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Isn’t submissive a state of mind? You can still be in good shape and act like a sub.
Agreed. Some people do need to be able to separate reality from fantasy. It is weird to think your sexual life should completely takeover. I know there’s a whole movement lately that you should be yourself or whatever (which is really just see how strange you can get for social media so people see you) but you should want to fit in, in some ways. That’s how you become successful. You can and should stay healthy for yourself and everyone around you but also be able to include being a sub or whatever you’re into, into your sexual life
I think the "join a gym" answer is a bit too constrained.
Some of the most beautiful lean-muscled women I've seen in real life were a part of a running club.
Yes, you do need to get off the sofa, but the gym isn't the only place.
Hiking, climbing, cycling, swimming, spinning, yoga, etc. Hell, even ballroom dancing.
Believe me, they are there.
Think about real-life muscle in motion. Nearly everyone here finds that mesmerizing. The amount of muscle that looks spectacular in person does not seem that notable in photos here, when presented next to contest-shape bodybuilders. But, real-life muscle in motion beats photographs every time.
> > And then there's that. If he already feels bad about the gym, that's not gonna help anything. You guys need to chill, the gym isn't a magic pill that'll solve everyone's problems.
True but the gym helps a lot with self confidence and if seems like he needs some To me going to the gym was very demoralizing. not only did I not get fitter my arms started to hurt after a few minutes so I couldn't even work out more despite me wanting to. it took a few days to heal
i thought it would be obvious. a lot of us are submissive and the whole appeal of muscular women comes from wanting to be dominated by someone stronger than ourselves. if i have to become stronger in order for them to like me, it would be pointless.
i really don't get why some people are so judgmental and care so much what other people do with their personal lives and bodies
To me I would like to have a girlfriend that is stronger than me. but since being strong myself is a big advantage I wouldn't want to keep myself weaker than her on purpose I found a few things I can do to improve my fitness even if it's not much. but if she demanded me to be stronger than her it becomes pointless since this means she probably has no interest in femdom. and it will turn into a toxic race of trying to become stronger and at that point I am better off with random non fit women.
i thought it would be obvious. a lot of us are submissive and the whole appeal of muscular women comes from wanting to be dominated by someone stronger than ourselves.
Outside of session women feigning it, good luck finding any bodybuilder enticed by that.
Outside of session women feigning it, good luck finding any bodybuilder enticed by that.
This.
And good luck finding honestly any WOMAN enticed by that.
If more guys were open to paying for sessions/dommes/escorts/etc, you’d find that it’s actually quite easy to satisfy these fantasies
I would say the "weaker man" fantasy is something she might be willing to entertain in the bedroom (she may or may not even be into it, but if she loves her partner enough then she might be willing to), but it's certainly nothing to build a whole relationship on.
Like I said, feigning it.
why are people getting mad that i don't want to waste my time doing something i don't like and already tired a bunch of times. this is like me getting mad at people for not learning Tamil as a hobby
I mean, using this analogy, it would also involve you being super attracted to South Asian women who speak Tamil but you "don't want to waste your time" learning Tamil.
So you don't speak her language, you don't go into her spaces, and you don't understand her culture.. but like.. you're surprised that you're not meeting any hot Tamil women?
Look guys, I'm almost 40 years old. To date, I've been intimate with about 50 very muscular women. A mix of FBB's, powerlifters, and fitness competitors.
I'd say around 2/3 of those meetings were paid sessions and appointments, the other 1/3 were dates and short-ish relationships.
I've of course dated and had relationships with normal girls too.
Fit women are busy and focused on their bodies. They are strict with eating and training, and have less free time. Their bodies feel (obviously) very different and awesome. They can be a bit more aggressive and horny. They're proud of their accomplishments and their muscles. Some are dealing with past trauma and bodybuilding is a means of empowerment.
But at the core, they are like any other woman. They want a partner who they respect and one who shares their interests. They want someone attractive, strong, and confident. None of them are going to be a long term partner to a tiny man who gets off on being humiliated. That's the kind of thing you pay for.
^^this. Not all brains are wired the same clearly. Although I am of the same thought as some of you who think that if you want something meaningful with women who look a certain way you have to show that sort of effort toward yourself. I do not understand why some of you want to live two lives - have a 'normal' looking partner or none at all(mostly due to incapability) and at the same time be attracted to someone completely out of your reach. Personally I could never reconcile the two - it isn't fair towards your partner either. It makes sense why porn sites exist though and people willing to shell out their inheritance money on it. Lol
This.
And good luck finding honestly any WOMAN enticed by that.
If more guys were open to paying for sessions/dommes/escorts/etc, you’d find that it’s actually quite easy to satisfy these fantasies
dominant women exist it's not just men that have unusual fetishes they are not all the same. but since fbbs are rare it's very unlikely for a person to have this fetish to become an fbb or strong woman. since it takes too much effort. these women look and act like regular women and only reveal their fetish in private.
in private? Paid private? Even if that were true, good luck finding a needle in the haystack. Your analogy makes no sense.
Out of shape guys attracted to female muscle.(majority of gwm members)
Jacked women(small minority of women) into fat slobs - (no website/community that exists as such) Reality is if there is a said gentleman who fits that demographic- they are usually a sugar daddy - nothing more. Even they know because these models do all they can to edit them out or never post them on sm..especially if they have an of account. Lmao
I think the "join a gym" answer is a bit too constrained.
Some of the most beautiful lean-muscled women I've seen in real life were a part of a running club.
Yes, you do need to get off the sofa, but the gym isn't the only place.
Hiking, climbing, cycling, swimming, spinning, yoga, etc. Hell, even ballroom dancing.
Believe me, they are there.
Think about real-life muscle in motion. Nearly everyone here finds that mesmerizing. The amount of muscle that looks spectacular in person does not seem that notable in photos here, when presented next to contest-shape bodybuilders. But, real-life muscle in motion beats photographs every time.
I mean, insert any activity for “gym” it doesn’t really matter. If you don’t do x you will have less of an opportunity to run into y
in private? Paid private? Even if that were true, good luck finding a needle in the haystack. Your analogy makes no sense.
Out of shape guys attracted to female muscle.(majority of gwm members)
Jacked women(small minority of women) into fat slobs - (no website/community that exists as such) Reality is if there is a said gentleman who fits that demographic- they are usually a sugar daddy - nothing more. Even they know because these models do all they can to edit them out or never post them on sm..especially if they have an of account. Lmao
Haha I love the idea of a "Men With Flab" chat forum that's exclusively visited by really fit and buff women.
They'll marvel at pics of guys with dad bods and praise their bellies, soft skin, and neck rolls.
They can make edgy statements like "I'd love to get that backfat between my biceps" or "shame that he doesn't have two mouths to go along with those two chins"
A few of them will give these men impossible standards. They'll claim that they want to see "man boobs," but don't want them to look too feminine.
Some of the really elite flabby men will ask to be removed from the site because they want to limit their content to Onlyfans.
And a bunch of the fit women are pissed off that they never meet any flabby men. But they're also unwilling to visit a Baskin Robbins or get lunch at Chik-Fil-A or.. never work out.
Look guys, I'm almost 40 years old. To date, I've been intimate with about 50 very muscular women. A mix of FBB's, powerlifters, and fitness competitors.
I'd say around 2/3 of those meetings were paid sessions and appointments, the other 1/3 were dates and short-ish relationships.
I've of course dated and had relationships with normal girls too.
Fit women are busy and focused on their bodies. They are strict with eating and training, and have less free time. Their bodies feel (obviously) very different and awesome. They can be a bit more aggressive and horny. They're proud of their accomplishments and their muscles. Some are dealing with past trauma and bodybuilding is a means of empowerment.
But at the core, they are like any other woman. They want a partner who they respect and one who shares their interests. They want someone attractive, strong, and confident. None of them are going to be a long term partner to a tiny man who gets off on being humiliated. That's the kind of thing you pay for.
Thank you for this spotlight on the Point Muscles_Toez. Very well said.
in private? Paid private? Even if that were true, good luck finding a needle in the haystack. Your analogy makes no sense.
Out of shape guys attracted to female muscle.(majority of gwm members)
Jacked women(small minority of women) into fat slobs - (no website/community that exists as such) Reality is if there is a said gentleman who fits that demographic- they are usually a sugar daddy - nothing more. Even they know because these models do all they can to edit them out or never post them on sm..especially if they have an of account. Lmao
there are women with a fetish for fat men too i have seen them with their fat boyfriends. but they are usually just regular sized because fbbs are so rare you can't really have any sub communities like this and it doesn't really matter. but people here seem to act like every women is the same mentally and only men can have fetishes. its really quite sexist when you think about it
there are women with a fetish for fat men too i have seen them with their fat boyfriends. but they are usually just regular sized because fbbs are so rare you can't really have any sub communities like this and it doesn't really matter. but people here seem to act like every women is the same mentally and only men can have fetishes. its really quite sexist when you think about it
Dude it's not sexist. It's literally a fact. Chalk it up to testosterone or upbringing or gender expectations and men have way higher libidos and far more interest in kinks and fetishes than women.
We all know and love onlyfans. Creators on there are only 29% male. And out of that number.. want to guess the percentage that are catering to other men? Women just aren't into us in the same way.
I'll put this out there and take it for what it is.
The vast majority of men on this site are ashamed for liking muscular women. So much so they hide it from not only their friends, but from their whole life. Therefore, they will never afford themselves the chance to meet one. It's that simple.
Dude it's not sexist. It's literally a fact. Chalk it up to testosterone or upbringing or gender expectations and men have way higher libidos and far more interest in kinks and fetishes than women.
We all know and love onlyfans. Creators on there are only 29% male. And out of that number.. want to guess the percentage that are catering to other men? Women just aren't into us in the same way.
Yea but porn doesn't show the entire picture. porn is more popular among men. I am not sure why all I know is that women prefer erotic literature and don't want as much visual stimulation. and attractive women have such an easy time getting a boyfriend they don't even need to resort to porn because they can do almost everything they want in person. I have had relationships with dominant women too. but they were not strong and wanted to dominate me in ways that are different from my fantasy's
Men and women are different and don’t let people tell you otherwise.
Male birds out on displays to attract a mate. Other animals will often fight other males for mates and territory. Society has removed a lot of that physical aspects but men still out on displays: high paying jobs, positions of power, the ability to provide.
If you had a clone but one of you made 75k a year and the other made 175k, who would be more attractive
Women work with a different toolkit. A lot of it is mental and emotional. How many times has a guy got roped into thinking a woman liked him but the minute she Meets a guy that fulfills heremotional and physical needs stuff changes? With the caveat that she may show up again if he ever becomes shut off emotionally and she needs an outlet?
How many times have we heard of a woman begging her guy to open up and the meoment he does she is turned off because he complained or cried or whatever.
Simplistic yeah, but it’s helped me a lot to consider this when I’m interested in someone.
In the end, how you make a woman feel about you AND herself matters. And tbh attractive women are not trying to be seen with “below average guys” in romantic setting.
I'll put this out there and take it for what it is.
The vast majority of men on this site are ashamed for liking muscular women. So much so they hide it from not only their friends, but from their whole life. Therefore, they will never afford themselves the chance to meet one. It's that simple.
This observation is an actual factor bearing on the problem OP is asking about.
Isn’t submissive a state of mind? You can still be in good shape and act like a sub.