I’ll refine my comments to say that MBB isn’t gay as much as it’s homoerotic.
Which isn’t new. The original Olympics were homoerotic. There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with guys admiring the bodies of other men. Bodybuilding is all about the aesthetic appreciation of almost totally naked men. There is no sport or pretense outside of that.
The bummer is the shame associated with it. So guys have to overcompensate and any acknowledgment of this fact has to be suppressed.
Go to the Olympia and you’ll see more bro and macho posturing than a gun show.
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by Chainer★
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Wait, you just chastised the last guy for not paying attention to context, but then when context flies in the face of your argument, you dismiss it wholesale?
Hypocrisy is the biggest signal of a skewed moral compass and honestly when it is as blatant as this it is just rather pathetic and weak.
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ARE YOU THIS FUCKING STUPID???????
Being a registered Republican does NOT mean you have to vote Republican, holy shit. The kid voted Democrat and donated to democratic causes. You can research this for yourself. Learn to read, being registered a certain way does not mean you have to vote that way down the ticket. Also, I like that you are claiming moral high ground when you can't even grasp the concept of hypocrisy.
Wait, you just chastised the last guy for not paying attention to context, but then when context flies in the face of your argument, you dismiss it wholesale?
Hypocrisy is the biggest signal of a skewed moral compass and honestly when it is as blatant as this it is just rather pathetic and weak.
It's why they are consistently compared to a cult.
I'm heavy into the scene, both in bodybuilding (I'm now an amateur competitor) and in female muscle fetish (I'm a schmoe and onlyfans/session customer).
I'm going to say that schmoes are as politically diverse as guys in general. The attraction to strong women and the desire to be submissive to them doesn't necessarily relate to supporting feminism. There's plenty of guys who will pay to lick a woman's biceps and call her goddess in session, but then feel that she should be a tradwife without voting rights outside of it. I think that we truly come in all flavors.
The bodybuilding and fitness world definitely skews conservative. The demographics track with Donald Trump and his appeal. You have a lot of young guys, they are often blue collar and working class, perceived masculinity is a selling point. Without getting too deep into it.. Bodybuilding is conservative for the same reasons UFC is conservative. Take that as you will.
Bodybuilding is very patriarchal, so often times the women who become prominent are going to fit that mold. Some of them are probably conservative for their own reasons, some of them might play up the political angle to gain visibility and points.
I'll put it this way: a single progressive lesbian with a Kamala tshirt will never get the visibility of a blonde straight girl with 2 kids, a husband with a beard, and Trump merchandise from head to toe. Even if the lesbian has 10x the physique of the straight conservative woman.
The best example of bodybuilding's political leaning is its attitude towards gay men. Let's be real here: there are few things LESS gay than men's bodybuilding. And the fans and competitors know it. There are lots of gay MBB's and even more straight MBB's who are more than happy to be gay for pay. But this is a totally taboo subject, even in 2024. You will rarely see an out and proud pro MBB. You just have a stageful of bulging oiled muscular men in tight briefs slapping each other on the ass and secretly doing sessions in Dubai out there pretending that this lifestyle is really straight and alpha.
Sure guys. We believe you, lol.
I have something to confess ya’ll.. I had no idea so many people still viewed MBBs as heterosexual, because back in the early days of Youtube, every single big name on there was making G4P content.. like there was a HUGE exsposal video making the rounds on social media at the time about the connection between male body building, shame and the cam show industry it totally tainted my view of the MBB world, so much so that I honestly have been ignoring them in favor of female bodybuilders for 10 years now! 😆
I think it was just too much to process for me at the time but now I’m sitting here trying to figure out how the male bodybuilding community has managed to reclaim their heterosexual image after all that transpired.. This is truly something that should be studied, wild stuff.
He was "registered" as a Republican which means nothing."
Wait, you just chastised the last guy for not paying attention to context, but then when context flies in the face of your argument, you dismiss it wholesale?
Hypocrisy is the biggest signal of a skewed moral compass and honestly when it is as blatant as this it is just rather pathetic and weak.
Conservative ideology is to look at one's self and realise that to win or succeed is one's own responsibility and that an individual's hard work is key to success. Progressive or Liberal ideology is that everyone else to blame for that individual's shortcomings or failure, their race, their gender or lack of privilege which is obviously a far lazier outlook. That's a polite way of saying that "Progressive" people are more likely to be lazy and lack dedication which obviously isn't going to help build a good body. This is of course a generalization and not the case for all but like it or not it's true.
You should know that number. It's well documented. Start with ACLED
Lmao
An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement
The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).
I'm heavy into the scene, both in bodybuilding (I'm now an amateur competitor) and in female muscle fetish (I'm a schmoe and onlyfans/session customer).
I'm going to say that schmoes are as politically diverse as guys in general. The attraction to strong women and the desire to be submissive to them doesn't necessarily relate to supporting feminism. There's plenty of guys who will pay to lick a woman's biceps and call her goddess in session, but then feel that she should be a tradwife without voting rights outside of it. I think that we truly come in all flavors.
The bodybuilding and fitness world definitely skews conservative. The demographics track with Donald Trump and his appeal. You have a lot of young guys, they are often blue collar and working class, perceived masculinity is a selling point. Without getting too deep into it.. Bodybuilding is conservative for the same reasons UFC is conservative. Take that as you will.
Bodybuilding is very patriarchal, so often times the women who become prominent are going to fit that mold. Some of them are probably conservative for their own reasons, some of them might play up the political angle to gain visibility and points.
I'll put it this way: a single progressive lesbian with a Kamala tshirt will never get the visibility of a blonde straight girl with 2 kids, a husband with a beard, and Trump merchandise from head to toe. Even if the lesbian has 10x the physique of the straight conservative woman.
The best example of bodybuilding's political leaning is its attitude towards gay men. Let's be real here: there are few things LESS gay than men's bodybuilding. And the fans and competitors know it. There are lots of gay MBB's and even more straight MBB's who are more than happy to be gay for pay. But this is a totally taboo subject, even in 2024. You will rarely see an out and proud pro MBB. You just have a stageful of bulging oiled muscular men in tight briefs slapping each other on the ass and secretly doing sessions in Dubai out there pretending that this lifestyle is really straight and alpha.
I don’t really view myself as a “conservative”, but I am attracted to virtue attainment and eudaimonic principles. Strength itself is a virtue, so to see a woman choose to make her body more powerful is a massive turn on to me. What a lot of people call “conservative” nowadays would have been considered center-left just a decade ago
I think it's because some conservatives are against women doing sports and diverting from gender roles. like a while ago this British idiot made a video were he thought liking women with abs is degenerate and will lead to the collapse of civilization. and while they complain about women being too picky while choosing a husband. they indirectly encourage women to be more elitist and toxic. like they say women need a strong rich man so that they don't have to work. but while most women want that some may have a fetish and want to go for more submissive men or weaker men. but they may end up surpressing that desire.
I am not sure why so many fbbs are conservative. I guess it's because they are so strong and hardworking they don't think they will ever need welfare even if they don't agree with the social attitudes. a lot of people are jumping on political bandwagons now
Bingo. It's only getting worse. Half of the country thinks the other half of the country is subhuman. Whether one side is Nazis and the other side is good, or one side is pedophiles and the other side is good, it's all hyperbolic.
We vote one way or the other and sky doesn't fall, corporations still fund all the candidates at state and national levels. We all agree on the vast majority of topics, but there's no chance of unity because who wants to team up with Nazis or pedophiles? "We the people" end up at each other's throats while corporate overlords raid and pillage to increase personal profits.
Ohio State vs Michigan, Liverpool vs Manchester United, etc. Your team has no redeeming value. Our hooligans are a classy bunch and yours are degenerates.
Well put brother. I'm checking out of this conversation because I can feel myself getting heated. Take care 🤙
Politics really have no room on a muscle fetish site...
Bingo. It's only getting worse. Half of the country thinks the other half of the country is subhuman. Whether one side is Nazis and the other side is good, or one side is pedophiles and the other side is good, it's all hyperbolic.
We vote one way or the other and sky doesn't fall, corporations still fund all the candidates at state and national levels. We all agree on the vast majority of topics, but there's no chance of unity because who wants to team up with Nazis or pedophiles? "We the people" end up at each other's throats while corporate overlords raid and pillage to increase personal profits.
Ohio State vs Michigan, Liverpool vs Manchester United, etc. Your team has no redeeming value. Our hooligans are a classy bunch and yours are degenerates.
The kid was a messed up individual who spouted right wing nonsense in class. But yea - he shot Trump due to the left's "violent" rhetoric.
Meanwhile, guys like Trump have been advocating for violence since the 80s.
Trump's rhetoric lead to the Capitol being invaded by a bunch of lunatics, chanting "hang Mike Pence", overturn the election and probably kill some Dems too cause they're so unhinged.
No mention of the 580 BLM riots pitting neighbor against neighbor with numerous deaths, but Jan 6 bothers you?
He was "registered" as a Republican which means nothing, you can still vote however you want. Also, Thomas Matthew Crooks donated several times to democratic causes including several to "act blue" which is an extreme left activist group. Thomas Crooks was part of several of these groups. His donations are public access, you can look them up. I see you drink the mainstream Kool-aid but get confused with the details.
Politics really have no room on a muscle fetish site, but I see many people on here who are ignorant as shit, and I will call you on it.
Fantasizing about shooting people? What he said is that warhawks like Liz Cheney would think twice about sending our children to war if she had a gun pointed at her, or if she had to serve. The context is - if the shoe was on the other foot. And remember, Trump WAS shot due to the left's violent rhetoric. Do you purposely take things out of context or are you that fucking stupid?
The kid that shot Trump was a right wing spewing lunatic! He was one of theirs! This is the kind of stuff you need to be paying close attention to.
The kid was a messed up individual who spouted right wing nonsense in class. But yea - he shot Trump due to the left's "violent" rhetoric.
Meanwhile, guys like Trump have been advocating for violence since the 80s.
Trump's rhetoric lead to the Capitol being invaded by a bunch of lunatics, chanting "hang Mike Pence", overturn the election and probably kill some Dems too cause they're so unhinged.
Are you kidding? Trump phantasizes about shooting people, e.g. Liz Cheney or immigrants in general and you argue with a squirrel?
Remember Peanut’s name, save your pets! Vote for Trump!
Fantasizing about shooting people? What he said is that warhawks like Liz Cheney would think twice about sending our children to war if she had a gun pointed at her, or if she had to serve. The context is - if the shoe was on the other foot. And remember, Trump WAS shot due to the left's violent rhetoric. Do you purposely take things out of context or are you that fucking stupid?
Over compensation.
I’ll refine my comments to say that MBB isn’t gay as much as it’s homoerotic.
Which isn’t new. The original Olympics were homoerotic. There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with guys admiring the bodies of other men. Bodybuilding is all about the aesthetic appreciation of almost totally naked men. There is no sport or pretense outside of that.
The bummer is the shame associated with it. So guys have to overcompensate and any acknowledgment of this fact has to be suppressed.
Go to the Olympia and you’ll see more bro and macho posturing than a gun show.
NOTE: user was banned for this comment - Chainer
ARE YOU THIS FUCKING STUPID??????? Being a registered Republican does NOT mean you have to vote Republican, holy shit. The kid voted Democrat and donated to democratic causes. You can research this for yourself. Learn to read, being registered a certain way does not mean you have to vote that way down the ticket. Also, I like that you are claiming moral high ground when you can't even grasp the concept of hypocrisy.
It's why they are consistently compared to a cult.
I have something to confess ya’ll.. I had no idea so many people still viewed MBBs as heterosexual, because back in the early days of Youtube, every single big name on there was making G4P content.. like there was a HUGE exsposal video making the rounds on social media at the time about the connection between male body building, shame and the cam show industry it totally tainted my view of the MBB world, so much so that I honestly have been ignoring them in favor of female bodybuilders for 10 years now! 😆
I think it was just too much to process for me at the time but now I’m sitting here trying to figure out how the male bodybuilding community has managed to reclaim their heterosexual image after all that transpired.. This is truly something that should be studied, wild stuff.
Wait, you just chastised the last guy for not paying attention to context, but then when context flies in the face of your argument, you dismiss it wholesale?
Hypocrisy is the biggest signal of a skewed moral compass and honestly when it is as blatant as this it is just rather pathetic and weak.
Cool story bro
This feels like a total roll reversal, usually I’m the odd one out for not drinking 😂
Sorry to be a buzz kill my brother in legs, maybe one one will come by to help you out soon.
Lmao
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I'm heavy into the scene, both in bodybuilding (I'm now an amateur competitor) and in female muscle fetish (I'm a schmoe and onlyfans/session customer).
I'm going to say that schmoes are as politically diverse as guys in general. The attraction to strong women and the desire to be submissive to them doesn't necessarily relate to supporting feminism. There's plenty of guys who will pay to lick a woman's biceps and call her goddess in session, but then feel that she should be a tradwife without voting rights outside of it. I think that we truly come in all flavors.
The bodybuilding and fitness world definitely skews conservative. The demographics track with Donald Trump and his appeal. You have a lot of young guys, they are often blue collar and working class, perceived masculinity is a selling point. Without getting too deep into it.. Bodybuilding is conservative for the same reasons UFC is conservative. Take that as you will.
Bodybuilding is very patriarchal, so often times the women who become prominent are going to fit that mold. Some of them are probably conservative for their own reasons, some of them might play up the political angle to gain visibility and points.
I'll put it this way: a single progressive lesbian with a Kamala tshirt will never get the visibility of a blonde straight girl with 2 kids, a husband with a beard, and Trump merchandise from head to toe. Even if the lesbian has 10x the physique of the straight conservative woman.
The best example of bodybuilding's political leaning is its attitude towards gay men. Let's be real here: there are few things LESS gay than men's bodybuilding. And the fans and competitors know it. There are lots of gay MBB's and even more straight MBB's who are more than happy to be gay for pay. But this is a totally taboo subject, even in 2024. You will rarely see an out and proud pro MBB. You just have a stageful of bulging oiled muscular men in tight briefs slapping each other on the ass and secretly doing sessions in Dubai out there pretending that this lifestyle is really straight and alpha.
Sure guys. We believe you, lol.
You don't drink, either. Great. Nobody here drinks except me. I'm the king of the gaddam universe.
I don’t really view myself as a “conservative”, but I am attracted to virtue attainment and eudaimonic principles. Strength itself is a virtue, so to see a woman choose to make her body more powerful is a massive turn on to me. What a lot of people call “conservative” nowadays would have been considered center-left just a decade ago
Okay then. Enjoy your ANTIFA and BLM post election celebrations.
I think it's because some conservatives are against women doing sports and diverting from gender roles. like a while ago this British idiot made a video were he thought liking women with abs is degenerate and will lead to the collapse of civilization. and while they complain about women being too picky while choosing a husband. they indirectly encourage women to be more elitist and toxic. like they say women need a strong rich man so that they don't have to work. but while most women want that some may have a fetish and want to go for more submissive men or weaker men. but they may end up surpressing that desire.
I am not sure why so many fbbs are conservative. I guess it's because they are so strong and hardworking they don't think they will ever need welfare even if they don't agree with the social attitudes. a lot of people are jumping on political bandwagons now
Well put brother. I'm checking out of this conversation because I can feel myself getting heated. Take care 🤙
Bingo. It's only getting worse. Half of the country thinks the other half of the country is subhuman. Whether one side is Nazis and the other side is good, or one side is pedophiles and the other side is good, it's all hyperbolic.
We vote one way or the other and sky doesn't fall, corporations still fund all the candidates at state and national levels. We all agree on the vast majority of topics, but there's no chance of unity because who wants to team up with Nazis or pedophiles? "We the people" end up at each other's throats while corporate overlords raid and pillage to increase personal profits.
Ohio State vs Michigan, Liverpool vs Manchester United, etc. Your team has no redeeming value. Our hooligans are a classy bunch and yours are degenerates.
You should know that number. It's well documented. Start with ACLED
Where did you get that alleged number?
No mention of the 580 BLM riots pitting neighbor against neighbor with numerous deaths, but Jan 6 bothers you?
He was "registered" as a Republican which means nothing, you can still vote however you want. Also, Thomas Matthew Crooks donated several times to democratic causes including several to "act blue" which is an extreme left activist group. Thomas Crooks was part of several of these groups. His donations are public access, you can look them up. I see you drink the mainstream Kool-aid but get confused with the details.
Politics really have no room on a muscle fetish site, but I see many people on here who are ignorant as shit, and I will call you on it.
The kid that shot Trump was a right wing spewing lunatic! He was one of theirs! This is the kind of stuff you need to be paying close attention to.
The kid was a messed up individual who spouted right wing nonsense in class. But yea - he shot Trump due to the left's "violent" rhetoric.
Meanwhile, guys like Trump have been advocating for violence since the 80s.
Trump's rhetoric lead to the Capitol being invaded by a bunch of lunatics, chanting "hang Mike Pence", overturn the election and probably kill some Dems too cause they're so unhinged.
Fantasizing about shooting people? What he said is that warhawks like Liz Cheney would think twice about sending our children to war if she had a gun pointed at her, or if she had to serve. The context is - if the shoe was on the other foot. And remember, Trump WAS shot due to the left's violent rhetoric. Do you purposely take things out of context or are you that fucking stupid?