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Poll: Your stance on trans inclusion

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Jul 20, 2024 - edited Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Let’s not be antiscience. Sex is biologically/naturally determined and a woman = XX and a man = XY. There are no other options. Very rarely is someone born with an abnormal chromosomal combination or unusual reproductive organs. Gender, on the other hand, is a social construct. Female and male behavior can often be attributed to societal norms. Some of the women on this site (XX) challenge gender norms by pumping up on androgenic steroids to the point that they could be misconstrued as transitioning to the opposite sex. I personally prefer the GWMs who are more feminine. Some of the heavier steroid users may look great in photos but I’ve seen a few in person and they don’t seem to interest me IRL. No trans on the main site and forums of GWM! There already is a section dedicated to Trans actually so why lobby for more visibility.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

They have their own section and we should keep it that way, if you're into, you'll find it, I'm here to see girls only

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Girls with muscle. Not guys pretending to be girls with muscle.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

let's be real, the reason you guys are so opposed to trans people being included, is not because you're not attracted to them, it's because you ARE, and that makes you feel insecure. if you actually think you can clock them so easily, then you can easily just ignore them. but you're afraid you're gonna be tricked into being attracted to a "man"

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink
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Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

let's be real, the reason you guys are so opposed to trans people being included, is not because you're not attracted to them, it's because you ARE, and that makes you feel insecure. if you actually think you can clock them so easily, then you can easily just ignore them. but you're afraid you're gonna be tricked into being attracted to a "man"

This

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Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Trans "inclusion" usually means the exclusion of others, ex: biological men competing against women in sports. Hard no. So tired of even politely entertaining this bullshit.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

I have been on this site since 2009. This is and always will be "girls with muscle" Stop trying to get trans onto this site. By all means go start your own site for Trans Athletes. But give it up here please

Jul 20, 2024 - edited Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Ugh I'm not surprised with this fucking site thinking like this, thinking that being trans is just a matter that's "up for discussion", people who don't relate to or understand the experience at all writing paragraphs about "biological sex" and thinking that makes them experts on the topic. I don't know why I expected anything.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Look, I’m not tying to offend someone. I never would. I’m being asked for my opinion and my opinion is firm enough that it runs the risk of offending someone. And while we don’t have freedom of speech to talk about the weather, please understand that I don’t like hurting people. So please, let’s just stop talking about this like it has any validity. If people didn’t push the issue, I wouldn’t have to answer. But someone did. So here is my answer:

Please for the love of all that is good and delightful, do not include males wearing womanface or males who cut themselves up to look like females on this site. I should be able to look at “girls with muscle” without having to see males who think they’re females.

Just. Stop.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Let’s not be antiscience. Sex is biologically/naturally determined and a woman = XX and a man = XY. There are no other options. Very rarely is someone born with an abnormal chromosomal combination or unusual reproductive organs. Gender, on the other hand, is a social construct. Female and male behavior can often be attributed to societal norms. Some of the women on this site (XX) challenge gender norms by pumping up on androgenic steroids to the point that they could be misconstrued as transitioning to the opposite sex. I personally prefer the GWMs who are more feminine. Some of the heavier steroid users may look great in photos but I’ve seen a few in person and they don’t seem to interest me IRL. No trans on the main site and forums of GWM! There already is a section dedicated to Trans actually so why lobby for more visibility.

Most of society would not view the women you're into as even remotely feminine. You don't get to change definitions and social standards to fit your views.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink
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Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

I guarantee if a trans woman flexed for half you little posers you'd get a boner

for fucking real.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

So what is the deal then? The poll was made, the majority doesnt want trans people on this site, period. This is something to respect and there is allready a trans theme in the forum. All things others allready said.

If you guys want trans people, start your own side. Stop spreading your political ideologies in here and leave people with common sense in peace

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

So what is the deal then? The poll was made, the majority doesnt want trans people on this site, period. This is something to respect and there is allready a trans theme in the forum. All things others allready said.

If you guys want trans people, start your own side. Stop spreading your political ideologies in here and leave people with common sense in peace

i look forward to the day your deepest traumas become "political idealogies"

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Most of the women on here have altered their biology to the point they look more masculine than a trans. So we're already using the term girls loosely anyway.

A woman is a woman. Gear doesn’t change that. Just like even masculine looking “trans” are still women and get pregnant and often de-trans.

They shouldn’t be on the site!

Jul 20, 2024 - edited Jul 25, 2024 by Chainer - permalink

this point your gay if you into trans like long gone you don’t even like female bodybuilders no more yall just like men who turned into women that my friends is called being a faggit

User was banned for this comment -Chainer

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

A woman is a woman. Gear doesn’t change that. Just like even masculine looking “trans” are still women and get pregnant and often de-trans.

They shouldn’t be on the site!

Exactly, I don't get why people are using that as an argument. It should be the people who actually believe you can change your gender who have a problem with the women on this site because by their logic they should be considered men since they take male hormones.

Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

The site is girls with muscle, not trans with muscle.

The world is ever changing. I don’t see anything wrong with it.

Jul 20, 2024 - edited Jul 20, 2024 - permalink

Exactly, I don't get why people are using that as an argument. It should be the people who actually believe you can change your gender who have a problem with the women on this site because by their logic they should be considered men since they take male hormones.

You guys would be surprised how many so called trans women don't claim that they are real women (Blair White for example). They know exaxtly what they are: A biological man who changed his appearence to pretend to be a woman. Never the less I would be happy if there would be a real gallery for this kind of athletes on this site. Now its just a bunch of threads in the forum. Browsing that for content is not very convenient.

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