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Why was this image merged?

Jun 27, 2024 - permalink

Well it’s fake internet points so it’s important to remember that none of this really matters.

I'd like to add it's not even that - the points are added to the picture, not the uploader. What we see in our profiles is the average points of all the pics we've uploaded.

The other forum is the one where points are directly awarded to the poster, but that's because it has both pics uploading + posts merged into one.

Jun 27, 2024 - permalink

I can see the frustration being expressed since there is no penalty for knowingly uploading an image that is already there. And yes, I believe a large percentage of duplicate uploads are done intentionally, knowing they'll get credit for an upload either way.

tamarok
Jun 27, 2024 - permalink

I can see the frustration being expressed since there is no penalty for knowingly uploading an image that is already there. And yes, I believe a large percentage of duplicate uploads are done intentionally, knowing they'll get credit for an upload either way.

Trying to tune any points related system is hard, since one group will complain you aren't being fair, while another might complain you are degrading their hard earned points. Then there are others who define points as some imaginary worth, with some people going competitive and trying to game the system.

Chainer
Jun 27, 2024 - permalink

I should add that people probably underestimate how often others' posts get merged into yours. This is because you get a notification every time yours gets merged into someone else's, so you're painfully aware of all of these, but you are not notified when the reverse happens.

Jul 03, 2024 - permalink

I'm curious why an uncropped photo always seems to win a merge vs a cropped photo. I understand if the cropping negatively affects the quality. However, in many cases it doesn't affect the quality, but merely eliminates extraneous background. One advantage of a cropped photo is that you can more easily see the muscle in the thumbnail. It seems like cropped photos tend to get higher scores, as well.

I recently posted a photo that was slightly cropped. It scored 380 points. Several days later, another used posted an uncropped version and it ended up being merged into his photo. That's kind of annoying.

Chainer
Jul 03, 2024 - permalink

One reason is that the existence of an uncropped version means that the cropped one was re-saved, which resulted in some quality loss due to the jpg image format. The uncropped one is the original without the quality loss that comes with re-encoding the image.

This doesn't apply to .png's but then you have larger filesizes.

Jul 17, 2024 - permalink

Whilst I have no real complaints in regards to posts being merged into duplicates as the points are arbitray, it can be very frustrating to have uploaded an image days/weeks before another user and it be merged as a dual credit image despite this.

A recent example of this would be this image of Melissa Torres which I uploaded around 48 hours ago

The recent uploader uploaded it 16 hours ago which gives a 32 hour difference, which is more than enough time for an image to be cleared from the waitlist.

I would just like some more transparency around the process behind giving dual credit as there's been multiple instances of this occuring alongside losing credit for better quality/cropped images.

Jul 26, 2024 - permalink

I mean both mine and captain charisma's uploads were of the same quality and resolution and I uploaded it earlier than him too but still I lost the merge ?? Can't believe.

Jul 26, 2024 - permalink

As can be seen using the assigned image numbers (2307514 vs. 2307533), he actually uploaded it a bit before you, but his went into a queue for a while before hitting the main site.

Jul 26, 2024 - permalink

I mean both mine and captain charisma's uploads were of the same quality and resolution and I uploaded it earlier than him too but still I lost the merge ?? Can't believe.

I might have been involved in that. At the time there were 3 of them, so I sent reported the second and third. They both were the same picture quality wise. Can't remember who the first poster was. I thought I was just cleaning up wasn't playing favourites guys. That kinda stuff doesn't happen a lot so I just report the additional images and leave the first I see on the models page.

tamarok
Jul 26, 2024 - permalink

The order in which you report the images as duplicates doesn’t matter. The site’s algorithm will suggest a default merge order based on upload time and image dimensions, which the mods can then override. For example, a mod will override if the larger image has borders or looks upscaled, but there are other legitimate reasons for changing the merge order.

Jul 26, 2024 - permalink

I might have been involved in that. At the time there were 3 of them, so I sent reported the second and third. They both were the same picture quality wise. Can't remember who the first poster was. I thought I was just cleaning up wasn't playing favourites guys. That kinda stuff doesn't happen a lot so I just report the additional images and leave the first I see on the models page.

I reported those when there were two versions at the time, so others may have reported before or after.

Jul 29, 2024 - permalink

Can I just ask again about the merge thing, I’m pretty sure my version of this image

had a huger resolution so I’m confused why mine was merged?

Aug 02, 2024 - edited Aug 02, 2024 - permalink

I uploaded this photo twice with 1440px resolution. Downloaded this way from Instagram, not altered by me. And my version arrived before the other.

Chainer
Aug 02, 2024 - permalink

Can I just ask again about the merge thing, I’m pretty sure my version of this image

had a huger resolution so I’m confused why mine was merged?

The resolution of yours is indeed bigger but looking at the picture itself it doesn't look like it has any more detail in it.

I uploaded this photo twice with 1440px resolution. Downloaded this way from Instagram, not altered by me. And my version arrived before the other.

Same here, yours just looks like a blown up version of the one that was kept.

Aug 02, 2024 - permalink

A recent example of this would be this image of Melissa Torres which I uploaded around 48 hours ago

Your version was worse, clarity-wise. Zoom in on the details of her bikini on both versions to see it demonstrated easily.

 

Can I just ask again about the merge thing, I’m pretty sure my version of this image

had a huger resolution so I’m confused why mine was merged?

Your version isn't actually any better quality-wise (looking closely it's actually very slightly worse, possibly due to the recompression from saving a cropped image as a .jpg, if that's what you did), and was uploaded later.

 

I uploaded this photo twice with 1440px resolution. Downloaded this way from Instagram, not altered by me. And my version arrived before the other.

The ID # of that one is 2313110, yours were 2313201 and 2313427. And why would you upload the same thing twice?

 

People, this isn't complicated. If you can't definitely say yes to both of these:

Was my version of discernably better quality?

If the quality is equal, was my version uploaded earlier (by ID #)?

Then there's no point in asking, you can assume you already know the answer.

Chainer
Aug 02, 2024 - permalink

I should also add that I personally don't care at all who wins an "upload race" by a few hours. I only ever use that as a deciding factor in a merge if literally everything else is the same.

On the other hand, I do care a bit if one image was uploaded months before the other.

cgsweat
Aug 02, 2024 - permalink

I uploaded this photo twice with 1440px resolution.

Resolution does not matter. The overall image quality is what matters.

Downloaded this way from Instagram, not altered by me.

We assume that most users do not alter or manipulate their uploads. This is a practice that is actually quite rare.

And my version arrived before the other.

This is not true. As chipperpip pointed out in the comment above mine, your image ID is higher than the version that was kept, which means you uploaded your version after that person.

Aug 02, 2024 - permalink
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Aug 06, 2024 - permalink

This pic is not a screenshot of this video at all. They are different things. It is not appropriate "merged into a duplicate". Here is the link to the pic's post on X: https://x.com/fitlilredhead/status/1820572785...

Aug 06, 2024 - edited Aug 06, 2024 - permalink

It's close enough to be redundant to the video. Also stop posting the same thing multiple times, you've been told that before. If there's an actual merging mistake, your version will just be restored as the primary without you needing to reupload it.

Aug 06, 2024 - permalink
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Sep 09, 2024 - permalink

Just curious as to why this was merged when I followed the rules as stated:

Sep 09, 2024 - permalink

Just curious as to why this was merged when I followed the rules as stated:

I’m assuming because I uploaded it to my queue before you uploaded it

tamarok
Sep 09, 2024 - permalink

Just curious as to why this was merged when I followed the rules as stated:

Following rules doesn’t make your image be immune from being a duplicate. In this case, given all other factors matching, DaneL96’s video was uploaded first. Just check the image numbers.

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