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100% agree. I could imagine a scenario where Gracie does some damage here with an AMA though.
She's like that unicorn of being really feminine, pretty muscular, and very flirtatious. She's monetized her look really well. If she allowed pics on here and posted a bit - even in her own thread - I'm sure it would drive sales.
That said, I know that men on onlyfans and such will straight up send tips of $100 and $200 to girls like that for simply being who they are, so she might not want to waste her time trying to talk up guys who may never deliver anything. Who knows.
idk if anyone in this thread has followed that one girl that claims to not train and has nice biceps, but she posted a rather length story yesterday basically saying that there's a weird difference in people paying. There's guys that "don't keep 25 in their pockets" but want something, and then theres the guys that shell out 1-200 or more, and sometimes not expecting a return.
idk i always expect a return, but im one of those that knows that 25 aint gonna cut it these days, especially if someone is posting these on public platforms.
to me there is a pretty big difference between someone who is on OF and one who is not.
One is willingly joining a platform that they know will have people who leak content. Idk how litigious a place like OF is or if its worth the cost to go after one user (which is why all those copyright postings are fairly empty deterrents IMO).
The other is doing something they dont' do regularly and have some kind of trust extended to the asker who breaches that trust. Back when i was buying videos from Mandy i would write out an agreement that could be considered binding that i wouldn't post or share anything, etc.
Meanwhile we got this one guy whos YT was taken down posting videos of Charlyn Sellenthin and that one Isabelle girl who asked to be removed, and now the "no" i got from them makes sense. Because they likely saw that shit posted and shut it down.
anyway that's a little off topic, but maybe something to think about in relations to people that actively make fetish content but don't want to be on here.
I don't know if my assumption about Gracie's removal is true at all. I have mentioned to more than one woman that they were on here and they seemed a little surprised but ultimately didn't mind too much. I just think, and maybe the people who have had significant interactions with managed accounts might agree, that once the women are hands free on the platform they will likely just go along with whatever suggestion the manager puts out. like...i'm not even totally sure if/when they log in, or if they log in to withdraw funds, even, or if the management does that and sends them their cut.
If there's a hierarchy of simp behavior, that would have to be the peak.
Close! It's dudes who mod a streamer's twitch channel. Usually for no pay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mP4c43IsmM
> > thats over a month old at this point
Why do you think she would leave? Wouldn't this be a good place for her to do promotions and find new clients?
Honest question, as I really think that this is a solid and free place to advertise for someone like her.
I honestly don't think there was any thought put into it. She outsourced the running of her Onlyfans to some management, who in turn seemingly outsourced their copyright enforcement to a third party, who crawled the internet for stuff to get removed and found GWM.
That said I also agree that she would stand to benefit less from being on GWM as compared to some others given the massive popularity she already has on places like Chaturbate. (However, the flip side of this is that being on GWM wouldn't hurt, either.)
Incidentally that same firm who sent me removal requests for her stuff keeps spamming me with takedown requests every few days for stuff I already took down the first time; it's quite annoying.
for someone like her who probably has a much, much larger audience on chaturbate than whatever she could garner here, probably isn't a big deal. especially since given the people who are always asking about OF and vids here are always griping at prices, we don't seem to have too many vocal whales, and if they are they're silently giving on OF anyway, or chaturbate.
If there's a hierarchy of simp behavior, that would have to be the peak.
Haha well the stories that I’ve heard… there’s far taller peaks than $200!
I’m the same as you. I sometimes tip (usually $10) if there’s a post that I really like and I’ve certainly spent pretty good money on customs. I’d never just send a girl $200 for nothing.
That said, there’s a significant amount of subby guys who get off on sending women money and giving up financial control. They’re not necessarily simps… sending money is their fetish and a crucial way that they get off. It’s like submitting to a dominatrix, but just in a different way.
Anyway, chances are excellent that someone like Gracie has a few of these guys or had them… and girls like that do tend to lose patience with trying to sell guys who will never pay anything.
Which is also okay! I’m bisexual but for some reason, I won’t pay for male content. Maybe a chivalry thing. But I also don’t message male models and ask for their attention and then complain when I don’t get a reply. I just like and enjoy the stuff that’s out there for free.
That said, there’s a significant amount of subby guys who get off on sending women money and giving up financial control. They’re not necessarily simps… sending money is their fetish and a crucial way that they get off. It’s like submitting to a dominatrix, but just in a different way.
Yep it's called financial domination or findom. Danielle Gardener (Devious Danielle, Mz Devious, etc) was a queen at this. She even had an "ignore line" which was a 900 number that you could dial. She'd answer it then set the phone down on the counter and ignore you while you listened to whatever it was that she was doing. Most callers could be heard jerking it, then they'd hang up after saying something along the lines of "thank you, mistress."
Oh and to answer the thread title, Manon Vergé (Bulders) and Cindy Landolt.
I don't know either one of them, so assumptions based one what I've seen:
Cindy's blacklist is all about control and exclusivity of her brand.
Manon is a school teacher and, even though French, likely wants to keep her image limited to the "mainstream" outlets (however one defines "mainstream" within this subculture).
Yep it's called financial domination or findom. Danielle Gardener (Devious Danielle, Mz Devious, etc) was a queen at this. She even had an "ignore line" which was a 900 number that you could dial. She'd answer it then set the phone down on the counter and ignore you while you listened to whatever it was that she was doing. Most callers could be heard jerking it, then they'd hang up after saying something along the lines of "thank you, mistress."
im down bad but LMAO what
Lola and it's not even close. I hear ya....and Mel Brodsky... both stealth WPD if they wanted to hang up the heels
western men have been systematically attacked for decades. Drinking water contaminated w hormones, pesticides, chemicals preservatives in food, to make men less masculine and lower testosterone. this is why you see so much of this kind of behavior nowadays. but, you know, that would be a "conspiracy theory" so automatically impossible and ridiculous so don't worry about it
western men have been systematically attacked for decades. Drinking water contaminated w hormones, pesticides, chemicals preservatives in food, to make men less masculine and lower testosterone. this is why you see so much of this kind of behavior nowadays. but, you know, that would be a "conspiracy theory" so automatically impossible and ridiculous so don't worry about it
This is so true. Let me ask you one question: Have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water? On no account have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water have you? And not without good reason. Do you think there is a reason I only drink distilled water, rain water, or pure grain alcohol? I'll give you a hint: Have you ever heard of something called, The Fluoridation of Water?
I don't think they are putting chemicals in the water on purpose. but Microplastics are confirmed to cause your body to generate more estrogen. and in modern culture they started saying being manly is bad and there is a mass hysteria about perverts these days. but this only started in the last 10 years even in 2012 macho culture was mainstream. but all of this doesn't matter since there is a lot historic proof of submissive men existing in the distant past. varying from full simps to men that just enjoy being spanked. all the way back in the bronze age you had guys like this who seemed very tough by modern standards. but still submitted to women
This is so true. Let me ask you one question: Have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water? On no account have you ever seen a Russian drink a glass of water have you? And not without good reason. Do you think there is a reason I only drink distilled water, rain water, or pure grain alcohol? I'll give you a hint: Have you ever heard of something called, The Fluoridation of Water?
Now, I don't avoid women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence!
Tanya Hyde
YES!!! She was sooooo hot 🔥 🥵. And usually trained with Shannon Courtney 😍