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I rarely weigh in on these kinds of threads, or any really. But I think for me, one of the things about this fetish is the physical power imbalance or parity contrary to what might be considered the norm. I think that formidable women that are strong willed are just as attractive as physically strong women. There are definite limits on physical characteristics for me. I would not judge another person for their own preferences. We are all victims of our own experiences and in some way all trapped by them to some extent or another.
In the way of flat vs implants, I mean even amongst non physically strong women, there is certainly a genetic lottery for breast size and I personally wouldn't discriminate in that respect. When it comes to facial features and such, there are plenty of women with strong jaws that I find attractive and there are plenty of very hairy non-muscle women in the world. It's just a matter of personal preference in my humble opinion.
But some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants, which, sure they can look silly at the extreme levels to which some of these FBBs get them but still, these users act disgusted at even the thought of any artificial femininity.
I couldn't agree with you more on this. I've always found it odd how some guys hate even the best implants. There are the Yvette Bova kind of implants that were def. a little much, but she apparently had them reduced a little and they look great. But some even don't like that Natalia Trukhina got them and hers are absolutely perfect. There have been a handful of threads about implants in the past, and they are very telling.
I love women like Natalia being mountains of muscle. But I like femininity and that is as important as the muscle.
The thing with implants is that for normal women they are a waste of money. since most women have boobs that are big enough. you don't need to be dolly Patton. but if you look at most fbbs they really looked tiny some had an odd deflated look. but some fbbs could litteraly go topless on YouTube because the system can't find the boobs. so they do enhance their looks but. overall fbbs look so stunning already they don't really need it. but these these types of women tend to be be perfectionist and really want to maximize their attractiveness. so they will resort to this more quickly than most women but we need to tell them it's not necessary. like sometimes I want to comment that yea they are slightly hotter with implants but they don't need them. but since they are perfectionist they will see this comment as me saying they need to get implants asap. while I and most men don't care if she does it or not.
I never noticed chest hair on Cris Goy.
Some implants do look straight up awful, though. I'd much rather natural pecs than globes for breasts.
I never noticed chest hair on Cris Goy.
Some implants do look straight up awful, though. I'd much rather natural pecs than globes for breasts.
Filters do quite a lot of work.
Loves: massive muscles, implants, makeup, sultry voice, etc. Dislikes: body hair, short hair, oversized cl!t, etc.
It's unfortunately a fact that bad boob jobs are commonplace amongst fbb. If you're an fbb, unless you're a queen of the session circuit or have a Jake Wood-tier sugar daddy you are not going to be able to afford to retain the best plastic surgeons, and have to go to the second- or third-tier guys. And it does make a big difference, you get what you pay for with this kind of work.
Add to that the fact that breast augmentation was designed to work well with a typical woman's physique, i.e., low muscle, significant body fat, and so it works much less well with an fbb's physique of very low body fat and much larger muscles... and is it any surprise that many guys would much rather just the "poobs"?
I’m never going to be one to kink shame or judge some objectively monstrous “girls” on this site, so viralized to the point that they couldn’t DREAM of having any semblance of normal, female, bodily function.
Yeah, calling human beings some of us are into "objectively monstrous" isn't kink shaming or judging. Not at all.
Cris Goy and Tifani Witman for example, HAVE CHEST HAIR. I’m sorry but that is beyond like muscular females, and it’s attached to something much deeper than just what gets your little guy excited.
Lol. Like, come on, man. You aren't fooling anyone by putting a paper-thin blanket over your homophobia to begin with, but phrasing it this way is so ridiculous. Your whole post has this weird accusatory tone even though it wouldn't even matter if being into any of that stuff did actually make you gay. When are you gonna start posting strange pseudo-psychoanalytical implications about people who find overtly feminine traits in FBBs hot? Never, I'm going to bet, because it's only weird if it's gay-adjacent in your eyes, and this apparently needs to be called out for some reason. (The reason being homophobia, as usual)
some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants,
So you're saying: 1. you like artificial breasts, 2. you don't like it when others criticise them or you for liking them, and 3. those that do criticise them or you are gay? 4. You're very comfortable criticising things you don't like in other women and folks who like it 🤔 Don't be such an insecure, hypocritical plonker is all I have to say to you. 🤣🤣🤣
Why does the word homophobia get put on everything? It's just a stupid and lazy debate tactic. Pointing out the things he has pointed out is not homophobia. It's his observation, and it's as valid as yours.
...a Jake Wood-tier sugar daddy...
Would I be allowed to make a thread about this? I've heard this a few times on here.
Would I be allowed to make a thread about this? I've heard this a few times on here.
nothing stopping you
Yeah, calling human beings some of us are into "objectively monstrous" isn't kink shaming or judging. Not at all.
Lol. Like, come on, man. You aren't fooling anyone by putting a paper-thin blanket over your homophobia to begin with, but phrasing it this way is so ridiculous. Your whole post has this weird accusatory tone even though it wouldn't even matter if being into any of that stuff did actually make you gay. When are you gonna start posting strange pseudo-psychoanalytical implications about people who find overtly feminine traits in FBBs hot? Never, I'm going to bet, because it's only weird if it's gay-adjacent in your eyes, and this apparently needs to be called out for some reason. (The reason being homophobia, as usual)
thank you tritin, well said
some of the various offshoots of some of GWM members’ fantasies are definitely pushing the boundary, if not broaching near-homosexuality. The most noticeable is the absolute DISDAIN for breast implants,
FTR, I don't like implants. So...not liking them (even moderately regular-looking ones) means you have homosexual tendencies? So what's your diagnosis for preferring flat-muscular looking chests then?
When are you gonna start posting strange pseudo-psychoanalytical implications about people who find overtly feminine traits in FBBs hot?
*(proceeds to diagnose him with homophobia). C'mon, you're behaving just like him.
Female muscle and androgeny go hand in hand. The fact that this surprises anyone is shocking.
No, not necessarily at least. Plenty of very feminine-looking women with good muscle tone around - even here. As stated in this very site many moons ago, we have a...slightly warped sense of what "female muscle" is.
I mean, bodybuilding to a certain degree is a masculine pursuit. Does this make all women who participate to that extent, masculine? I would argue that it does. I don't think anything you mentioned could be considered gay, however. We're all attracted to a particular set of masculine women. That's all that can be said about it.
FTR, I don't like implants. So...not liking them (even moderately regular-looking ones) means you have homosexual tendencies? So what's your diagnosis for preferring flat-muscular looking chests then?
*(proceeds to diagnose him with homophobia). C'mon, you're behaving just like him.
No, not necessarily at least. Plenty of very feminine-looking women with good muscle tone around - even here. As stated in this very site many moons ago, we have a...slightly warped sense of what "female muscle" is.
When it comes to the type of women who get attention here, there is certainly some androgyny at play.
Once sex is not had for an end but for its own sake, it becomes a mass of appearances, signals and mental associations. Everyone involved become Humpty Dumpties with private meanings. The trick is not that there is one univocal definition for homosexuality. The trick is to offer your definition every time you use the word. One problem is that you will suddenly have people who are unsure of everything and who thought that they had a clear-cut opinion but not so anymore. Another problem is that you will have many self-absorbed loudmouths who assume that of course everyone sees everything the same way they do. The point of a mature discussion is to compare definitions and learn from them, not to have one definition win over others.
The correct answer to "are we all gay" is and has always been that it depends. According to the easiest and most obvious definition, only a very few of us are gay, namely those with a recent history of physical acts with other men. According to one abstract philosophical definition, only very few of us are not gay. The way it goes is that all recreational sex is self-seeking, therefore you are a man and the meaning and end of your sexual activity is in a man, yourself, so on a mental level all porn is homosexual.
So are you saying that merely watching any kind of porn is gay?
to leave an anecdote:
i chatted with a fbb and learned that she had taken a little break from competing because she had a double mastectomy. after some chatting learned that she was in the process of transitioning and obviously had taken steps to start--probably test therapy and obvously the breast removal, aside of anything she was taking specifically for bodyuilding--and has other signs. But she also wants to kind of finish competing (I didn't get a sense of how long that would be or how long she intended to wait) as a female. Once she retired she would finish it off.
it's a bit of an extreme case, but even if she considers herself "he" internally and is starting to make steps to look like "he" externally, there is still the reality of competing that has to be addressed and i doubt they would let her compete as a women's bodybuilder if she was now publicaly identifying as a man.
in regular cases, yes there are various women with masculine features whether it's a jawline or chest build or their voice. but there are some that don't try to be feminine at all--not that they're attempting to be masculine, but it's just a lack of femininity, which is a reason we sometimes delete photos. a forever example for me is angie yeo, who still, to me acts and moves in a feminine way despite her mass.
ok, that's still an extreme example. how about slava galagan--when she's topless and rather lean she has little to no breast tissue and has a masculine looking chest at certain angles because she doesn't really have much in the way of breasts--i don't think anyone here would say she's masculine.