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> > Wait what? “If I ever had the chance”?? If this was real, I’d be making flight reservations.
It is real but not everybody has the opportunity or money to do whatever they want. What would be my reason to make it up? None of you know me.
I’m not questioning whether it’s real or not. Even if it doesn’t work out I’d at least give it a go. No money for a flight? Ok, can’t you drive there or if you don’t drive get your mom to take you to the bus station. Nothing gained if you just talk about it and not act.
> I actually have had contact with a former FBB, but just over phone calls and texts so far. She is a fairly well known woman in the FBB world but now just competes in powerlifting. She has told me if I want to, she would take me out on the town where she lives (New Orleans) and I’m sure it would be part of a session deal but she never brought up money. She sent me some pictures of her in recent competitions and man, is she strong as hell. I would love to take her up on that if I ever get a chance. She made me feel that she also could establish a friendship beyond just a monetary thing. By the way, she still had some huge biceps, which is really a thing for me and she has pictures on this site.
Wait what? “If I ever had the chance”?? If this was real, I’d be making flight reservations.
Okay, some of this scenario is realistic and some is fantasy.
If you go to sessiongirls, then many of the women who are doing hourly sessions would also go to dinner and have a night on the town with you. I've never personally done that, but I've heard of it happening.
It's expensive. If the girl is like $700 for an hour of muscle worship, then you might pay something like $2500 to take her to dinner and dancing. It's called a GFE (girlfriend experience) date. This is a super common offering for escorts.
So if it's your dream to have a night out on the town with an FBB - that's totally realistic. Just gonna cost you.
Establishing a friendship bond beyond a monetary thing? Maybe. Probably not. If you've ever been with an escort or you've ever been to a strip club, then you know: this is the pitch. The girls tease you and turn you on. You're supposed to believe that she's into you and that she's turned on by you. Doesn't mean that's the case. From their perspective, you're just another customer (one of many), and their job is to make you feel special. Nothing more than that.
And that's not a bad thing. I absolutely love being a customer of these women. Once you lose the self delusion that "she's really into me," and you just embrace paying for what you want, it's SOOOO good.
Okay, some of this scenario is realistic and some is fantasy.
If you go to sessiongirls, then many of the women who are doing hourly sessions would also go to dinner and have a night on the town with you. I've never personally done that, but I've heard of it happening.
It's expensive. If the girl is like $700 for an hour of muscle worship, then you might pay something like $2500 to take her to dinner and dancing. It's called a GFE (girlfriend experience) date. This is a super common offering for escorts.
So if it's your dream to have a night out on the town with an FBB - that's totally realistic. Just gonna cost you.
Establishing a friendship bond beyond a monetary thing? Maybe. Probably not. If you've ever been with an escort or you've ever been to a strip club, then you know: this is the pitch. The girls tease you and turn you on. You're supposed to believe that she's into you and that she's turned on by you. Doesn't mean that's the case. From their perspective, you're just another customer (one of many), and their job is to make you feel special. Nothing more than that.
And that's not a bad thing. I absolutely love being a customer of these women. Once you lose the self delusion that "she's really into me," and you just embrace paying for what you want, it's SOOOO good.
So what, you think I’m in the first grade. I know about all that stuff. If she wants to go out with me, I’m not paying extra for it. I’ll pay for the dinner and drinks. If she doesn’t want it like that then we’ll just do the session and calm it a night.
So what, you think I’m in the first grade. I know about all that stuff. If she wants to go out with me, I’m not paying extra for it. I’ll pay for the dinner and drinks. If she doesn’t want it like that then we’ll just do the session and calm it a night.
Well I was responding to the guy who responded to you... saying "If this was real, I’d be making flight reservations."
I'm a big customer of FBB's and I love doing sessions. I'm not ashamed to pay for their time. Just telling everyone that it's possible to book them for a GFE or a "date."
Maybe she will go out with you at no charge. Depends on how late she's booked I guess. Hope that it happens for you.
That's probably why you see so many of them flocking to Dubai. They go where the money is.
Not just women, believe me. Dubai is a huge spot for male bodybuilders to go and charge beaucoup bucks for muscle worship.
> Houston has had a ton of FBBs over the past 20 years or so. I have personally seen Melissa Dettwiller, Gina Davis, Nat Rochner, and Macey Toney around town in that time, so they are around. Now, meeting them and trying to date them is a different matter. Most want someone who is as into the physique industry as they are. I've lifted since I started playing jr high football, so I'm immersed in training and truly love it, but I have never been in physique sports and never have used a bit of gear. That excludes me pretty much from that world. The one of them I met was Gina Davis, though, and she was very nice and seemed very nice and open to meeting men in general. > > Other than that, just hit hardcore gyms in larger towns and fitness expos. Or become a photog. They meet and befriend more muscular women than anyone. Show promoters do very well, too. JM Manion had bikini and figure girls all around him, even though he was never to be mistaken for Brad Pitt.
I’m in the Houston area also and have been going to a big national chain gym here. I’ve seen some pretty buff women but so far, none that I would call FBB level
If you go to a bodybuilding gym or an influencer gym in Houston like Alphaland, you'll find plenty.
So what, you think I’m in the first grade. I know about all that stuff. If she wants to go out with me, I’m not paying extra for it. I’ll pay for the dinner and drinks. If she doesn’t want it like that then we’ll just do the session and calm it a night.
I've never had to pay extra fees for a dinner date when I did sessions -- I just paid for dinner. I've done dinner with several women, even big names in the session world. If you are clean, respectful, and interesting enough, a relaxing dinner with you is a welcome respite from catering to schmoes all day. Don't expect more than a fun evening, just relax and vibe with her.
About talking to and meeting women at the gym. In my gym, it seems women and men don’t meet or talk unless they already know each other.
I think this is a generational thing. IMO the 35 and younger crowd have different social skills and preferences compared to the older gym crowd. This based on observation and personal experience.
Before Covid, my wife and I belonged to a big box gym in an affluent part of Brooklyn. We are both middle aged but we stay in shape and look and act much younger. At the time we would often go to the gym at different times but occasionally we overlapped. I noticed guys constantly talking to my wife. And she’s polite and not dismissive. If the conversation evolved, these guys would strategically mention jobs, wealth etc. Now, the average gym members were financial or healthcare professionals, lawyers; some had families or were divorced. The point is they were secure and confident and had no trouble approaching women.
Confident and secure dudes, who also are in shape (they’re not bbs) and 35 or 40+ years old have fewer issues with approaching women. I think younger people prefer social media and apps instead.
> Well look I've never met a girl in gym whose been up for any fun...so to speak abd I love fbbs... > > So apart from joining classes at gym I wanna know how a guys gets one? I see so many beauties here on GWM website...its both brilliant but depressing...
Dude, that’s because no woman who is focused on her training is going to be enamored by some random schlub who approaches them showing no interest in anything about said woman except for the fact that she has muscle and be like “wow, sure, let’s shag simply because you have a pulse. This is going to sound harsh, but you’re coming across as the type of schmoe that female bodybuilders and fit, muscular women despise in that you are still, despite getting some pretty good advice from people on this forum, treating them like fetish dispensers in your motivations to meeting them in-person. I don’t know you personally, but that is the impression that you have been given with your multiple posts asking the same thing while disregarding the advice that you are receiving simply because you either don’t want to acknowledge it, or you simply don’t want to put the effort to do it.
Stop acting like such a schmoe in complaining that you never met a girl in a gym who is up for fun. You love fbbs? Great, what else do you have to offer them? Again, like I and other posters have said repeatedly (though I am pretty sure this will fall on deaf ears) you’re not going to have success approaching a random woman in the middle of her workout in a big box, major chain gym. You need to join a smaller, boutique gym like a CrossFit or Powerlifting or Olympic lifting gym that fosters a community atmosphere. And when you do that, you need to network and make friends with BOTH the men AND the women there. Don’t immediately act like a creepy loser by hitting on the woman with the most muscle, and when she turns you down you go to the next one. Don’t expect instant results: this is going to take months, or even a year +, but that is how you meet fit people, and eventually find a partner. And for God’s sake, when you do finally meet someone who you could potentially start something with, don’t act like a complete goddamn schmoe (I peeped at your image comments, and honestly most of them are straight up cringe. Do not say those things if you ever meet a muscular woman in real life.)
And along with doing that, go to conventions, expos and competitions. You need to go where the fit people are, AND you need to fit the part to. You’re going to stand out in the worst of ways if you go to an expo completely out of shape and start trying to flirt with the fit women there. From what it sounds like you are currently doing, the most effort you are putting in is dicking around in a big box gym and complaining that nothing is working.
Put in the effort dude. Maybe even take a break from here if it’s getting you down.
Lol is "scmhoe" ur only insult lol
The best way is to probably find a female bodybuilder who is a personal trainer. Hire her for a few sessions, just be friends, offer to take her out. I know one Fbb who is always out with clients eating big meals. Offering them food/protein can help.
I have got a couple of male friends who are personal trainers, they have female clients who are always hitting on them. I can imagine female bodybuilder trainers getting no attention. So being nice, buying gifts, taking her out for big meals, treat them special might help.
The best way is to probably find a female bodybuilder who is a personal trainer. Hire her for a few sessions, just be friends, offer to take her out. I know one Fbb who is always out with clients eating big meals. Offering them food/protein can help.
I have got a couple of male friends who are personal trainers, they have female clients who are always hitting on them. I can imagine female bodybuilder trainers getting no attention. So being nice, buying gifts, taking her out for big meals, treat them special might help.
That is astonishingly bad advice. Don’t do that.
The best way is to probably find a female bodybuilder who is a personal trainer. Hire her for a few sessions, just be friends, offer to take her out. I know one Fbb who is always out with clients eating big meals. Offering them food/protein can help.
I have got a couple of male friends who are personal trainers, they have female clients who are always hitting on them. I can imagine female bodybuilder trainers getting no attention. So being nice, buying gifts, taking her out for big meals, treat them special might help.
I know quite a few personal trainers. Sadly, this line of thinking is really common. They constantly have to deal with men who sign on with them just to get close. And when she doesn't acknowledge their advances, they quit altogether.
NOW.. that said.. if you want to hang with an FBB and learn something, then hiring a trainer is a great idea.
For example, I travel to Las Vegas quite a bit. The Dragon's Lair gym has a few IFBB pros working there, and I typically book a training or posing session with one of the girls. I'm up front and I tell her that I'm just in town temporarily and doing one training appointment. I'm friendly and respectful. I don't cross their boundaries or ask personal questions or get into their space. They are looking to train me, and I keep it comfortable and professional with them.
This is how it should be done. They're selling a professioal service and I'm respectfully buying it. If I want a fetish or a sexual experience, I book a session.
That said, it's also awesome to meet them and catch glances at their muscles for an hour. That's pretty normal. Anyone with huge muscles is used to people looking at them. But I don't take it too far.
When I say this I don’t mean offend anyone as I’m guilty of this as well but. Quite literally I think alot of men on this website kinda view and put women bodybuilders in this category where they’re only seen in a sexual context, I’ll say yes muscles are extremely sexually attractive but from what I’ve learned from female friends that are gym rats or bodybuilders and influencers is that they just want to be see as regular people, who happen to bodybuild. Yeah I think it may be different with those bodybuilders who deeply rooted in social media, as the attention naturally falls upon them from social media. But that’s just my two cents
The best way is to probably find a female bodybuilder who is a personal trainer. Hire her for a few sessions, just be friends, offer to take her out. I know one Fbb who is always out with clients eating big meals. Offering them food/protein can help.
I have got a couple of male friends who are personal trainers, they have female clients who are always hitting on them. I can imagine female bodybuilder trainers getting no attention. So being nice, buying gifts, taking her out for big meals, treat them special might help.
This is the worst advice I have ever read.
When I say this I don’t mean offend anyone as I’m guilty of this as well but. Quite literally I think alot of men on this website kinda view and put women bodybuilders in this category where they’re only seen in a sexual context, I’ll say yes muscles are extremely sexually attractive but from what I’ve learned from female friends that are gym rats or bodybuilders and influencers is that they just want to be see as regular people, who happen to bodybuild. Yeah I think it may be different with those bodybuilders who deeply rooted in social media, as the attention naturally falls upon them from social media. But that’s just my two cents
Yeah agreed, and far too many guys have this Madonna/Whore complex and apply both to all of these girls.
1) There's lots of muscular women doing sex work. You have to pay them. And then you can indulge in your fantasies with them. I honestly don't know why more guys don't just accept this and treat themselves and enjoy the many amazing providers that are out there.
2) Muscular women who aren't doing sex work do not want to be objectified for their bodies. They deal with thirsty morons all of the time. They're not going to respond to you questions about arm wrestling or bicep worship. You won't get anywhere with them.
3) Dating a muscular woman is like dating any woman. You're going to need a connection outside of raw physical attraction. And since half of their life is spent in the gym, you're most likely going to encounter them at a gym. And you'll need to go to a gym and be fit yourself.
The best way to date a female bodybuilder is taking up bodybuilding yourself. These women already with enough with the creepy messages that spam their inbox.
I'm sure the last thing they want is draw more attention to themselves by dating someone they dwarf.
There are actually quite a few fitness couples that met at shows
The only thing you can offer is the plausibility or implausibility of the story itself.