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My two cents, can’t wait to see all the chest hair lovers come running to blow this up.
I'm on the same page, except that I'm not a big fan of breast impants simply because they aren't real and don't feel real in my experience. When I see them all i can think about is how fake they feel on a woman with little to no natural breast tissue surrounding them. That and the fact than most of them on FBB look fake as shit so I can't even pretend they're real lol.
I agree on the rest though. Rough skin, masculine voices, body hair -- all a HUGE turn off for me. I like WOMEN. No knock on anyone who is bisexual or gay or not sure. But I am sure and aside from muscles, I don't like ANYTHING masculine on a woman. Giant cl*ts are nauseating to me.
So, yeah. I get it. When I see guys here celebrating extreme steroid abuse or calling women "studs" or anything along those lines, I cringe for sure and I kinda wish "those guys" had their own section of the site so I didn't have to see their comments or look at the shit they like.
That said, I try to be more accepting and tolerant of differences and I realize our fetish in general isn't super popular so we kind of have to stick together and welcome anyone in the same boat I guess.
But yeah, I like FEMININE women with muscles. My ideal girls on this site are the more pretty and natural looking ones who are under 30 or so and have no tattoos and nice smooth, soft skin (not over-tanned and dried out like a piece of beef jerky)
For me, the ultimate girls on this site are girls like: Dylan Crenshaw, Julia Vins,Lea Schreiner, Yeon Woo-Jhi, Lena Ramsteiner etc.
This, to me, is about as close as you can get to perfection:
Listen I’ll start off by saying that I’m never going to be one to kink shame or judge, and I hate seeing comments on mainstream platforms insisting that all enjoyers of muscular females are inherently gay. But some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants, which, sure they can look silly at the extreme levels to which some of these FBBs get them but still, these users act disgusted at even the thought of any artificial femininity. Beyond this are the threads asking for hairy arms, deep voices, square jawlines. I mean, like who you like but there are some objectively monstrous “girls” on this site, so viralized to the point that they couldn’t DREAM of having any semblance of normal, female, bodily function. Cris Goy and Tifani Witman for example, HAVE CHEST HAIR. I’m sorry but that is beyond like muscular females, and it’s attached to something much deeper than just what gets your little guy excited.
My two cents, can’t wait to see all the chest hair lovers come running to blow this up.
Ngl that jazz about "liking female muscle is gay" used to bother me but I'm into cuntboys now, so... eh 🤷♂️ If someone tells you it's gay to like muscular girls, pull up their socials and call em hypocrites for any "gay pride" virtue signaling they do. Most of the time, the people who have tried to shame me for liking girls with muscle in private present themselves as "gay allies" in public. You're not an ally if you're trying to shame me for liking my girls big.
> > Okay I wish you'd included this in your original post, because this is actually an interesting discussion! Bodybuilding as a sport has basically become synonymous with rampant steroid abuse, and yes, when women take these drugs the gender lines begin to blur. You could make the case (and you're kind of implying this already) that at a certain point, fbbs are basically female-to-male transmen. > > I don't agree with this, and that's based on one reason that may seem silly to some, but is a crucial distinction when discussing gender identity - these women consider themselves to be female. They still socialize as female and put on female affectations, they're still biologically female. In my mind, that's all that matters. > > And it's that juxtaposition of female affectation/identity with increasingly masculine traits that drives the attraction for many of us. Deviating from gender norms elicits a visceral response. I know in my own brain, it's a mix of disgust and arousal - two emotions that are usually linked when it comes to sexual fetishes.
to leave an anecdote:
i chatted with a fbb and learned that she had taken a little break from competing because she had a double mastectomy. after some chatting learned that she was in the process of transitioning and obviously had taken steps to start--probably test therapy and obvously the breast removal, aside of anything she was taking specifically for bodyuilding--and has other signs. But she also wants to kind of finish competing (I didn't get a sense of how long that would be or how long she intended to wait) as a female. Once she retired she would finish it off.
it's a bit of an extreme case, but even if she considers herself "he" internally and is starting to make steps to look like "he" externally, there is still the reality of competing that has to be addressed and i doubt they would let her compete as a women's bodybuilder if she was now publicaly identifying as a man.
in regular cases, yes there are various women with masculine features whether it's a jawline or chest build or their voice. but there are some that don't try to be feminine at all--not that they're attempting to be masculine, but it's just a lack of femininity, which is a reason we sometimes delete photos. a forever example for me is angie yeo, who still, to me acts and moves in a feminine way despite her mass.
ok, that's still an extreme example. how about slava galagan--when she's topless and rather lean she has little to no breast tissue and has a masculine looking chest at certain angles because she doesn't really have much in the way of breasts--i don't think anyone here would say she's masculine.
If she's shorter than 5'9 or so her life as a "man" is going to be Hell. She should try treating her gender dysphoria with pimozide first.
> Once sex is not had for an end but for its own sake, it becomes a mass of appearances, signals and mental associations. Everyone involved become Humpty Dumpties with private meanings. The trick is not that there is one univocal definition for homosexuality. The trick is to offer your definition every time you use the word. One problem is that you will suddenly have people who are unsure of everything and who thought that they had a clear-cut opinion but not so anymore. Another problem is that you will have many self-absorbed loudmouths who assume that of course everyone sees everything the same way they do. The point of a mature discussion is to compare definitions and learn from them, not to have one definition win over others. > > The correct answer to "are we all gay" is and has always been that it depends. According to the easiest and most obvious definition, only a very few of us are gay, namely those with a recent history of physical acts with other men. According to one abstract philosophical definition, only very few of us are not gay. The way it goes is that all recreational sex is self-seeking, therefore you are a man and the meaning and end of your sexual activity is in a man, yourself, so on a mental level all porn is homosexual.
So are you saying that merely watching any kind of porn is gay?
Watching other men have sex is very gay
I'm on the same page, except that I'm not a big fan of breast impants simply because they aren't real and don't feel real in my experience. When I see them all i can think about is how fake they feel on a woman with little to no natural breast tissue surrounding them. That and the fact than most of them on FBB look fake as shit so I can't even pretend they're real lol.
I agree on the rest though. Rough skin, masculine voices, body hair -- all a HUGE turn off for me. I like WOMEN. No knock on anyone who is bisexual or gay or not sure. But I am sure and aside from muscles, I don't like ANYTHING masculine on a woman. Giant cl*ts are nauseating to me.
So, yeah. I get it. When I see guys here celebrating extreme steroid abuse or calling women "studs" or anything along those lines, I cringe for sure and I kinda wish "those guys" had their own section of the site so I didn't have to see their comments or look at the shit they like.
That said, I try to be more accepting and tolerant of differences and I realize our fetish in general isn't super popular so we kind of have to stick together and welcome anyone in the same boat I guess.
But yeah, I like FEMININE women with muscles. My ideal girls on this site are the more pretty and natural looking ones who are under 30 or so and have no tattoos and nice smooth, soft skin (not over-tanned and dried out like a piece of beef jerky)
For me, the ultimate girls on this site are girls like: Dylan Crenshaw, Julia Vins,Lea Schreiner, Yeon Woo-Jhi, Lena Ramsteiner etc.
This, to me, is about as close as you can get to perfection:
one caveat--i have never seen her without the heavy makeup, probably not even when she first showed up. i would be shocked, SHOCKED, i tell you, to find out that she doesn't look nearly the same with the makeup removed
Listen I’ll start off by saying that I’m never going to be one to kink shame or judge, and I hate seeing comments on mainstream platforms insisting that all enjoyers of muscular females are inherently gay. But some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants, which, sure they can look silly at the extreme levels to which some of these FBBs get them but still, these users act disgusted at even the thought of any artificial femininity. Beyond this are the threads asking for hairy arms, deep voices, square jawlines. I mean, like who you like but there are some objectively monstrous “girls” on this site, so viralized to the point that they couldn’t DREAM of having any semblance of normal, female, bodily function. Cris Goy and Tifani Witman for example, HAVE CHEST HAIR. I’m sorry but that is beyond like muscular females, and it’s attached to something much deeper than just what gets your little guy excited.
My two cents, can’t wait to see all the chest hair lovers come running to blow this up.
Well judging by your posts and comments. I sense a troll amidst. But just to play along. Sexuality is a spectrum. I have been attracted to both conventionally feminine looking women and masculine looking(facially) women. I love breasts and pecs. Your post implies that liking hairy women makes you gay to which I say and?
Grow up kid….being gay is not the worst thing in the world but being an ass is up there
Listen I’ll start off by saying that I’m never going to be one to kink shame or judge, and I hate seeing comments on mainstream platforms insisting that all enjoyers of muscular females are inherently gay. But some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants, which, sure they can look silly at the extreme levels to which some of these FBBs get them but still, these users act disgusted at even the thought of any artificial femininity. Beyond this are the threads asking for hairy arms, deep voices, square jawlines. I mean, like who you like but there are some objectively monstrous “girls” on this site, so viralized to the point that they couldn’t DREAM of having any semblance of normal, female, bodily function. Cris Goy and Tifani Witman for example, HAVE CHEST HAIR. I’m sorry but that is beyond like muscular females, and it’s attached to something much deeper than just what gets your little guy excited.
My two cents, can’t wait to see all the chest hair lovers come running to blow this up.
⬆️ absolutely love breast implants. The bigger the better. I am an engineer in the medical device industry. I use to design breast implants. So I love them 😍
"homophobic" x2, "insecure, hypocritical plonker", "grow up kid"
Really doing a stand-up job at showing the OP what's what, folks. Nothing bespeaks being secure in your tastes and preferences like emotionally charged name-calling.
Hey if you’re going to have a poor taste, be prepared for some actual criticism for that take. You seem to be knocking your socks off defending the OP based on your responses. A little interesting….
All this stuff about having big bad scary norms so that you can break them has always sounded fake to me.
I wasn't referring to breaking gender norms in a "woke" way. Most people on the planet have gender norms reinforced by their own cultures as they grow up (ex. we expect women to look and act in certain ways and expect men to act in other ways). I find it hot when women go against those norms, not in a political/liberation type of way, but more because it's taboo to some extent.
But it's not like that's going through my mind all the time. Like you, I'm mainly just thinking muscles look good on women - my previous post was trying to get to the root of that attraction.
Just because someone likes hairy chests does not mean they're gay.
Just because someone likes square jaws does not mean they're gay.
Just because someone likes deeper-than-Vin-Diesel voices does not mean they're gay.
And just because someone enjoys having sex with men does not mean they're gay.
one caveat--i have never seen her without the heavy makeup, probably not even when she first showed up. i would be shocked, SHOCKED, i tell you, to find out that she doesn't look nearly the same with the makeup removed
I have seen her with lighter makeup, but never make up free, rolling out of bed in the AM. Her makeup, hair etc, are definitely a BIG part of her look. That said, I think she is classically beautiful with lovely proportional features and facial symmetry. I'm confident she's still gorgeous even without a lick of makeup. Dylan Crenshaw is another of my favorites and she wears little to no makeup and she's got the perfect girl-next-door look to my eyes.
"homophobic" x2, "insecure, hypocritical plonker", "grow up kid"
Really doing a stand-up job at showing the OP what's what, folks. Nothing bespeaks being secure in your tastes and preferences like emotionally charged name-calling.
I stand by insecure and hypocritical, plonker was a bit judgemental, but I'm afraid that they are. You come across that way too unfortunately, for defending this nonsense.
Look, men like what they like. Some guys like hairy women; that doesn’t mean they border on homosexuality. Personally, I like very muscular women. They arouse me. Not muscular men, muscular women. And I like small, natural breasts. Some guys like fat women; others like skinny women. Some people are turned on by big lips, others by big hands. Some guys like big butts. Can we stop ragging on guys because of their personal passions? That’s my opinion. I like talking with guys who love muscles on women, period. So let’s just enjoy this site and the women who grace the pages of this site.
Some people like red wine, others prefer white. But if you claim to be into white wine and not red, yet say you like your wine fuller-bodied, love an astringent, robust flavor, and that floral, mineral notes do nothing for you, people might give you a quizzical look, even if they don't outright question your preference for white wine.
I disagree about fake boobs vs. natural chests. There's nothing either way that is telling or good or bad. When it comes to the side effects of gear use, however, it raises a good discussion.
If you're on this site, it's safe to say you have an fetish, or at least appreciation, for muscular looking women. It's also fairly safe to say you have a fetish, or appreciation, for women who have achieved a level of muscle development that otherwise wouldn't be possible without gear. And I don't necessarily think there's anything inherently telling or wrong about that.
However, the specific aspect of fetishizing the side effects of gear use itself, such as body hair or hair loss on the head, or the acne. That raises a real issue to talk about for discussion. Because at that point you're not appreciating the person anymore. How is it different from sexualizing the visible effects of heroin use or crystal meth use? You're not sexualizing a person anymore. You're sexualizing visible side effects of drug use either way.
That would seem to be the case lol. I wouldn't read too much into that comment. Comes across as disorganized word salad.