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I wonder what the guy would have to say for himself?
"Sorry, guys, I saw her and I just had to do something. I guess my brain short-circuited or something because all I could do was follow her. I might have been half-drooling as I brought up pictures of herself to show to her. She acted really weird after that and left in a hurry. I didn't think I was that creepy. Idk, I've never been with a woman before so it's hard to say."
He would have probably also have added: "She seemed really standoffish and stuck up. I don't get why I was just trying to be nice."
I wonder what the guy would have to say for himself?
"Sorry, guys, I saw her and I just had to do something. I guess my brain short-circuited or something because all I could do was follow her. I might have been half-drooling as I brought up pictures of herself to show to her. She acted really weird after that and left in a hurry. I didn't think I was that creepy. Idk, I've never been with a woman before so it's hard to say."
They never ever apologize because to them they’ve done nothing wrong.
and if you ask them why they did it they’ll just say “look at the way she’s dressed” or “she didn’t say a word to me about it? It’s no big deal Why not call the cops” then quickly mumble some crap about how the “sjw woke mob” is after them for being a man, as if we’re the ones in the wrong for vilifying creeps.
Edit: I’ve heard that one as well @Gatsby they’re always looking their nose down on them and feel completely entitled to their time and bodies, very disturbed people.
Any woman - any person, really - when they're alone can reasonably feel uncomfortable being approached by a stranger. I've never seen Micheala in person, but it's my understanding that she's a small person. It's not rocket science nor is it patronizing to conclude that smaller women are more likely to consider that type of situation a few degrees riskier for her than a bigger woman might. Size absolutely matters.
Approaching a stranger in a crowded room is way different than following her into an elevator. Do people really not get this? Or are they so intoxicated by their self-centered delusions that they don't give a shit? (I know) I'm a nice guy and have a very friendly face. But I'm also 230 lbs. I'm a big fella and I'm not fit. And even if I was fit, I'm still BIG compared to the average woman. The fact that "it's a public elevator" (yes, I know it's not technically public, but you know what I mean) doesn't give me the right to treat it like my own, personal kissing booth - "here's my $5, talk to me!"
It's bad behavior and bad behavior should be called out, regardless of whether an actual crime occurred. I don't think anyone should have to excuse violations of their personal space just because the offender is "neurodivergent" or whatever the hell the excuse-du-jour is.
> > @zig563 no woman in her right mind wants to be stalked by strangers zig, consent is a must. > > I would beg to differ having met many top fbbs over the years. They don't want to be stalked, but many are fine with close up pics and enjoy putting on a show with their bodies. Some look at it as work. Prudence is needed. Fbbing has many strangers at shows. Do you think they want friends and family only? I don't. The sport is in bad enough shape as it. We saw that with the payouts as compared to Mr Olympia last weekend. > > I agree on talking for sure. I think you need fans to have a sport. A basketball player in the WNBA just got "threats" in her e-mail which someone had found. Police are looking into it. She is a top 3 player in the sport. There are more mental illness and misguided people than ever before. The police were at the shows I worked to look for a stalker and this was 2003. This is not a new thing Michaela posted. She could have filed a police report if it was near as bad as she said. Tough situation, but most of the girls that have been around know the ropes and feel comfortable.
We’re talking about schmoes here not actual fans there’s a difference but the way you’ve been phrasing everything makes me believe you’ve defending them by down playing this situation the entire time. you’re arguing in bad faith.
> Because she didn't take time out of her day to contact police and instead chose social media to vent, it "wasn't that bad"? That's a really fucked-up statement.
Tre_sayer said it best I’m for defending FBBs not belittling them which allows the problem to grow, you’re apart of the problem zig.
This goes on with any group of famous people. Fbbs are not famous to most but perhaps to fans. I'm not belittling them. I'm saying there are ways to try to deal with stalkers. That sounds like what this was. I suppose some schmoes fall into the category of stalkers. Ww had this issue at the NY Muscle Club as mentioned. The girl had the police show up and the fan was ejected by them. I suppose she must have had a restraining order which is a process.
Tre knows full well....if it is the Tre I met.... that schmoes exist. Most are harmless but things like that have been going on for years. It is not new. I'm all for the Fbbs. A further incident with that fella and I would call the police in. I don't see what the harm is there. I think she was saying keep your eyes open to the others. That applies to all women and men to an extent too. I never got the whole session thing but that attracts some fans to the venue. I'm not sure if any of the girls in this year's field even do sessions. I know many do not.
Any woman - any person, really - when they're alone can reasonably feel uncomfortable being approached by a stranger. I've never seen Micheala in person, but it's my understanding that she's a small person. It's not rocket science nor is it patronizing to conclude that smaller women are more likely to consider that type of situation a few degrees riskier for her than a bigger woman might. Size absolutely matters.
Approaching a stranger in a crowded room is way different than following her into an elevator. Do people really not get this? Or are they so intoxicated by their self-centered delusions that they don't give a shit? (I know) I'm a nice guy and have a very friendly face. But I'm also 230 lbs. I'm a big fella and I'm not fit. And even if I was fit, I'm still BIG compared to the average woman. The fact that "it's a public elevator" (yes, I know it's not technically public, but you know what I mean) doesn't give me the right to treat it like my own, personal kissing booth - "here's my $5, talk to me!"
It's bad behavior and bad behavior should be called out, regardless of whether an actual crime occurred. I don't think anyone should have to excuse violations of their personal space just because the offender is "neurodivergent" or whatever the hell the excuse-du-jour is.
Agree that size definitely plays a role. A person riding an elevator is not unusual or even if they get off at the same floor. Ther not going to your room is the strange part. We called it out. If we know nothing more and I don't follow her closely then it is case closed as long as he does not bother her again.
I think that the lad to was just suddenly overcome with awe. It does happen...and he lost his mind and did things that he normally never would have done. I do not condone his actions, but I suspect that he allowed his emotions to supercede his 'couth and brain'. This sort of thing happens all the time and, if properly handled (with maturity and respect), could lead to a positive relationship with the gal. But it appears that, in accordance with the info the lady provided (which may not be true) the lad was behaving 'badly'.
Real Life is NOT a voyeurs game. One must put aside petty personal problems which occupy the mind and actually 'talk' with the person (depending upon the situation which should never be allowed to go to 'stealth' lengths). Maybe, if the guy is seemingly ok, the lady will go to a public resto and engage in talk with the 'schmoe'. There, the gal and guy may develop a relationship. Probably not, but that doesn't matter...at least he was honest and tried to get to know his object of desire in an equitable, respectful way.
Don't forget that 'Schmoe' is a Yiddish Term and means 'Jerk'.
Perhaps he thought she posted this pic specifically for him?
Incidentally I'll usually find classy comments under pics like this, such as:
"She gets me hard every time"
"I exploded 🍆💦💦💦💦"
"She'd snap me in half with that ass"
Smh comments like those are so ridiculous that sometimes I have a hard time believing they’re real.. coomers.
Perhaps he thought she posted this pic specifically for him?
Incidentally I'll usually find classy comments under pics like this, such as:
"She gets me hard every time"
"I exploded 🍆💦💦💦💦"
"She'd snap me in half with that ass"
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) how all such stuff has wafted through every mind attending this website, though few actually say so.
Comments like that used to be common on this very website back in the early days, thankfully Chainer and the admins have cracked down on the vulgar talk.
I remember I used to make a lot of comments like that a few years ago to relatively around months ago when I was younger and still getting my hormones in check. I try not to say that kinda stuff now since I realize it’s straight up degenerate behavior.
You'd be surprised (or maybe not) how all such stuff has wafted through every mind attending this website, though few actually say so.
And it's fine and very normal to have those thoughts, but sometimes thoughts need to remain thoughts. You don't need to blurt out every thought that you have for the world to see. It's about social skills and graces.
And it's fine and very normal to have those thoughts, but sometimes thoughts need to remain thoughts. You don't need to blurt out every thought that you have for the world to see. It's about social skills and graces.
Had the schmoe in the original post had social skills and grace, he likely wouldn't have creeped out Michaela. Instead of her posting a warning to others to watch out for him and guys like him, she might have been posting a friendly picture of the two of them together.
Had the schmoe in the original post had social skills and grace, he likely wouldn't have creeped out Michaela. Instead of her posting a warning to others to watch out for him and guys like him, she might have been posting a friendly picture of the two of them together.
No chance! Those photos only happen at expos in public setting. No one wants to associate with "fans of the sport" anywhere else unless there is a safety of a webcam separating the two. Can you blame them? Lets not beat around the bush, this site, these conversations...all revolve around fetishization of female muscle. By extension my profile here too. Completely self aware.
And it's fine and very normal to have those thoughts, but sometimes thoughts need to remain thoughts. You don't need to blurt out every thought that you have for the world to see. It's about social skills and graces.
Exactly Gatsby!
No chance! Those photos only happen at expos in public setting. No one wants to associate with "fans of the sport" anywhere else unless there is a safety of a webcam separating the two. Can you blame them? Lets not beat around the bush, this site, these conversations...all revolve around fetishization of female muscle. By extension my profile here too. Completely self aware.
That's your own fault dude.
I'm honestly so tired of the word "fetish." I am an admirer of muscular women. I love how they look and I find them very attractive. This is a preference, but it's not a fetish.
You don't hear about people having a great boob fetish or a big butt fetish or a blonde hair fetish. That word just gets applied to attributes that close-minded normies don't like or can't admit that they like.
There's nothing wrong with being a fan of female bodybuilding. There's nothing wrong with appreciating the sport and the work AND finding the women who do it attractive.
Once you have this attitude, you can approach these women without shame and without being a creep. They know that guys come to see them. Most of their fans are men.. like the vast majority are. It's not strange for a male fan to say hello and give them a compliment. If you approach them respectfully - like you would any woman - then you'll most likely get a positive response.
Unless it's Hunter Henderson who I saw at the gym and gave a non-creepy compliment of "amazing lift!" which I totally meant, and she just squinted at me and walked by. But that's not indicative of all FBBs, that's just one FBB, and maybe she was having a lousy day. Either way she's super overrated. *
That's your own fault dude.
I'm honestly so tired of the word "fetish." I am an admirer of muscular women. I love how they look and I find them very attractive. This is a preference, but it's not a fetish.
You don't hear about people having a great boob fetish or a big butt fetish or a blonde hair fetish. That word just gets applied to attributes that close-minded normies don't like or can't admit that they like.
There's nothing wrong with being a fan of female bodybuilding. There's nothing wrong with appreciating the sport and the work AND finding the women who do it attractive.
Once you have this attitude, you can approach these women without shame and without being a creep. They know that guys come to see them. Most of their fans are men.. like the vast majority are. It's not strange for a male fan to say hello and give them a compliment. If you approach them respectfully - like you would any woman - then you'll most likely get a positive response.
** Unless it's Hunter Henderson who I saw at the gym and gave a non-creepy compliment of "amazing lift!" which I totally meant, and she just squinted at me and blew me off. But that's not indicitave of all FBBs, that's just one FBB, and maybe she was having a lousy day *
OMG you have nailed it Muscles_Toez!!! Excellent! Well done! Right on!
Indeed this was a scary moment for Ms Aycock! The creep could have done so much harm to her! He scared her to the maximum! Such a situation is absolutly scary for any woman in this world, not only female bodybuilders! We should find the creep and get him arrested for having the nerve to talk to a female bodybuilder in an elevator!
That's your own fault dude.
I'm honestly so tired of the word "fetish." I am an admirer of muscular women. I love how they look and I find them very attractive. This is a preference, but it's not a fetish.
You don't hear about people having a great boob fetish or a big butt fetish or a blonde hair fetish. That word just gets applied to attributes that close-minded normies don't like or can't admit that they like.
Damn great insight Muscle_Toez never realized I felt the same way until now..
I wonder if the over use of the word has played some part in drawning in creeps into the community, interesting.
Indeed this was a scary moment for Ms Aycock! The creep could have done so much harm to her! He scared her to the maximum! Such a situation is absolutly scary for any woman in this world, not only female bodybuilders! We should find the creep and get him arrested for having the nerve to talk to a female bodybuilder in an elevator!
Overdoing the sarcasm are we Caruana?
Thanks guys! I think about this term "fetish" quite a bit. I feel that it's often a way to shame anyone who deviates a little bit from the norm.
I'm bisexual and a pretty serious bodybuilder. I love muscles on me and I like them on other people - both men and women. I regularly attend bodybuilding shows because (1) I appreciate the sport and (2) I get turned on by the athletes. That's okay. No one judges a woman for watching the NBA because she likes the players, or a guy for watching women's tennis because he thinks the players are cute.
Liking muscular people, even if you aren't one, is a type and a preference. If you're white and you like Asian people, you don't have an "Asian fetish," necessarily, You just have a type.
Now, if you're obsessed with muscles and you think about them all the time and all of your money is spent on worship sessions and all of your free hours are spent watching muscle videos.. then... yeah you might have a muscle fetish. That's cool! But that's not everyone, and it might not be the majority of us. Simply being here and enjoying this site doesn't make you a fetishist.
Stalkers come in all flavors and sadly women of all types have to deal with them.
I agree with the overall statement of "Creepy schmoes ruin it for all of us fans" though.
As others have said, there are some muscular women who LOVE the attention of men, and specifically like to be desired and worshipped for their bodies. These are generally the women doing sessions and onlyfans and Herbiceps.. and obviously enjoying the process.
There are some who only do this work for the money, and want no part of it otherwise.
And there are some who only lift for sport and competition. They reject the sexual and kink aspects of it.
All three of these are OKAY! All three of these hold true for male bodybuilders too.
The important thing is that we - as fans and as decent people - treat these women with respect. And we keep our attention and actions consensual.
A married FBB like Sarah Villegas is here to win and might not want other male attention. We should respect that.
A sessionette like Brandi Mae loves being worshipped and offers her services. Buy them. Don't demand her attention for free.