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I would be lying if I said I didn’t feel this way, I’ve liked FBBs since I was in elementary school and I’m in my early 20’s now. Based on reactions I’ve seen from people whenever FBBs end up being seen outside this side of the internet people in the comments usually say that if you’re into women that look like this, that your probably closeted gay or bisexual. I like muscular women of all sizes but my preference is heavyweight FBBs, the bigger the better imo. But if I were ever to get the opportunity to date a Fbb I’d be embarrassed of people finding out and try to keep it a secret because to frank I’m scared of people judging my sexuality. Of course I still like women who aren’t super muscular like in these pics so I’ve always just stuck to what’s considered the norm because I know it’d be detrimental to my personal & familial relationships.
So, practical advice, combining the above two.
You've got plenty of time. No need to rush into anything.
If you don't have a lot of experience with relationships or dating, spend some time building that up. If necessary, don't date at all for now. Just meet people. Expand your social circle. Guys, girls, older people, and so on. Pick up a new hobby or two, join a club. You'll meet people that way, and if necessary you can develop your social skills.
Do interesting stuff. Go places. Read books. Do cool things (and "cool" doesn't have to mean "expensive"). That will make you a more interesting - and attractive - person, although you shouldn't do those things for dating purposes.
Take care of your physical and mental health. You don't have to be perfect, but you'll find that as you get older your stock will rise relative to those around you who don't take care of themselves. Women will gravitate toward that.
Now, as far as physical attributes of women, if you're really into athletic, buff women...
It's one thing to look at pictures online. But when you meet somebody in person, it just hits different. Even a small amount of muscle looks way more impressive when you see it in real life. Somebody whose pictures would get deleted from this site for "Not enough visible muscularity" can still look damn good when they're standing in front of you. And if you have something in common with them, they look even better still. I don't know how to explain it, but it's a thing.
My most recent ex-gf was fairly fit. Certainly not of the caliber of the women on this site. But when she would fix her hair she had some visible definition on her arms. No visible abs (although she said she had them for a while when she was younger and doing multiple spin classes per week... something that she couldn't maintain with all the other stuff going on in her life). But if I put my hand on her stomach and got her to laugh, I could feel her abs. Man, was that an instant trip to Bonerville. She wasn't super strong (I could beat her at pretty much anything) but she was strong enough to give me a little competition. I'd actually have to put some effort in (unlike most of my previous gfs). That was a turn-on for me, although I don't think she quite understood. (Very long story there...)
Anyway, my point is that if you're looking for athletic women, you should broaden your horizons. Join a more boutique gym with a more social aspect to it (like Crossfit). Maybe rock climbing, martial arts, or some other athletic activity.
To repeat: DO NOT do this to meet women. Do this because it's something you enjoy. And don't instantly creep on the women. Talk to the guys. Talk to the older people. Talk to the women you don't find attractive. Be sociable. At the very least you'll make some new friends, and develop your social skills. And while you're doing all of this, you can chat up some of the attractive women too. Maybe something happens, maybe it doesn't. At worst, you're having a good time and making new friends.
No, you're probably not going to meet many people whose pics could be on GWM, but you'll meet a lot of athletic, shapely people. And when you meet them in person, and have things in common with them, it just hits different.
Plus, even if they're athletic, even muscular, it's likely to be at a more "socially acceptable" level that won't get you the comments from your "friends" or family. (Again, as an older guy, I assure you things are way different than they were 20-25 years ago. Women are walking around now with a level of muscle that would have drawn stares - in a bad way - back in the 90's or early 2000's. Now it's quite acceptable, and even mainstream guys find them hot. You're living in the golden age, my friend...)
I logged in because I read this and it was beautifully written.
You'd be surprised at how little it takes sometimes. The brain tricks itself sometimes into this all or nothing mentality.
I had a girlfriend who was 120 lbs soaking wet, small as a straw, but she danced and had strong glutes that she could flex. This was all I needed from her. Never pushed her to get bigger, to go to the gym.
Changing perspective and broadening your horizon when it comes to what you define athletic women as will make seeking one out much easier in the real world. You'd be surprised, that skinny girl that you walk by in the gym may have a killer back, tight glutes, or a nice v-line that might turn you on as much as these photos may.
I've been in a similar boat as you. I've sessioned and had the pleasure of, eh, pleasure with these women. It actually broke me away from fetishizing as much as I did once I realized that, whether its through the site or in real life, it all has the same ending. Not to mention, the physical effects of this lifestyle don't show up well in photos. In reality it's a different ball game.
I would be lying if I said I didn’t feel this way, I’ve liked FBBs since I was in elementary school and I’m in my early 20’s now. Based on reactions I’ve seen from people whenever FBBs end up being seen outside this side of the internet people in the comments usually say that if you’re into women that look like this, that your probably closeted gay or bisexual. I like muscular women of all sizes but my preference is heavyweight FBBs, the bigger the better imo. But if I were ever to get the opportunity to date a Fbb I’d be embarrassed of people finding out and try to keep it a secret because to frank I’m scared of people judging my sexuality. Of course I still like women who aren’t super muscular like in these pics so I’ve always just stuck to what’s considered the norm because I know it’d be detrimental to my personal & familial relationships.
That is what I always feared. The computer guys at the companies I worked at in the 1999 on era all knew. One was a big company after the financial crisis and had all the femuscle sites blocked. I used to look while at work with an awareness of who was around. I had a chance to shoot a video with a name bodybuilder but did not want my name on it or quite frankly get into the costs. She was a huge name at the time. She said yes right away to my idea. That was in person. She even asked the video guy I was going to use about it later. I never followed up. I discussed it later with a girl for a custom but did not feel it was worth the time to even try it. I showed her the Popeye cartoon I gave a pic of earlier in this threat and she said she felt that could be her as the blonde muscle girl pounding Olive. This was only 7 or 8 years ago. The first girl was when I was 38 or so. A ways back for me.
I logged in because I read this and it was beautifully written.
You'd be surprised at how little it takes sometimes. The brain tricks itself sometimes into this all or nothing mentality.
I had a girlfriend who was 120 lbs soaking wet, small as a straw, but she danced and had strong glutes that she could flex. This was all I needed from her. Never pushed her to get bigger, to go to the gym.
Changing perspective and broadening your horizon when it comes to what you define athletic women as will make seeking one out much easier in the real world. You'd be surprised, that skinny girl that you walk by in the gym may have a killer back, tight glutes, or a nice v-line that might turn you on as much as these photos may.
I've been in a similar boat as you. I've sessioned and had the pleasure of, eh, pleasure with these women. It actually broke me away from fetishizing as much as I did once I realized that, whether its through the site or in real life, it all has the same ending. Not to mention, the physical effects of this lifestyle don't show up well in photos. In reality it's a different ball game.
I find some of that rings true. I never sessioned but bought many videos and attended events where massive fbbs were as I was lucky the NY area was a hotbed for the WSE and top fbbs in the 90's and early 2000-10. I did find the same thing in that as I went to the shows....sometimes that would lead to me taking a break. Praying is my go to now.
I find my core fantasy is still the same one. I like girls who are feminine (as much as possible) but cross over into huge muscles and fighting. I still have the fantasy around the cocky skinny girl being beaten to a pulp by the muscle girl and often over a guy.
This kind of thing below. I guess I am the guy here in a way. The girl is a random muscle girl who is my secret dream girl and this is a few scenes in to the cartoon. She scoops me up and my skinny model type girlfriend ( had one like her but dropped her due to muscle girls and personality clashes. She loved me more than I her.) The other girl now hammers the crap out of the skinny girl and the man is not sure if he should help or admit he loves the muscle girl more and let her finish the job. He lets his old girl go and is obsessed with the amazing size of the muscle girl as she stays beautiful.
The moral is always wanting more. The cartoons were an escape from reality and a bit warped though they had quite a huge following and remark section at DA. I got away from that a few years ago on the advice of my priest and take periods off each year. I always manage to come back though at some point.....usually triggered by looking or thinking about all I have seen over the years. That is the danger of it, though I had a relatively normal social life if not more on the outgoing side. I never told anyone except the people online or at shows or places of other like minded people. My mother knew a little bit when I was growing up and saw some of my early stash of magazines and WPW type stuff. A friend in college asked me about it once too and i gave him the it is just a friend of mine excuse. I never had any issue with people questioning my sexuality or any of that. I'm attracted to all girls. The fetish is more a separate fantasy in my case.
I find some of that rings true. I never sessioned but bought many videos and attended events where massive fbbs were as I was lucky the NY area was a hotbed for the WSE and top fbbs in the 90's and early 2000-10. I did find the same thing in that as I went to the shows....sometimes that would lead to me taking a break. Praying is my go to now.
I find my core fantasy is still the same one. I like girls who are feminine (as much as possible) but cross over into huge muscles and fighting. I still have the fantasy around the cocky skinny girl being beaten to a pulp by the muscle girl and often over a guy.
This kind of thing below. I guess I am the guy here in a way. The girl is a random muscle girl who is my secret dream girl and this is a few scenes in to the cartoon. She scoops me up and my skinny model type girlfriend ( had one like her but dropped her due to muscle girls and personality clashes. She loved me more than I her.) The other girl now hammers the crap out of the skinny girl and the man is not sure if he should help or admit he loves the muscle girl more and let her finish the job. He lets his old girl go and is obsessed with the amazing size of the muscle girl as she stays beautiful.
The moral is always wanting more. The cartoons were an escape from reality and a bit warped though they had quite a huge following and remark section at DA. I got away from that a few years ago on the advice of my priest and take periods off each year. I always manage to come back though at some point.....usually triggered by looking or thinking about all I have seen over the years. That is the danger of it, though I had a relatively normal social life if not more on the outgoing side. I never told anyone except the people online or at shows or places of other like minded people. My mother knew a little bit when I was growing up and saw some of my early stash of magazines and WPW type stuff. A friend in college asked me about it once too and i gave him the it is just a friend of mine excuse. I never had any issue with people questioning my sexuality or any of that. I'm attracted to all girls. The fetish is more a separate fantasy in my case.
I understand.
I work out and am very open with what I'm attracted to. But again, I've tempered the fetish vs. reality.
I can go to the gym and find a woman that I know I'll be attracted to, because I'm not looking for a bodybuilder or wellness athlete. I'm looking for the girls who ran track, or the girls who danced or did gymnastics, or the girl next door that has a nice tummy or lean abs, or even the chubby girl that has really nice legs and glutes.
Seeking these bodybuilders and wanting to be in relationships with them will be difficult unless you are either in the lifestyle, are fit, or have money.
It's much easier if you're fit, or in the lifestyle, but without either you'd better make a shit ton of money. Nothing wrong with it, just reality.
It's taking a step back from your fantasy and applying real-world logic to it. Again, I've divulged in enough sessions to understand what this is for me. It's a fetish. If I were to seek an athletic partner in real life they would not look like the mass monsters on this site.
Absolutely. I don’t like the massive FBB’s type girls like that, but there is stigma with girls having muscle. So, I always felt weird having this fetish.
Lots of good advice here. I was attracted (pun NOT intended) to something that 'phenoms' said. Something about women being able to gain muscle naturally occurring more than some might think. I agree.
During my dating years, I dated a bodybuilder; a black belt firmly into weight training; and a third woman who just loved the gym. All three had very nice physiques. None of the three EVER touched a single drop, tablet, powder, whatever, of performance enhancing drugs or "roids." Don't believe the baloney put out by some guys, on various clips & photos, about "98% of the women on GwM doing PEDs." They don't have a clue. Oh, I'm still good friends with two of the women. Unfortunately lost track of the third.
I retired from the dating world some years ago. Wasn't meeting the right kind of women and had too many other interests and activities going on to occupy my time. Which gets back to the original advice about look to develop your own life first. And no, muscular women is not a "fetish." For me, it's always been one of many interests in life.
As far as fetishes go, I think this one is fairly tame (from a fitness perspective at least, if you're more into the femdom stuff then I guess my point is moot) because it bleeds over with normal life easily. I like the aesthetics of buff women and the discipline needed to get a body like that, and I feel like that is pretty solid reasoning to an outsider who isn't determined to insult you. I've told my friends about it and they basically didn't care, they at least "got it" even if they didn't agree. Someone who is in shape and takes care of themselves is plenty attractive from an "objective" perspective.
I personally would consider it a fetish and a preference for me, but I don't think it necessarily is a fetish for everyone; it's a fetish for me because seeing an athletic woman does something to me that a conventionally-attractive woman does not, but it's also a preference because I still find conventionally-attractive women attractive with no issues. In fact, cute faces and voices have more of a hold on me than muscles do.
My heart goes out to dudes out there who are into futanari or furries or other things that have no integration into real life. There is no way you can justify chicks with dicks without being called gay, unless maybe if you're a slacker in a 1994 Kevin Smith comedy.
Lots of good advice here. I was attracted (pun NOT intended) to something that 'phenoms' said. Something about women being able to gain muscle naturally occurring more than some might think. I agree.
During my dating years, I dated a bodybuilder; a black belt firmly into weight training; and a third woman who just loved the gym. All three had very nice physiques. None of the three EVER touched a single drop, tablet, powder, whatever, of performance enhancing drugs or "roids." Don't believe the baloney put out by some guys, on various clips & photos, about "98% of the women on GwM doing PEDs." They don't have a clue. Oh, I'm still good friends with two of the women. Unfortunately lost track of the third.
I retired from the dating world some years ago. Wasn't meeting the right kind of women and had too many other interests and activities going on to occupy my time. Which gets back to the original advice about look to develop your own life first. And no, muscular women is not a "fetish." For me, it's always been one of many interests in life.
I agree with your point about many GwM being natural. From personal experience, I’ve learned that you can grow a lot if you dedicate yourself to the gym. I was a skinny kid growing up. Now, I’m 210lbs at 5’7” with a 34 inch waist. A lot of these girls are buff without gear because they love lifting. Mind you, if a girl is twice the size of the average man, they’re most likely on gear. But the idea of 98 percentage of GwM being on gear is ridiculous.
I have never seen it as a curse. Because I'm attracted to regular women too. Muscles just enhance the basic attraction by a lot. Only remorse I have is that I've spent hundereds, if not thousands, of hours in websites like this. I've had so much positive emotions during that time but I probably wouldn't be doing something productive if I didn't have this particular interest.
It is a curse from 2 perspectives. Nothing terrible but from a pool of women, this pool is the smallest in the world. Second, the kind of girls that have bodies like this have other issues. It's a challenge to say the least
I understand.
I work out and am very open with what I'm attracted to. But again, I've tempered the fetish vs. reality.
I can go to the gym and find a woman that I know I'll be attracted to, because I'm not looking for a bodybuilder or wellness athlete. I'm looking for the girls who ran track, or the girls who danced or did gymnastics, or the girl next door that has a nice tummy or lean abs, or even the chubby girl that has really nice legs and glutes.
Seeking these bodybuilders and wanting to be in relationships with them will be difficult unless you are either in the lifestyle, are fit, or have money.
It's much easier if you're fit, or in the lifestyle, but without either you'd better make a shit ton of money. Nothing wrong with it, just reality.
It's taking a step back from your fantasy and applying real-world logic to it. Again, I've divulged in enough sessions to understand what this is for me. It's a fetish. If I were to seek an athletic partner in real life they would not look like the mass monsters on this site.
Me too. I dream of those women, but only a few get the look that I really like enough to be interested in. Thus the art. I did have one famous fbb who was very good looking make positive comments and contact me back a day later after meeting her. I did get the feeling she liked my look ( she said so) but also the feeling she wanted someone with money. I was intrigued yet realized she would not be a fit in my real life. I had a girl and in addition she would not have mixed well with my colleagues or friends over the long haul. I keep it as a fetish in that sense. The PEDS alone would be reason to run.
As far as being attracted to FBBs...
Here's an exercise to try.
It sounds like you are fascinated with the idea of dating or being in a relationship with a world-class FBB, of the type you see on this site.
Note that I said "the idea of," because the reality might be quite different from the idea.
Any woman in that kind of shape (insert name of your favorite FBB here), their life is going to revolve around training, the gym, dieting, and so on.
And they're extraordinarily rare, maybe 0.01% of the population. While yes, women like that aren't viewed as attractive by a lot of guys, there are a whole lot of guys (like us) who do. They've got plenty of options.
But let's say you meet (insert name of favorite FBB), and you hit it off and she thinks you're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Now you want to go on a dinner date. Maybe a weekend getaway. Vacation someplace. Whatever it is, it's going to have to be scheduled around her training, etc.
Maybe you're fine with that, but maybe it's certainly not what you think of when you browse the site and see somebody who looks phenomenal, and imagine what it's like to spend a night with them.
But wait, that's just the start.
This woman is also almost certainly on a stack of gear as high as the Eiffel Tower (particularly if she's as built as your post seems to indicate). Plus supplements, plus gym memberships, coaching fees, and so on. Most likely thousands of dollars per month.
Think about where that money comes from. Does she have a high-paying job? If so, that's something else your relationship would have to be scheduled around.
Maybe she makes money from sessions / OF. So that's a reality that exists in your relationship. Maybe you're fine with that, and no judgment at all whether you are or not, but you need to be aware.
Or maybe she's looking for a sugar daddy (i.e. you) to finance her lifestyle. No judgment if that's what you're looking for, but I see that as a transactional relationship, perhaps not that much different from paying for sessions (and likely cheaper in the long term).
So there's that. But wait, that's not even the biggest issue.
I can understand people having expensive, expansive, hobbies or lifestyles. If somebody wants to spend their hard-earned money on things they love, advancing themselves, and so on, I respect the hell out of that. It might be a difficult lifestyle to be in a relationship with somebody like that, but I respect the shit out of them for doing their thing.
That's where social media comes in. This isn't going to be true of all FBBs, for sure, but is for the ones you're most likely to be exposed to online. And that's how much of their life and their sense of self-worth revolves around social media. Everyplace you go they'll constantly be looking for the perfect picture for instagram, changing multiple outfits per night, pictures of this, pictures of that, and then spending hours kvetching about how many likes this post got, or who commented this or that, and whatever other online drama consumes their consciousness (and, by extension, yours as their partner).
Now that's something I have a really hard time dealing with. Again, there are plenty of FBBs who wouldn't fall into that category, but a lot definitely would.
Maybe the reality of being in a relationship with a world-class FBB isn't quite what you think it is. Maybe you're fine with all of those things, but maybe you're not. The grass isn't always greener.
At the end of the day, if all you really have is a sexual fetish, then sessions might be an outlet for that. (I know you don't think highly of that, but it might not be all that much different from a transactional relationship, or one where your gf is regularly doing sessions with other guys or showing her cooter online to strangers for money.)
Or just browse GWM and concentrate on the good parts of the fantasy, while you live your best life on the outside.
Well written reality check here.
On balance, it's an unhealthy attraction trigger. I don't think it should inspire self-hatred since it's something that can't really be controlled. Ideally, I'd be attracted to women who are 1) all too common; 2) widely regarded as undesirable. That would eliminate a lot of competition. Then again, from the perspective of pure self-interest, I suppose the optimal wish is to eliminate the vast majority of males. If there were only one guy on earth, he'd either be a king or a sex slave.