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> Are you kidding? Trump phantasizes about shooting people, e.g. Liz Cheney or immigrants in general and you argue with a squirrel? > > Remember Peanut’s name, save your pets! Vote for Trump!
Fantasizing about shooting people? What he said is that warhawks like Liz Cheney would think twice about sending our children to war if she had a gun pointed at her, or if she had to serve. The context is - if the shoe was on the other foot. And remember, Trump WAS shot due to the left's violent rhetoric. Do you purposely take things out of context or are you that fucking stupid?
He was shot due to his own violent rhetoric. For instance, he recently said that he doesn't care if the media gets shot. It's that type of rhetoric that creates the type of climate we're in now. But, his supporters will never hold him accountable for anything.
Exhibit A - Trump will say the most ridiculous, hateful, untrue things. (DON'T ask me for examples. There are far too many to keep track of)
Trump supporter - "He didn't mean that" OR "I didn't hear him say that. I don't think he ever said that" OR "He's not wrong. Only he can speak the truth"
On a side note, as much as I don't want him to win, we are far too early to do a victory lap for Harris. Some of you are being way too overconfident that she will win.
Kamala is more conservative than Trump will ever be.
Trump is anti-2A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du4xz6Lndxk
Trump Calls for Linking New Gun Control Legislation to Immigration Reform
reason.com/2019/08/05/trump-calls-for-linking-new-gun-control-legislation-to-immigration-reform/
Keep your eye on one thing and one thing only: how much government is spending," economist Milton Friedman famously said during the Carter administration. "Because that's the true tax.
Under Trump's signature, even before the coronavirus, the sticker price on that annual levy was jacked up by almost $1 trillion.
reason.com/2020/10/04/the-case-against-trump-donald-trump-is-an-enemy-of-freedom/?itm_source=parsely-api
President Donald Trump said it should be easier to confiscate people's guns when they are deemed a threat to others. That prescription may or may not prevent any murders, but it will certainly hurt many innocent Americans by depriving them of their Second Amendment rights.
reason.com/2019/08/07/red-flag-laws-leave-gun-owners-defenseless/
Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years
propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump
Republicans favor small government, MAGA does not.
"We need to take guns first and go through due process second." - Trump 2018
I like how you post that quote with 0 context, like it was a blanket statement in regards to all Americans. This quote was a direct response to Nikolas Cruz the mass shooter of Parkland who used an AR-15. Trump was talking in terms of expediting his case doe maximum penalties. Juxtapose that with Harris who made statements regarding ALL Americans like mandatory gun buy backs, and "assault" weapons bans. You cherry picked every argument in every single link and stopped short of context. Harris would be the president you deserve.
I voted against Trump because I really despise him but my gut feeling is that he probably pulls off a narrow win. The inflation/cost of living crisis has really hurt the Democrats with the middle class suburbanites and urban working class voters they need to win
Yeah that's my concern too. As James Carville said, it's the economy, stupid!
The irony of course is that Trump had little to do with the health of the economy while he was in office and everyone conveniently forgets that the inflation and all the rest that was triggered by COVID began on his watch. House and rent wasn't affordable under him either and crime was actually HIGHER.
These people have selective memory. Not to mention the fact that 99/100 economists will tell you that tariffs and a trade war are an absolute shit strategy if you're trying to lower the price of consumer goods. I guess people also forget about the tariffs Trump did on China while he was in office. They resulted in retaliatory tariffs that hurt American farmers so badly that Trump needed to push through a huge $40 billion relief package for them. Not that he's a person who learns from his mistakes....
This shit is going to get UGLY if this decrepit 79 year old oompa-loompa gets re-elected. No wonder the Heritage Foundation wants to abolish the Department of Education. Without stupid people, Trump wouldn't have a change of getting elected.
Harris would be the president you deserve.
As opposed to Trump who left office with an unemployment rate above 6% (reached a high over 14%) and ran up 7.8 trillion in national debt (for CONTEXT, that led to massive inflation)
Now please, explain away how high unemployment was actually genius and Trump is your Cheeto crusted God.
The thought of a Harris presidency is terrifying.
Only if you're listening the echo chamber full of retards shrieking about communism and socialism and Willie Brown.
If you actually look at platforms and what these candidates have said and done, there is only one rational choice and it ain't Trump.
How do you explain how virtually every person who served in his cabinet, all the "best people" that he hand-picked, lifelong Republicans and dyed-in-the-wool conservatives DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP now?
Can you think of a time when that has ever happened to any other presidential candidate?
Can you think of a time when major standard-bearers from the opposite party backed the other party's candidate the way so many Republicans are backing Harris. You can't call them all RINOs. Dick Cheney is no RINO.
So, either Trumo is a buffoon or absolutely everyone else is a secret deep state socialist RINO conspirator. Which seems more likely?
It's honestly terrifying seeing my fellow countrymen fully indoctrinated like this. No matter what happens, it's going to take 10+ years to undo the cancer that Trump has metastasized throughout the body politic. The GOP needs a MAGA-ectomy because this shit is terminal.
I would love to see how all the yes-men and sycophants like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz and all the others who Trump insulted and humiliated rationalize getting in line and huffing his farts now. I guess power is more important than having a shred of integrity for some people.
I like how you post that quote with 0 context, like it was a blanket statement in regards to all Americans. This quote was a direct response to Nikolas Cruz the mass shooter of Parkland who used an AR-15. Trump was talking in terms of expediting his case doe maximum penalties. Juxtapose that with Harris who made statements regarding ALL Americans like mandatory gun buy backs, and "assault" weapons bans. You cherry picked every argument in every single link and stopped short of context. Harris would be the president you deserve.
No. I posted the full video for context, and the full context is even worse. Trump was questioned about the difficulty of passing gun laws due to the NRA, to which he replied that he's not worried about the NRA.
The gun confiscation he's referring to involves red flag laws, which he is a vocal proponent of. Red flag laws apply to ALL Americans, as they grant (potentially liberal) judges the authority to deem who is and is not fit to own a firearm based on extremely vague and subjective criteria.
Trump, at his core, is a populist. He goes with whatever popular opinion is at the time. In the face of mass shootings and increased demand for stricter gun regulation, he has consistently turned away from the Second Amendment. That being said, if your commitment to the Second Amendment wavers in the face of adversity, then you were never a true advocate to begin with.
Additionally, Trump has been anti-gun his entire life, before he even ran for President he was advocating for gun bans.
Like I said, they're both terrible candidates. The thing is, why take the volatility and division Trump brings when he's liberal on guns and the economy. What am I gaining from him? It would be an entirely different story if he was actually a staunch conservative. Then, it would be worth the headache he brings. But that's not the case.
Trump's AG, William Barr:
“Gun owners are very disappointed that President Trump’s nominee for Attorney General is a committed, gun control advocate. Barr says that the ‘single most important thing’ he can do in the area of gun control is to support Red Flag Gun Confiscation Orders, which have already resulted in the death of an innocent gun owner in Maryland.
gunowners.org/goa-statement-william-barr/
Barr supports Gun Confiscation Orders: “… it is critical that we get an effective system in place that keeps firearms out of the hands of mentally ill people… A key part of any such system are laws that allow ‘Extreme Risk Protection Orders’ [aka Gun Confiscation Orders].” (Barr answer to Sen. Cornyn Question #1.)
Barr explains why he could still support the semi-auto and magazine bans that he supported in 1991: ”I would look for … whether [the] burden [of a gun-control measure] has a sufficiently meaningful impact on crime to justify burdening a fundamental right…” (Barr answer to Sen. Kennedy Question #3.)
Barr supports the Lautenberg misdemeanor gun ban, which takes guns away from people who engaged in shouting matches in the home: “I look forward to working with you and the Committee on this important issue.” (Barr answer to Sen. Feinstein Question #46.)
gunowners.org/barr-doubles-down/
Just to make it clear, under these Orwellian Gun Confiscation Orders, a “secret court” can strip a gun owner of his constitutional rights based on a showing as low as “reasonable” suspicion that the person is “dangerous.”
gunowners.org/alert11619/
How do you explain how virtually every person who served in his cabinet, all the "best people" that he hand-picked, lifelong Republicans and dyed-in-the-wool conservatives DO NOT SUPPORT TRUMP now?
Can you think of a time when major standard-bearers from the opposite party backed the other party's candidate the way so many Republicans are backing Harris. You can't call them all RINOs. Dick Cheney is no RINO.
Dick Cheney is the closest to Palpatine I've seen in real life. I am shocked Harris is so proud to have his support. A lot of guys my age lost life and limb to IEDs in the desert based on his lies (to enrich himself and his friends).
At least we can all agree he's a piece of shit right? I highly doubt he turned 80 and grew a conscience.
Dick Cheney is worse a far worse person and leader than Trump. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people are dead or permanently injured directly because of Dick Cheney. He is legitimately evil and I can't believe he's is so warmly embraced after a few years out of the public eye.
Dick Cheney is the closest to Palpatine I've seen in real life. I am shocked Harris is so proud to have his support. A lot of guys my age lost life and limb to IEDs in the desert based on his lies (to enrich himself and his friends).
At least we can all agree he's a piece of shit right? I highly doubt he turned 80 and grew a conscience.
Dick Cheney is worse a far worse person and leader than Trump. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people are dead or permanently injured directly because of Dick Cheney. He is legitimately evil and I can't believe he's is so warmly embraced after a few years out of the public eye.
So you run to complaining about Dick Cheney regardless of the fact that he has little to do with anything today. Grasping at straws are we? Trying your best to cover for Trump saying --- in front of millions, that his daughter should be killed....and that journalists should be shot...amongst many other extremely violent rhetoric he has been employing? Good Lord!
So you run to complaining about Dick Cheney regardless of the fact that he has little to do with anything today. Grasping at straws are we?
The person I responded to literally mentioned Dick Cheney... That's what is quoted above my response.
Harris mentioned Dick Cheney's support during the presidential debate and at rallys. I'm not sure how that's grasping at straws.
Look, I can go to Twitter to have disingenuous political debates with strangers. I don't see how falsely accusing me of grasping at straws is productive. I don't understand why you're so supportive of Dick Cheney. I guess I'm just against war and I feel sympathy for the thousands of dead Iraqi children and American soldiers.
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Yes, lying about WMDs and causing a decades long war is worse than saying mean things on Twitter. I have not expressed support for Trump or Harris. I have only expressed disdain for Cheney. I am reasonable and consistent. I have provided references to my claims below.
I get you want your team to win, but Dick Cheney is literally an unrepentant war criminal. He is the only person involved who still refuses to admit the Iraq invasion was a mistake.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071217221900/ht...
https://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-chen...
> > > > > > > > Very well put. > > > > And for the people wondering what Kamala is running on.... > > > > 1. She plans to try and fight inflation and interest rates to help our money go further. > > 2. Significantly increase corporate taxes. Avoid increasing taxes on Americans making less than $400k. And increase tax credits for new parents. > > 3. Support Ukraine > > > > to name a few things > > People claiming to not know what her platform is are being purposefully ignorant, or just trolls. The information is out there, on her website, her rallies, etc.
It is fair criticism, she has not done a good job of communicating what her exact plans are. For instance, what is her plan for solving the immigration crisis? We know Trump wants violent mass deportation, which is obviously horrible, but what is Kamala's approach to the problem?
She has said numerous times that she plans on signing the bill that was proposed at the beginning of the year into law on day 1. She's not the problem. It's the media that's not communicating anything other than Trump's insane rhetoric
335 million peeps in one of the mightiest country's of the world and the choices are a maybe slightly narcissistic 78 year old man and a probably a little senile 81 year old who's quickly replaced by a 60 year old woman who stepped to late into the race if you ask me. Ok for a banana republic but for a world power?
Dangerous amusement.....
I hope that she wins
The person I responded to literally mentioned Dick Cheney... That's what is quoted above my response.
Harris mentioned Dick Cheney's support during the presidential debate and at rallys. I'm not sure how that's grasping at straws.
Look, I can go to Twitter to have disingenuous political debates with strangers. I don't see how falsely accusing me of grasping at straws is productive. I don't understand why you're so supportive of Dick Cheney. I guess I'm just against war and I feel sympathy for the thousands of dead Iraqi children and American soldiers.
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Yes, lying about WMDs and causing a decades long war is worse than saying mean things on Twitter. I have not expressed support for Trump or Harris. I have only expressed disdain for Cheney. I am reasonable and consistent. I have provided references to my claims below.
I get you want your team to win, but Dick Cheney is literally an unrepentant war criminal. He is the only person involved who still refuses to admit the Iraq invasion was a mistake.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071217221900/ht...
https://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-chen...
That is wonderful HeavilyEdited. I now understand your position. Of course, Dick Cheney's term was a long time ago and he is a Republican that had to deal with a Republcan series of wars and mass killings. I am sorry I didn't observe the original item you were responding to --- I am busy here with just seconds to deal with this sort of stuff.
But, we must all keep in mind that when Trump wins and joins with Kim Jong Un, Xi and Putin, an entirely new world of death and destruction will arise....who cares about a repeat of the Depression of the 1920's when everyone is dying anyways.
Dick Cheney is the closest to Palpatine I've seen in real life. I am shocked Harris is so proud to have his support. A lot of guys my age lost life and limb to IEDs in the desert based on his lies (to enrich himself and his friends).
At least we can all agree he's a piece of shit right? I highly doubt he turned 80 and grew a conscience.
Dick Cheney is worse a far worse person and leader than Trump. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people are dead or permanently injured directly because of Dick Cheney. He is legitimately evil and I can't believe he's is so warmly embraced after a few years out of the public eye.
To quote Jon Stewart when the news broke that Cheney was endorsing Harris: "Fuck that guy! Seriously. Fuck that guy!"
That's fine Deadman but you and Jonny are missing the point --- even your most hated iconoclasts are shyting all over Trump. Just that should tell you something.
I'd definitely prefer if Trump didn't win but both parties are basically right wing at this point and I'm tired of pretending they aren't. I still voted but there's no real progressive option and I've lost faith in the system to give us another one. Voting is ultimately a distraction and we should be more focused on what's in front of us and what we can actually do to affect change right now imo (like protesting, strikes, mutual aid, organizing, unionizing, local politics, forming and building communities back up in general).
There is plenty of coverage about the electoral system in the USA here in Austria, but rarely ever something about the process of voting itself. How does that work? To put the whole thing into a context, this is how our national election works ( we do not have a presidental system ... but thats another story.
Is it somehwat similar in the US ?
Trump will have secured and tallied the necessary 270 electoral votes to become the next POTUS before the sun rises Wednesday morning on the East Coast. The final tally most likely won't be known until several days later because the people that run the shows in the blue states need more time to surreptitiously count because that's the only way they know how to come up with enough votes to win. That, and fentanyl is cheap and abundant in all democrat run urban shitholes thanks to our wide open Southern Border. All that and they tend to have very weak math skills due to their 'common core' approach. Remember, these are the same people who SPENT an additional $1,750,000,000,000 above and beyond what was appropriated for the budget TO CURB INFLATION. This time around, however, it won't be as painful for the rest of us to have to watch them go at their own pace because the slacker States results won't make any difference. There will have already been enough results from States that have their shit together to declare Trump as the winner. Trump can win WITHOUT Pennsylvania. Harris CANNOT!.
Tell me again how I don't know what I'm talking about. This was so easy to see for anyone that was looking for the truth. GOD BLESSED AMERICA TODAY.
Honestly, I didn't expect this at all. I'm a fairly liberal guy in a very liberal social bubble, we were all pretty confident Kamala would win with an extremely tight lead. Turns out she's performing worse than Hilary and may even lose the popular vote.
It's way too early to confidently attribute her poor performance to any single factor, but culture war issues (DEI, gender stuff, Harris' own race and gender) and the general divide between college-educated, stuffy urbanites like myself and the working class probably played a big part (similar to 2016). But I've been wrong about basically everything tonight, so my analysis is probably wrong... maybe voters really did care mainly about inflation and immigration.
All I know is Trump has a Republican trifecta and he's about to run the country into the ground. The only silver lining is that he'll likely strengthen support of Israel, which would be a huge deal for me. The Progressive hatred of Israel and its flirtation with antisemitism has really alienated me and contributed to my shift back towards the center.
I don’t know what’s getting ready to happen all I know is that I did my best and I love all of you no matter who you are. Pray for America 🇺🇸
Republicans favor small government, MAGA does not.
"We need to take guns first and go through due process second." - Trump 2018