during the day, and one of my friends said: we saw a huge muscle lady and mike(me) was with the jaw on the floor they were making jokes about that on the back seats.
my mom asked if we took a pic
I turn to my mom and and said: No, but it was denise masino
My mom turned very very red
At that moment she realized that i knew about the pics she saved on the lap top
and here I am today sharing with you how I got started
thanks mom
and denise and autum
Nice. I've seen female muscle accepted as well as not accepted by various people. It is less accepted now in some ways than it was when fbbs boomed in the 90's. The steroid connection is a big issue and many of the women just admit it now. Some women look great with roids, but it is a case by case thing. That is the primary issue with the younger and middle aged people. The older generation was trained that muscles on a woman are manly....by society.
Anyhow, I am glad to hear your sister was able to lift without an issue.
@zig...my mom discovered my stash of female muscle photos and disposed of every beautiful picture. This was many years ago, long before women lifted. Mostly circus trapeze photos, rare Sports Illustrated pics, anywhere I could find a pic. One was a very rare photo of circus aerialist, Gertrude Hanneford in a sleeveless dress, pumping gas in her car. The caption to the pic, "muscle bunny draws a crowd, pumping gas". My mom referred to muscled women as manly and ugly...which was awful for my younger sister, who had buffed arms, with awesome biceps. With my help, my sis defied my mom and worked to make her arms even more muscular.👍😁💪
It's great reading how everyone discovered their attraction to muscular females. For as long as I can even remember, I was enamored seeing a girl with muscles in her arms. Way back then, it was also very rare, so seeing a girl with biceps was quite an experience for me. Then as luck would have it, I soon realized my younger sister had biceps. Like a mad scientist, I encouraged her to to be proud of her muscles, even rigging up a weight set out of cinder blocks, for her to workout. My mom always poked fun of her arms and couldn't understand why my sister's muscles were getting bigger 🤣. She soon made her wear long sleeve tops and my sister got very discouraged. My sister had a huge crush on my best friend and what soon happened, changed her outlook. He came over one day while my mom was at work and Barbara, my sis had just finished doing her curls with the cinder blocks. I can still see my friend's expression when he came into my room and saw her in her little tank top. Her arms were super pumped and Mike just started gushing how cool her arms looked. He had to literally beg her to flex because she felt embarrassed and was shy around him. Then she flexed her right arm and my friend went nuts. He just kept squeezing her bi and running his hands along her buffed arms, raving about how hard they were and how cool they felt. Now HE was the one who had a big crush on her. Now she got more confidence and was proud of her arms. In high school she was a boy magnet because of her muscles....just the opposite of what my mom tried to make her believe. I went on a lifelong search to find and date my own muscle girl..and damn, they were so hard to find back then. Watching my sister build up her arms like she did was so frustrating. Why can't I find myself a girl like her 😭. Many years later I found several. My mother and society way back then frowned on females having muscle...like muscles only belonged on men. At least I set my sister straight. She became so very proud of her muscular arms...and she always thanked me for my compliments and giving her confidence.
Damn, that Tarna transformation is crazy. She had phenomenal biceps and now they're...barely there?
So I'm digging around on Instagram and looking at a lot of the women mentioned and it's honestly bonkers how many of them follow similar paths. I don't know if there's a left/right political thing at all, since a lot of bb i follow on social media tend to lean right but.
Hanna Hallman: was dating and married to Mike Rice. Now he is dating (maybe married) to some other woman, and Hanna is teaching yoga and posting about "being one with the universe" and "third eye" stuff. this is a trend. As far as I can tell she may not lift anymore. I would bet that the amount of steroids she was taking as she transitioned to bodybuilding played a part.
Dani Reardon: went through a slow change--i'm sure many of you know about her arrest years ago because she assaulted her then bf/now husband. I've met both of them, they're nice, so it sounds like she was drunk. But after making some poor financial decisions and moving around, they both made the changed to vegetarian, then vegan, moved to Colorado where her sister was, and I'm sure y'all know the rest: yoga, shaved head, third eye, horoscopes, no bodybuilding training, although she still coaches others. I got customs from her back in the day.
Cindy Philips: didn't go woowoo, she retired early as we know, got married, had two kids, and as of 3 years ago was doing crossfit. apparently one of her kids has cystic fibrosis which is no bueno. somehow her site is still active after all these years. I don't know her married name so I couldn't find any more recent updates since 2018.
Tarna Alderman: I'm not sure what happened to her--she already had a kid but maybe the cost of competitive BB and the time and the physical toll (+Steroids) made her think twice and she turned around. Very flash in the pan.
Sierra Mangus: was a rising star then went all woo-woo and yoga, and downsized. she's still active on social but that life is over.
Shannon Courtney: no longer wanted to compete--i'm sure there were a lot of factors here. She dated Brandon Ray for a while and it sounded pretty controlling (this was post divorce or in the middle of it, and her former husband I guess had been okay with all the muscle worship stuff but I assume Ray wasn't, because she basically stopped it all at that time). Plus women's bodybuilding basically died when she was ramping up. So without a goal she quit. Went and did some warrior races and settled on crossfit. The implants don't do it for me, but she had a second kid. She's I guess still trying to be semi-competitive in crossfit but at this juncture the scene is so fragmented with competitions who knows how anyone will do. Got married, seems to be pretty normal.
Megan Colvin: I assume she went REALLY hard on the steroids because she got big fast. i heard she did cam super briefly but obviously quit bb, didn't go woowoo or anything, but I just have less info on her.
There are a few others I thought of:
Vanessa Naesheim (Quit to pursue MMA/BJJ though she and her BF still run their gym). I always felt like she had great lines for physique but wasn't quite big enough and wasn't always rewarded. Now she definitely wouldn't be big enough.
Katie Lee (Basically done with competing and focusing on BJJ/MMA, although she still looks like a BB). Incredible arms and chest as we all know but lower body didn't match up, plus a wide waist that made proportions hard.
Taylor Iraggi (took a bunch of roids to go to physique and is doing bikini last I heard, but I'm not sure if she's still competing)
@scottabc...kudos to you for setting your wife straight on her sister!!! There are so many women who still curse their big calves or big arms. I'm sure some of the women I dated thought I was weird for loving their muscles but I find muscular women so incredibly hot, I couldn't help it!!!
I generally go the 'positive reinforcement' route, showing my respect/appreciation when my partners have done various activities that build strength and athleticism. I want to be supportive without coming off weird or demanding. I made an exception when my wife mentioned that her dumbass sister was giving her shit about her big calves and then I made it clear that I would be really unhappy if she got smaller calves and that her sister was a fucking idiot.
Just like M76, I seem to have been born this way. As far back as I can remember, girls and women with muscles had my undivided attention. My 2nd grade teacher, was beautiful, with blue eyes, long dark brown hair and amazingly muscular arms. She had this daily ritual of sitting on the edge of her desk, brushing her hair. I can still vividly recall how her biceps would roll up into this hard looking peaked ball with every stroke!!! After that, I searched everywhere on TV for any sign of a female with muscle. Way back then, it was mostly just trapeze women in the circus. Ironically, my sister, one year younger than me, developed muscular arms, even when she was young. Not nearly as good as finding a girl with muscles to date but it was pretty cool to have a sister with arms like hers. She flexed for me all the time and I didn't even have to ask her. She loved showing off her muscles.
I'll have a go and try to get into the history of it in my experience. For me I have trouble pin pointing exactly where it really started. I believe my love of wrestling (pro wrestling) as a child sparked it maybe. I remember being in late elementary school and starting to fantasize about the girls in my class would look like with muscles specifically biceps and abs. I believe I would occasionally get wrestling magazines as a child (I think they were pro wrestling magazines) and they from time to time had pictures of regular buff chicks (and guys) in the front cover page. I also remember being in middle school and being a library aide. One time I was putting books away and came across a fitness book. Inside one of the pages was a big blown up picture of a female bodybuilder (no clue who it was) I remember secretly photo copying it and taking it home with me.
I remember having a weird fantasy with an attractive neighbor girl when I was younger she was much taller then me (I was very short until middle of high school). I would estimate her height and stand on stuff and pretend to be as tall as she was when I was alone and it would make me feel weird (I was very young at the time 8-9 and didn't understand that it was turning me on I also no longer have a height fetish as it fully morphed into muscle). Because of internet and limited availability of content I would go very far and few between before having glimpses of what would become my fetish. I remember working up the nerve from time to time and asking my sisters friends who were a little younger then me to flex, we played together a lot as we were close in age. I only remember one of her friends having muscle. This memory is probably from late elementary school (maybe early middle school) if I am remembering it correctly she was probably the first encounter face to face with muscle in my life. She had abs and surprising biceps. I would try to act cool, but I loved when my sister had her over as a child. The next early face to face memory was a school trip I had in late middle school. We had the opportunity to use the hotel pool and everyone on our trip got 30 minutes. Their was this one girl in my class that I had no idea was fit came to the pool with some of the most shredded and ripped abs I have ever seen up to that point. This memory is so poignant that this possibly made everything so real to me. That some girl I knew personally (we weren't really friends just acquaintances) could exist in day to day life.
Soon after I moved away and we got our first family computer. For awhile I had no idea that muscular/fit woman could exist online until one day I searched for them. When I actively and reliably could find pictures of fit chicks online it became a hobby of sorts. I soon became obsessed eventually finding the herbiceps forum and soon after myspace (specifically the search function on their images). I also ran into a website called bodyspace which could host profiles of random people that I would soon scour through.
I again went pretty far and few between with seeing fit woman. Their were a few girls in highschool who were pretty fit. I never actually worked up the nerve to ask them to flex. One memory I have in PE we were doing a warm up jog and I happened to be running next to one of the fitter chicks in my high school (she had some shockingly big arms for a relatively skinny girl) and my buddy joking around jogged by us quickly and flexed to pretend act tough. He was kind of a skinny guy, but I remember her laughing and telling me she was pretty sure her arms were bigger. I always regretted not asking her to flex at the moment. I remember another moment from high school when a new guy moved to our school who was pretty buff and very attractive (the girls loved him) and in one class another pretty fit girl antagonized him enough to flex for her and she returned the favor. It was impressive but I wasn't blown away by any means.
That was the last face to face moment I had with muscle for a very long time. That was until my 3rd or 4th girl friend who I have talked about on here that completely changed the game for me. I started dating a chick who unbeknown to me at the time was extremely fit. We started seeing each other in the colder months so it wasn't until several dates later at a get together at her friends house that I realized I was dating a pretty ripped chick with shockingly large biceps. I completely ruined the relationship with my obsession and was extremely depressed for years after the fact. But it did make me realize that dating fit chicks was completely possible. I had a few relationships after nothing super serious.
I was living with a female co worker at the time who I only considered a friend. I remember coworkers telling me she was super in love with me, but to be honest I wasn't really into her. Until one day at work she had her arms extended lifting something and I saw a bicep peaking out of her arm. Nothing too impressive at the time because she was stocky and not exactly fit, but it did surprise me. It didn't stop me from arm wrestling her often when we would hang out. I would usually beat her. I thought it was nice and it added this weird layer to our relationship. I still wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with her. Funny enough back then and it never occurred to me until later after she told me. She had purchased one of those door frame pullup bars and was doing pullups and chinnups when I wasn't home. She later told me (much later) she noticed me checking out her arms and how frequent we would arm wrestle and knew it was a weird turn on for me.
Eventually I moved away to get a better job. I realized a few months later that I was missing her quite a bit. We were really great friends and I decided after many failed relationships that I was dating the wrong people. Eventually told her I loved and missed her and we moved into our own place together were I had gotten my better job. I came clean about my obsession with female muscle and she seemed optimistic about working out with me on a regular basis. It started off slow working out at home in our apartment with shitty weight sets. Eventually we bought our house together and built a home gym. And now for years we have been working out 6-7 days a week 1.5 to 2 hours a day and we are super happy together. Over the last few years she has really developed a good set of arms and even recently changed job positions for a better schedule and her new position has her lifting 10 to 50lb boxes all day which in my opinion has caused her arms to explode a little bit.
I used to post pictures of her with her face cropped out, but their was never much interest plus people kept saying I'm photo shopping her image so it doesn't interest me a lot anymore, but I couldn't be more happy right now.
I somehow missed this update during this year. I remember your thread from a few years ago, with pic's and nice little real life stories. It's still a great story, and sounds like living the dream. If you have little updates and you're willing to post, it would be very much appreciated.
I'll have a go and try to get into the history of it in my experience. For me I have trouble pin pointing exactly where it really started. I believe my love of wrestling (pro wrestling) as a child sparked it maybe. I remember being in late elementary school and starting to fantasize about the girls in my class would look like with muscles specifically biceps and abs. I believe I would occasionally get wrestling magazines as a child (I think they were pro wrestling magazines) and they from time to time had pictures of regular buff chicks (and guys) in the front cover page. I also remember being in middle school and being a library aide. One time I was putting books away and came across a fitness book. Inside one of the pages was a big blown up picture of a female bodybuilder (no clue who it was) I remember secretly photo copying it and taking it home with me.
I remember having a weird fantasy with an attractive neighbor girl when I was younger she was much taller then me (I was very short until middle of high school). I would estimate her height and stand on stuff and pretend to be as tall as she was when I was alone and it would make me feel weird (I was very young at the time 8-9 and didn't understand that it was turning me on I also no longer have a height fetish as it fully morphed into muscle). Because of internet and limited availability of content I would go very far and few between before having glimpses of what would become my fetish. I remember working up the nerve from time to time and asking my sisters friends who were a little younger then me to flex, we played together a lot as we were close in age. I only remember one of her friends having muscle. This memory is probably from late elementary school (maybe early middle school) if I am remembering it correctly she was probably the first encounter face to face with muscle in my life. She had abs and surprising biceps. I would try to act cool, but I loved when my sister had her over as a child. The next early face to face memory was a school trip I had in late middle school. We had the opportunity to use the hotel pool and everyone on our trip got 30 minutes. Their was this one girl in my class that I had no idea was fit came to the pool with some of the most shredded and ripped abs I have ever seen up to that point. This memory is so poignant that this possibly made everything so real to me. That some girl I knew personally (we weren't really friends just acquaintances) could exist in day to day life.
Soon after I moved away and we got our first family computer. For awhile I had no idea that muscular/fit woman could exist online until one day I searched for them. When I actively and reliably could find pictures of fit chicks online it became a hobby of sorts. I soon became obsessed eventually finding the herbiceps forum and soon after myspace (specifically the search function on their images). I also ran into a website called bodyspace which could host profiles of random people that I would soon scour through.
I again went pretty far and few between with seeing fit woman. Their were a few girls in highschool who were pretty fit. I never actually worked up the nerve to ask them to flex. One memory I have in PE we were doing a warm up jog and I happened to be running next to one of the fitter chicks in my high school (she had some shockingly big arms for a relatively skinny girl) and my buddy joking around jogged by us quickly and flexed to pretend act tough. He was kind of a skinny guy, but I remember her laughing and telling me she was pretty sure her arms were bigger. I always regretted not asking her to flex at the moment. I remember another moment from high school when a new guy moved to our school who was pretty buff and very attractive (the girls loved him) and in one class another pretty fit girl antagonized him enough to flex for her and she returned the favor. It was impressive but I wasn't blown away by any means.
That was the last face to face moment I had with muscle for a very long time. That was until my 3rd or 4th girl friend who I have talked about on here that completely changed the game for me. I started dating a chick who unbeknown to me at the time was extremely fit. We started seeing each other in the colder months so it wasn't until several dates later at a get together at her friends house that I realized I was dating a pretty ripped chick with shockingly large biceps. I completely ruined the relationship with my obsession and was extremely depressed for years after the fact. But it did make me realize that dating fit chicks was completely possible. I had a few relationships after nothing super serious.
I was living with a female co worker at the time who I only considered a friend. I remember coworkers telling me she was super in love with me, but to be honest I wasn't really into her. Until one day at work she had her arms extended lifting something and I saw a bicep peaking out of her arm. Nothing too impressive at the time because she was stocky and not exactly fit, but it did surprise me. It didn't stop me from arm wrestling her often when we would hang out. I would usually beat her. I thought it was nice and it added this weird layer to our relationship. I still wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with her. Funny enough back then and it never occurred to me until later after she told me. She had purchased one of those door frame pullup bars and was doing pullups and chinnups when I wasn't home. She later told me (much later) she noticed me checking out her arms and how frequent we would arm wrestle and knew it was a weird turn on for me.
Eventually I moved away to get a better job. I realized a few months later that I was missing her quite a bit. We were really great friends and I decided after many failed relationships that I was dating the wrong people. Eventually told her I loved and missed her and we moved into our own place together were I had gotten my better job. I came clean about my obsession with female muscle and she seemed optimistic about working out with me on a regular basis. It started off slow working out at home in our apartment with shitty weight sets. Eventually we bought our house together and built a home gym. And now for years we have been working out 6-7 days a week 1.5 to 2 hours a day and we are super happy together. Over the last few years she has really developed a good set of arms and even recently changed job positions for a better schedule and her new position has her lifting 10 to 50lb boxes all day which in my opinion has caused her arms to explode a little bit.
I used to post pictures of her with her face cropped out, but their was never much interest plus people kept saying I'm photo shopping her image so it doesn't interest me a lot anymore, but I couldn't be more happy right now.
You can find many girls with similar bodies simply walking down the street. In fact my sister has a body, more or less, similar. If that's not be normal...
When you enter in a photo site, are looking to see things, not you come to deduce "implicit" things. In GWM, you come to see the muscles of the girls, and obviously, the girls must have muscles big enough to be seen with the naked eye.
In addition, the musculature "implicit" this girl is that of an ordinary skinny. For example, Gracyanne Barbosa, although nothing amazing, has a much better musculature.
It is nonsense that have girls without muscles in Girls With Muscles. That's why we propose this new rule of moderation.
My wife kind of knows i'm attracted to muscular women, but not the degree to which i am. in fact, I'm obsessed, more than attracted. Luckily, my wife is relatively muscular, strong and in good shape. She has amazing genetics because she seldom works out. On the occasions when she starts working out, the muscles harden and grow almost instantly. She's not interested in having too prominent muscles - if she was she'd look incredible in a short time.
I look at all womens arms, but never comment.
i've always been interested in muscles on girls, even before I found it attractive. I think it started from when my little sister used to flex her biceps all the time. I was fascinated because as far as I knew, girls didn't, or weren't supposed to have bulging biceps. My main reaction was jealousy, resentment. "How dare my little sister get muscles before me. How embarrassing; I must not let anyone else notice." I found myself obsessively checking out her muscles to make sure they didn't get bigger then mine. When they did get bigger then mine, I was obsessively checking them out to make sure they didn't get too much bigger then mine. She caught me sneaking a look sometimes, and laughed.
I still look at girls'/women's arms, but now it's because I just love them.
Bought the Kristy Oakley video yesterday and I'm absolutely stunned. Amazing muscles, strength (benches 215lbs @ 115lbs bodyweight; 330lbs squats); absolutely adorable/cute personality.
Highly recommended video. I can't believe there hasn't been anything else out there with her. Oh and her sister is pretty fit too; apparently it runs in the family (would've loved to see her mother, lol!)
RE: the Sarah Backman pics & RE: Michelle Andrea & RE: Heidi Vuorela (yes nobody asked but she's the worst for it) There were already on the site at the time they were denied.
Dupicates always have been and always will be a problem. None of us are the orginal photographer, for the most part we got them online somewhere we passed through. And as soon as anyone modifies the original image and saves it, it is no longer the same image in the eyes of a computer. This also leads to the problem of crops, which get cropped, which get cropped again. (On night I found 13 different images of the same photo, which was a morph to start with!)
The Uploader: Man I just posted a picture of some hot chicks abs, I hope it gets approved today! Mod: Oh look guys, we have a winner, its the 50th Re-cropping of Andressa Vieira or Karen Zaremba's abs (Yes, I had to look the names up for that one, you want names ask TL, Heck I do good to remember where I left my laptop! But anyways the uploader might not now who's abs they are, or that its a blow up image based on a cropped image from an original photograph, nor even the mod that gets it, but trust me someone somewhere, on this board will see the 3 freckles in the shape of the triforce and tell you that is Old Sister Puff-n-Stuff's Abs, from when she was 20 or younger, because she had them removed on her twentyfirst birthday which was 42 years ago.)
What we have here is a reoccurring problem and its a rather complex problem. (Not you, I just mean in general) I would say maybe it lack of understanding of the guidelines, and peoples different perceptions.
Uploader is into A.) Super-Steroid-Mankiller so big she cant be photographed she must be CGI'ed B.) Ripped Pro-Bodybuilders C.) Off-season Pro-Bodybuilders D.) Ripped Pro-Fitness C.) Off-season Pro-Fitness E.) Ripped Pro-Figure F.) Off-season Pro-Figure G.) Ripped Pro-Bikini H.) Off-season Pro-Bikini I.) Amateur Bodybuilder / Fitness / Figure / Bikini J.) Naturally muscled or gym going gals K.) All girls are stronger than X L.) No matter how big all girls are weaker than Y M.) Which is for whoever the heck keeps uploading guys and naked guys! N.) (Which is for No, No, and Hell No!) 5 year older with arms so big they cant be photgraphed they must be CGI'ed and last but not least... T.) (Yes T,which is for Trolls,) no matter which side of the line you stand, the troll will argue the other.
All of this leads to:
Uploader: Why wasn't my picture approved?!? Mod: Because it was already posted 12 different times. Uploaded: But why wasn't MY picture approved. Mod: Because the original was already approved or at least a better/higher resolution version was The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it either to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.)
Before merge, the pecking order was Original-> Better Resolution -> Whatever cropped copy landed first
Age: I'm not going to lie if I have to really debate with myself if she's old enough, I'm going to can it, yes she might be a gymnast but if she looks 12, and she's not showing me ID, it's outta here The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it manages to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.) The Mod after 5 warnings later bans said user for 2 days, then 5 days, and then 7 days.
Large Volumes of the same photo in the same clothes at the same place from a slightly different angle. ( It's part of a paid set of private photos and its mass delete.) The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it either to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.)
Anorexic: Skinny & veins: do not equal muscle, just bending the arm doesn't do it, if i cant really see a visible muscle, abs, calves, bicep something in the pic, it's outta here. (On the flip side, I've also canned some off-season pro-fbb's because in the photo it just looked like some fat chick bending her arms)
The Uploader: I've uploaded my picture 22 times and it keeps getting rejected Mod: What was the picture? The Uploader: This one here
And this one
Mod: Where do I even start? The Uploader: After a year of rejection, the user then starts creating a new account and re-uploads the same (insert number here) images every week.
And yes for the record those two pictures DO IN FACT, end up in the queue multiple times every week. Now add all this up with our current user base, and you queues of around 2,000 images and nearly 25% of which is the same images, again and again Also the rules are general guidelines, unless its a legal issue, its subjective to the mod judging the image at the time and his/her perception. A persons perception changes on a daily basis, I noticed that some days I'll approve a picture and see the same one the next day and go who the heck approved that one?!?! Other days I'm very strict to the guidelines.
Don't get me wrong gang I love what I do, I'm not real social, I come in, clean up the queue, and go and quite happy. But even my with the 3 Monitors and 81" of real estate on my main rig, and using zoom, its still just a row of four thumbnails unless you open a new browser or tab for each one. Things will slip, accidents will happen. And as my ex's are so fond of telling me, I do make mistakes from time to time. ;D But with the exception of the Sister's good name, none of this is even the least bit exaggerated.
(P.S. RE: Miss Red Thong, Didnt see any muscle in there to approve that, but I would damn sure bend her....... -Censored- and scream -Censored -
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ok, so I had my last day at my psycology class. There have been this girl, whom I have around three different classes with. I noticed from the start of the year, that she had some really buff arms. Ofcourse I have at times been looking at her arms while in class, and ofcourse hoped to see her flex. I talk to her from time to time in the class, but we are not friends or anything. So this wednesday, witch was the last day at class, the class was just sitting around a big table, drinking coffee and talking about random stuff. And only for around 10 minutes time, I was talking with some of the girls(including the buff girl) about workout routines, and muscles in general. The talk was mainly focusing around workout and muscles on men, but also a little about the huge FBB whom everyone agreed was too much, I just made a short comment on that i thought it was pretty, as long as the girl wasn't too big, like my girlfriend. A few of the girls went to the gym regularely, including the buff girl ofcourse. And all of a sudden, without me even trying to enforce it, the buff girl said, "you guys wanna see something funny" and I could tell that she was beginning to pull up the little bit of sleeve covering her arms, and BAM, she flexed a serious bicep, and made it jump by twisting her wrist. The other girls were like wow! me too, but covered it up pretty good, since im used to seeing my girlfriends muscles, and i just said, "wow you have big armmuscles" and she just replied, "well you should see my sisters, they are even bigger". That was pretty much it! we didn't really talk more about it, and the class ended, and im probably only gonna see her again for the examns and thats it.
Now to the reason for this telling: I didn't do anything to enforce the subject at all, Im pretty sure the flex would have happend even if i wasn't there. It's not the first flex im experiencing, I have seen alot of random flexes, some of them I have enforced a little, by complementing on a girls arms or just talking about workout and showing possitive attitude about it, maybe most importantly be relaxed about it. So in general, a flex or fun armwrestling match happens to me some times a year. So my question is, why is it that for some people in here it never happens to? is it because they don't feel comfertable around the whole muscle subject? it still doesn't answer the question, when it regards the unenforced flexing, I wonder how some people in here still are waiting for their first real flex, if you are out in public here in Denmark, you can almost not go through a year without that happening.
So in my mind, I have a few explanation on why it just doesn't happen to all of the guys in here: *Danish girls are just more relaxed about it - still makes me wonder, cause i also experienced random flexes from a few girls from Ireland and germany. *Some guys are just not that much around girls, even if they go out, they tend to stay around other guys - still makes me wonder, cause this was in a class, and I remember from earlier years armwrestling some of the girls from elementary school, and again, I didn't always play a part in starting the armwrestling. *Some guys can seem so intense on the subject, that when the random talk ends up on muscles, workout etc. a guy who admire muscles will scare of a girl to flex, because the guy makes the girl unconfertable - still makes me wonder, cause a couple of weeks ago when I was volunteering in a bar at a concert, I just stood there and saw a girl flexing her right bicep two times while talking to another girl, I had nothing to do with it, i was just there.
I don't know why im writing this, im just wondering why some guys say they have never seen a flex in real life, or even been around a girl who had some muscles. I guess guys who yet has a flex to experience, can ask themself the questions to why they never saw a flex, and maybe persuit some of the ways to get higher chances to experience flexes :D
What made Diana the Valkyrie so special to me was it made me realize there were many other men who found muscular females sexy. The older guys like myself, lived most of our younger days hiding our lust for femuscle from others. I think most of my fears about letting others know about my attraction to muscular females was my mom's fault. She threw away my collection of circus women and everytime I watched a trapeze lady on TV, she said how ugly and manly they were. She actually made my sister cover up her arms for school, made her feel that her muscles were ugly. All that negativity about muscles on girls had me thinking I was a weirdo. It took me over two years to tell my sister how beautiful her arms were, once she started getting buffed arms. I was afraid that she too would think I was weird. Turned out that my sister loved my compliments and it encouraged her to actually want bigger muscles.
**Early 2000s , we have a second computer at home, my parents had their laptop for work, my sisters and i had another for homework, one day i decided to use my parents laptop, and found a huge gallery of denise masino and autumn raby (you know what kind of pics). I saw it for a few minutes i was drop jaw, before my parents get back home turn it off and act like nothing happened but my heart and mind were 1000 mph, days after I use it again and found more pics of other female bodybuilders; at beginning i thought it was my dad, but weeks later i openned the door very quietly and saw my mom you know "watching" those pics. It change my way to see women. Fun fact years later(2018)I saw denise masino at the san diego comic-con I didnt talked to her, I got freezed in front of her, my mom picked me up with my friends and she asked: what we saw during the day, and one of my friends said: we saw a huge muscle lady and mike(me) was with the jaw on the floor they were making jokes about that on the back seats. my mom asked if we took a pic I turn to my mom and and said: No, but it was denise masino My mom turned very very red At that moment she realized that i knew about the pics she saved on the lap top and here I am today sharing with you how I got started thanks mom and denise and autum
Nice. I've seen female muscle accepted as well as not accepted by various people. It is less accepted now in some ways than it was when fbbs boomed in the 90's. The steroid connection is a big issue and many of the women just admit it now. Some women look great with roids, but it is a case by case thing. That is the primary issue with the younger and middle aged people. The older generation was trained that muscles on a woman are manly....by society.
Anyhow, I am glad to hear your sister was able to lift without an issue.
@zig...my mom discovered my stash of female muscle photos and disposed of every beautiful picture. This was many years ago, long before women lifted. Mostly circus trapeze photos, rare Sports Illustrated pics, anywhere I could find a pic. One was a very rare photo of circus aerialist, Gertrude Hanneford in a sleeveless dress, pumping gas in her car. The caption to the pic, "muscle bunny draws a crowd, pumping gas". My mom referred to muscled women as manly and ugly...which was awful for my younger sister, who had buffed arms, with awesome biceps. With my help, my sis defied my mom and worked to make her arms even more muscular.👍😁💪
i vouch for a small sister site for all +18 content as not to jeopardize GWM's future integrity. this seems to make the most sense to me.
It's great reading how everyone discovered their attraction to muscular females. For as long as I can even remember, I was enamored seeing a girl with muscles in her arms. Way back then, it was also very rare, so seeing a girl with biceps was quite an experience for me. Then as luck would have it, I soon realized my younger sister had biceps. Like a mad scientist, I encouraged her to to be proud of her muscles, even rigging up a weight set out of cinder blocks, for her to workout. My mom always poked fun of her arms and couldn't understand why my sister's muscles were getting bigger 🤣. She soon made her wear long sleeve tops and my sister got very discouraged. My sister had a huge crush on my best friend and what soon happened, changed her outlook. He came over one day while my mom was at work and Barbara, my sis had just finished doing her curls with the cinder blocks. I can still see my friend's expression when he came into my room and saw her in her little tank top. Her arms were super pumped and Mike just started gushing how cool her arms looked. He had to literally beg her to flex because she felt embarrassed and was shy around him. Then she flexed her right arm and my friend went nuts. He just kept squeezing her bi and running his hands along her buffed arms, raving about how hard they were and how cool they felt. Now HE was the one who had a big crush on her. Now she got more confidence and was proud of her arms. In high school she was a boy magnet because of her muscles....just the opposite of what my mom tried to make her believe. I went on a lifelong search to find and date my own muscle girl..and damn, they were so hard to find back then. Watching my sister build up her arms like she did was so frustrating. Why can't I find myself a girl like her 😭. Many years later I found several. My mother and society way back then frowned on females having muscle...like muscles only belonged on men. At least I set my sister straight. She became so very proud of her muscular arms...and she always thanked me for my compliments and giving her confidence.
Damn, that Tarna transformation is crazy. She had phenomenal biceps and now they're...barely there?
So I'm digging around on Instagram and looking at a lot of the women mentioned and it's honestly bonkers how many of them follow similar paths. I don't know if there's a left/right political thing at all, since a lot of bb i follow on social media tend to lean right but.
Hanna Hallman: was dating and married to Mike Rice. Now he is dating (maybe married) to some other woman, and Hanna is teaching yoga and posting about "being one with the universe" and "third eye" stuff. this is a trend. As far as I can tell she may not lift anymore. I would bet that the amount of steroids she was taking as she transitioned to bodybuilding played a part.
Dani Reardon: went through a slow change--i'm sure many of you know about her arrest years ago because she assaulted her then bf/now husband. I've met both of them, they're nice, so it sounds like she was drunk. But after making some poor financial decisions and moving around, they both made the changed to vegetarian, then vegan, moved to Colorado where her sister was, and I'm sure y'all know the rest: yoga, shaved head, third eye, horoscopes, no bodybuilding training, although she still coaches others. I got customs from her back in the day.
Cindy Philips: didn't go woowoo, she retired early as we know, got married, had two kids, and as of 3 years ago was doing crossfit. apparently one of her kids has cystic fibrosis which is no bueno. somehow her site is still active after all these years. I don't know her married name so I couldn't find any more recent updates since 2018.
Tarna Alderman: I'm not sure what happened to her--she already had a kid but maybe the cost of competitive BB and the time and the physical toll (+Steroids) made her think twice and she turned around. Very flash in the pan.
Sierra Mangus: was a rising star then went all woo-woo and yoga, and downsized. she's still active on social but that life is over.
Shannon Courtney: no longer wanted to compete--i'm sure there were a lot of factors here. She dated Brandon Ray for a while and it sounded pretty controlling (this was post divorce or in the middle of it, and her former husband I guess had been okay with all the muscle worship stuff but I assume Ray wasn't, because she basically stopped it all at that time). Plus women's bodybuilding basically died when she was ramping up. So without a goal she quit. Went and did some warrior races and settled on crossfit. The implants don't do it for me, but she had a second kid. She's I guess still trying to be semi-competitive in crossfit but at this juncture the scene is so fragmented with competitions who knows how anyone will do. Got married, seems to be pretty normal.
Megan Colvin: I assume she went REALLY hard on the steroids because she got big fast. i heard she did cam super briefly but obviously quit bb, didn't go woowoo or anything, but I just have less info on her.
There are a few others I thought of:
Vanessa Naesheim (Quit to pursue MMA/BJJ though she and her BF still run their gym). I always felt like she had great lines for physique but wasn't quite big enough and wasn't always rewarded. Now she definitely wouldn't be big enough.
Katie Lee (Basically done with competing and focusing on BJJ/MMA, although she still looks like a BB). Incredible arms and chest as we all know but lower body didn't match up, plus a wide waist that made proportions hard.
Taylor Iraggi (took a bunch of roids to go to physique and is doing bikini last I heard, but I'm not sure if she's still competing)
@scottabc...kudos to you for setting your wife straight on her sister!!! There are so many women who still curse their big calves or big arms. I'm sure some of the women I dated thought I was weird for loving their muscles but I find muscular women so incredibly hot, I couldn't help it!!!
I generally go the 'positive reinforcement' route, showing my respect/appreciation when my partners have done various activities that build strength and athleticism. I want to be supportive without coming off weird or demanding. I made an exception when my wife mentioned that her dumbass sister was giving her shit about her big calves and then I made it clear that I would be really unhappy if she got smaller calves and that her sister was a fucking idiot.
Just like M76, I seem to have been born this way. As far back as I can remember, girls and women with muscles had my undivided attention. My 2nd grade teacher, was beautiful, with blue eyes, long dark brown hair and amazingly muscular arms. She had this daily ritual of sitting on the edge of her desk, brushing her hair. I can still vividly recall how her biceps would roll up into this hard looking peaked ball with every stroke!!! After that, I searched everywhere on TV for any sign of a female with muscle. Way back then, it was mostly just trapeze women in the circus. Ironically, my sister, one year younger than me, developed muscular arms, even when she was young. Not nearly as good as finding a girl with muscles to date but it was pretty cool to have a sister with arms like hers. She flexed for me all the time and I didn't even have to ask her. She loved showing off her muscles.
I somehow missed this update during this year. I remember your thread from a few years ago, with pic's and nice little real life stories. It's still a great story, and sounds like living the dream. If you have little updates and you're willing to post, it would be very much appreciated.
I remember having a weird fantasy with an attractive neighbor girl when I was younger she was much taller then me (I was very short until middle of high school). I would estimate her height and stand on stuff and pretend to be as tall as she was when I was alone and it would make me feel weird (I was very young at the time 8-9 and didn't understand that it was turning me on I also no longer have a height fetish as it fully morphed into muscle). Because of internet and limited availability of content I would go very far and few between before having glimpses of what would become my fetish. I remember working up the nerve from time to time and asking my sisters friends who were a little younger then me to flex, we played together a lot as we were close in age. I only remember one of her friends having muscle. This memory is probably from late elementary school (maybe early middle school) if I am remembering it correctly she was probably the first encounter face to face with muscle in my life. She had abs and surprising biceps. I would try to act cool, but I loved when my sister had her over as a child. The next early face to face memory was a school trip I had in late middle school. We had the opportunity to use the hotel pool and everyone on our trip got 30 minutes. Their was this one girl in my class that I had no idea was fit came to the pool with some of the most shredded and ripped abs I have ever seen up to that point. This memory is so poignant that this possibly made everything so real to me. That some girl I knew personally (we weren't really friends just acquaintances) could exist in day to day life.
Soon after I moved away and we got our first family computer. For awhile I had no idea that muscular/fit woman could exist online until one day I searched for them. When I actively and reliably could find pictures of fit chicks online it became a hobby of sorts. I soon became obsessed eventually finding the herbiceps forum and soon after myspace (specifically the search function on their images). I also ran into a website called bodyspace which could host profiles of random people that I would soon scour through.
I again went pretty far and few between with seeing fit woman. Their were a few girls in highschool who were pretty fit. I never actually worked up the nerve to ask them to flex. One memory I have in PE we were doing a warm up jog and I happened to be running next to one of the fitter chicks in my high school (she had some shockingly big arms for a relatively skinny girl) and my buddy joking around jogged by us quickly and flexed to pretend act tough. He was kind of a skinny guy, but I remember her laughing and telling me she was pretty sure her arms were bigger. I always regretted not asking her to flex at the moment. I remember another moment from high school when a new guy moved to our school who was pretty buff and very attractive (the girls loved him) and in one class another pretty fit girl antagonized him enough to flex for her and she returned the favor. It was impressive but I wasn't blown away by any means.
That was the last face to face moment I had with muscle for a very long time. That was until my 3rd or 4th girl friend who I have talked about on here that completely changed the game for me. I started dating a chick who unbeknown to me at the time was extremely fit. We started seeing each other in the colder months so it wasn't until several dates later at a get together at her friends house that I realized I was dating a pretty ripped chick with shockingly large biceps. I completely ruined the relationship with my obsession and was extremely depressed for years after the fact. But it did make me realize that dating fit chicks was completely possible. I had a few relationships after nothing super serious.
I was living with a female co worker at the time who I only considered a friend. I remember coworkers telling me she was super in love with me, but to be honest I wasn't really into her. Until one day at work she had her arms extended lifting something and I saw a bicep peaking out of her arm. Nothing too impressive at the time because she was stocky and not exactly fit, but it did surprise me. It didn't stop me from arm wrestling her often when we would hang out. I would usually beat her. I thought it was nice and it added this weird layer to our relationship. I still wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with her. Funny enough back then and it never occurred to me until later after she told me. She had purchased one of those door frame pullup bars and was doing pullups and chinnups when I wasn't home. She later told me (much later) she noticed me checking out her arms and how frequent we would arm wrestle and knew it was a weird turn on for me.
Eventually I moved away to get a better job. I realized a few months later that I was missing her quite a bit. We were really great friends and I decided after many failed relationships that I was dating the wrong people. Eventually told her I loved and missed her and we moved into our own place together were I had gotten my better job. I came clean about my obsession with female muscle and she seemed optimistic about working out with me on a regular basis. It started off slow working out at home in our apartment with shitty weight sets. Eventually we bought our house together and built a home gym. And now for years we have been working out 6-7 days a week 1.5 to 2 hours a day and we are super happy together. Over the last few years she has really developed a good set of arms and even recently changed job positions for a better schedule and her new position has her lifting 10 to 50lb boxes all day which in my opinion has caused her arms to explode a little bit.
I used to post pictures of her with her face cropped out, but their was never much interest plus people kept saying I'm photo shopping her image so it doesn't interest me a lot anymore, but I couldn't be more happy right now.
You can find many girls with similar bodies simply walking down the street. In fact my sister has a body, more or less, similar. If that's not be normal...
When you enter in a photo site, are looking to see things, not you come to deduce "implicit" things. In GWM, you come to see the muscles of the girls, and obviously, the girls must have muscles big enough to be seen with the naked eye.
In addition, the musculature "implicit" this girl is that of an ordinary skinny. For example, Gracyanne Barbosa, although nothing amazing, has a much better musculature.
It is nonsense that have girls without muscles in Girls With Muscles. That's why we propose this new rule of moderation.
As implied by the Schulze in parenthesis between Kerstin and Khalfani, Schulze is Kerstin's maiden name.
Clearly Andrea and Kerstin are twin sisters and they are in fact a tad over six feet tall.
Cathy Lefrancois, the woman in the middle, is not tall. She is around 5'3".
Luckily, my wife is relatively muscular, strong and in good shape. She has amazing genetics because she seldom works out. On the occasions when she starts working out, the muscles harden and grow almost instantly. She's not interested in having too prominent muscles - if she was she'd look incredible in a short time.
I look at all womens arms, but never comment.
i've always been interested in muscles on girls, even before I found it attractive.
I think it started from when my little sister used to flex her biceps all the time. I was fascinated because as far as I knew, girls didn't, or weren't supposed to have bulging biceps. My main reaction was jealousy, resentment. "How dare my little sister get muscles before me. How embarrassing; I must not let anyone else notice." I found myself obsessively checking out her muscles to make sure they didn't get bigger then mine. When they did get bigger then mine, I was obsessively checking them out to make sure they didn't get too much bigger then mine. She caught me sneaking a look sometimes, and laughed.
I still look at girls'/women's arms, but now it's because I just love them.
Highly recommended video. I can't believe there hasn't been anything else out there with her. Oh and her sister is pretty fit too; apparently it runs in the family (would've loved to see her mother, lol!)
There were already on the site at the time they were denied.
Dupicates always have been and always will be a problem.
None of us are the orginal photographer, for the most part we got them online somewhere we passed through.
And as soon as anyone modifies the original image and saves it, it is no longer the same image in the eyes of a computer.
This also leads to the problem of crops, which get cropped, which get cropped again. (On night I found 13 different images of the same photo, which was a morph to start with!)
The Uploader: Man I just posted a picture of some hot chicks abs, I hope it gets approved today!
Mod: Oh look guys, we have a winner, its the 50th Re-cropping of Andressa Vieira or Karen Zaremba's abs
(Yes, I had to look the names up for that one, you want names ask TL, Heck I do good to remember where I left my laptop! But anyways the uploader might not now who's abs they are, or that its a blow up image based on a cropped image from an original photograph, nor even the mod that gets it, but trust me someone somewhere, on this board will see the 3 freckles in the shape of the triforce and tell you that is Old Sister Puff-n-Stuff's Abs, from when she was 20 or younger, because she had them removed on her twentyfirst birthday which was 42 years ago.)
What we have here is a reoccurring problem and its a rather complex problem. (Not you, I just mean in general)
I would say maybe it lack of understanding of the guidelines, and peoples different perceptions.
Uploader is into
A.) Super-Steroid-Mankiller so big she cant be photographed she must be CGI'ed
B.) Ripped Pro-Bodybuilders
C.) Off-season Pro-Bodybuilders
D.) Ripped Pro-Fitness
C.) Off-season Pro-Fitness
E.) Ripped Pro-Figure
F.) Off-season Pro-Figure
G.) Ripped Pro-Bikini
H.) Off-season Pro-Bikini
I.) Amateur Bodybuilder / Fitness / Figure / Bikini
J.) Naturally muscled or gym going gals
K.) All girls are stronger than X
L.) No matter how big all girls are weaker than Y
M.) Which is for whoever the heck keeps uploading guys and naked guys!
N.) (Which is for No, No, and Hell No!) 5 year older with arms so big they cant be photgraphed they must be CGI'ed
and last but not least...
T.) (Yes T,which is for Trolls,) no matter which side of the line you stand, the troll will argue the other.
All of this leads to:
Uploader: Why wasn't my picture approved?!?
Mod: Because it was already posted 12 different times.
Uploaded: But why wasn't MY picture approved.
Mod: Because the original was already approved or at least a better/higher resolution version was
The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it either to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.)
Before merge, the pecking order was Original-> Better Resolution -> Whatever cropped copy landed first
Age: I'm not going to lie if I have to really debate with myself if she's old enough, I'm going to can it, yes she might be a gymnast but if she looks 12, and she's not showing me ID, it's outta here
The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it manages to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.)
The Mod after 5 warnings later bans said user for 2 days, then 5 days, and then 7 days.
Large Volumes of the same photo in the same clothes at the same place from a slightly different angle. ( It's part of a paid set of private photos and its mass delete.)
The Uploader then continues uploaded the same image for the next 12 months until it either to slip past in with another group of pictures only to be deleted later.)
Anorexic: Skinny & veins: do not equal muscle, just bending the arm doesn't do it, if i cant really see a visible muscle, abs, calves, bicep something in the pic, it's outta here.
(On the flip side, I've also canned some off-season pro-fbb's because in the photo it just looked like some fat chick bending her arms)
The Uploader: I've uploaded my picture 22 times and it keeps getting rejected
Mod: What was the picture?
The Uploader:
This one here
And this one
Mod: Where do I even start?
The Uploader: After a year of rejection, the user then starts creating a new account and re-uploads the same (insert number here) images every week.
And yes for the record those two pictures DO IN FACT, end up in the queue multiple times every week.
Now add all this up with our current user base, and you queues of around 2,000 images and nearly 25% of which is the same images, again and again
Also the rules are general guidelines, unless its a legal issue, its subjective to the mod judging the image at the time and his/her perception. A persons perception changes on a daily basis, I noticed that some days I'll approve a picture and see the same one the next day and go who the heck approved that one?!?! Other days I'm very strict to the guidelines.
Don't get me wrong gang I love what I do, I'm not real social, I come in, clean up the queue, and go and quite happy. But even my with the 3 Monitors and 81" of real estate on my main rig, and using zoom, its still just a row of four thumbnails unless you open a new browser or tab for each one. Things will slip, accidents will happen. And as my ex's are so fond of telling me, I do make mistakes from time to time. ;D But with the exception of the Sister's good name, none of this is even the least bit exaggerated.
(P.S. RE: Miss Red Thong, Didnt see any muscle in there to approve that, but I would damn sure bend her....... -Censored- and scream -Censored -
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I talk to her from time to time in the class, but we are not friends or anything. So this wednesday, witch was the last day at class, the class was just sitting around a big table, drinking coffee and talking about random stuff. And only for around 10 minutes time, I was talking with some of the girls(including the buff girl) about workout routines, and muscles in general. The talk was mainly focusing around workout and muscles on men, but also a little about the huge FBB whom everyone agreed was too much, I just made a short comment on that i thought it was pretty, as long as the girl wasn't too big, like my girlfriend.
A few of the girls went to the gym regularely, including the buff girl ofcourse. And all of a sudden, without me even trying to enforce it, the buff girl said, "you guys wanna see something funny" and I could tell that she was beginning to pull up the little bit of sleeve covering her arms, and BAM, she flexed a serious bicep, and made it jump by twisting her wrist. The other girls were like wow! me too, but covered it up pretty good, since im used to seeing my girlfriends muscles, and i just said, "wow you have big armmuscles" and she just replied, "well you should see my sisters, they are even bigger". That was pretty much it! we didn't really talk more about it, and the class ended, and im probably only gonna see her again for the examns and thats it.
Now to the reason for this telling:
I didn't do anything to enforce the subject at all, Im pretty sure the flex would have happend even if i wasn't there. It's not the first flex im experiencing, I have seen alot of random flexes, some of them I have enforced a little, by complementing on a girls arms or just talking about workout and showing possitive attitude about it, maybe most importantly be relaxed about it. So in general, a flex or fun armwrestling match happens to me some times a year.
So my question is, why is it that for some people in here it never happens to? is it because they don't feel comfertable around the whole muscle subject? it still doesn't answer the question, when it regards the unenforced flexing, I wonder how some people in here still are waiting for their first real flex, if you are out in public here in Denmark, you can almost not go through a year without that happening.
So in my mind, I have a few explanation on why it just doesn't happen to all of the guys in here:
*Danish girls are just more relaxed about it - still makes me wonder, cause i also experienced random flexes from a few girls from Ireland and germany.
*Some guys are just not that much around girls, even if they go out, they tend to stay around other guys - still makes me wonder, cause this was in a class, and I remember from earlier years armwrestling some of the girls from elementary school, and again, I didn't always play a part in starting the armwrestling.
*Some guys can seem so intense on the subject, that when the random talk ends up on muscles, workout etc. a guy who admire muscles will scare of a girl to flex, because the guy makes the girl unconfertable - still makes me wonder, cause a couple of weeks ago when I was volunteering in a bar at a concert, I just stood there and saw a girl flexing her right bicep two times while talking to another girl, I had nothing to do with it, i was just there.
I don't know why im writing this, im just wondering why some guys say they have never seen a flex in real life, or even been around a girl who had some muscles.
I guess guys who yet has a flex to experience, can ask themself the questions to why they never saw a flex, and maybe persuit some of the ways to get higher chances to experience flexes :D
Sorry for my horrible english :p