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Actually, you don't have to make any assumptions to know what an "average man" is, other than the country he lives in. There are plenty of studies that can tell you what are the average characteristics of a man in a given country, starting with how much they weigh and ending with median education.
In this case, however, we're talking about an average untrained man. And we've also got papers published about the measurable physical output of such people.
LOL. Ok.......teniss4. In case all that research went to your head, what he asserted was that the "average man" on this post wasn't defined. In a research paper, they will go out of their way to categorize and define their sample list. This post is silly because in a life and death situation any person has a shot at survival. All it takes is the right amount of force on someone's jaw or temple and it's lights out.
Now if the post asked How would "you" fair against a top female bodybuilder or physique competitor, then people could answer more objectively since the control groups are whomever participates.
Close to 0% if you're talking about an actual fight and not just fooling around.
The second any of these women get hit by an average man, the fight is over. Even Laila Ali has said that women can't withstand the type of physical punishment that a man can. So even though she can hit hard, she admits that she has to tell her male sparring partners to tone it down. So if someone who fights for a living can't take a man's punches, what's going to happen to an FBB getting hit with no gloves? Being muscular doesn't mean you're going to be able to take a punch.
Most men instinctively know how to throw a punch, women don't. Even if a guy is bad at punching they're still going to be better than an untrained FBB.
Most of the women on here are ripped, but they're not very big. They would still be at an anatomical disadvantage.
Can't discount the mental aspect. Men are simply more savage and can tap into those primal instincts better than a woman.
I would make an exception for the handful of women who are big and strong enough whereas their power and mass would be so overwhelming that they should be able to win. Amazonka, Noof Yosuf, Julia Fory, etc. Those are the only type of women that I could see beating a guy's ass.
Why are people over-complicating average? It's the easiest part to figure out. According to healthline the average man (in America), is 5'9 200lbs. Now if we're talking about average Europeans, then I would bump the FBBs chances to around 10-15%.
You are aware that a majority of Americans including a majority of American men are either overweight or obese? Plenty of studies including the NIH link I posted supports that.
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/...
For whatever its worth, a person who is 5'9 200 lbs is overweight and bordering on being obese according to BMI calculators, unless of course that person works out and is into heavy lifting. But for anyone who doesn't work out that would be unhealthy bordering on obesity.
In many ways if you think about it, at least when it comes to the average American man who doesn't train, he is likely to be overweight/obese and I would put my money on a fit woman who frequently lifts weights (which a lot of the women seem to do here in gwm) to win in a fight against an average American man, who is probably either overweight or obese and doesn't train.
You are aware that a majority of Americans including a majority of American men are either overweight or obese? Plenty of studies including the NIH link I posted supports that.
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/...
For whatever its worth, a person who is 5'9 200 lbs is overweight and bordering on being obese according to BMI calculators, unless of course that person works out and is into heavy lifting. But for anyone who doesn't work out that would be unhealthy bordering on obesity.
In many ways if you think about it, at least when it comes to the average American man who doesn't train, he is likely to be overweight/obese and I would put my money on a fit woman who frequently lifts weights (which a lot of the women seem to do here in gwm) to win in a fight against an average American man, who is probably either overweight or obese and doesn't train.
We all know that's not overweight. But for the sake of argument, let's say it is. 99% of the women here still aren't beating a 5'9 200lb "overweight" guy.
Close to 0%
Mmm...
if you're talking about an actual fight and not just fooling around.
- The second any of these women get hit by an average man, the fight is over. Even Laila Ali has said that women can't withstand the type of physical punishment that a man can. So even though she can hit hard, she admits that she has to tell her male sparring partners to tone it down. So if someone who fights for a living can't take a man's punches, what's going to happen to an FBB getting hit with no gloves? Being muscular doesn't mean you're going to be able to take a punch.
Reality: Most people cannot throw a punch OR take a punch.
We all know that's not overweight. But for the sake of argument, let's say it is. 99% of the women here still aren't beating a 5'9 200lb "overweight" guy.
I'd put my money on a fit muscular woman from this site over a 5'9 200 lb overweight guy. That's probably that guy is too slow to begin with and the woman is probably much quicker and faster. Speed and quickness does matter in a fight.
I'd put my money on a fit muscular woman from this site over a 5'9 200 lb overweight guy. That's probably that guy is too slow to begin with and the woman is probably much quicker and faster. Speed and quickness does matter in a fight.
Just because they're fit doesn't automatically mean they're going to have handspeed or good reactions. But, I can give you that as well. Let's assume they're faster. How are they going to stop the guy from getting close and ragdolling them? They can't. How are they going to stop this 200lb guy from slamming them? What happens when she gets hit??
I chimed in a bit earlier, but I just want to point out how much this thread sucks.
This is an awesome website that celebrates muscular women with gloriously thirsty pics and videos.
And now we have this ongoing thread about how average fat guys can or cannot beat the piss out of them. Great little bit of content for a GWM to happen upon. I’m sure it will make her feel extra welcome and comfortable here.
I like muscular dudes too and spend a lot of time in those discussion spaces. I’ll tell you… crap like this doesn’t come up. Schmoes for men can just celebrate the jacked dudes that they like without fantasies of violence.
Hmmm. Wonder why that is.
Just because they're fit doesn't automatically mean they're going to have handspeed or good reactions. But, I can give you that as well. Let's assume they're faster. How are they going to stop the guy from getting close and ragdolling them? They can't. How are they going to stop this 200lb guy from slamming them? What happens when she gets hit??
She can be quick enough to get away from him so that he's not able to ragdoll her. She may get hit but then again that's part of a fight and I'd bet that she's strong enough to tolerate his hit. If anything, I'd bet that her punches would land harder on him because she's likely to be more muscular than him while he's just a pudgy and fat.
Plus, for whatever its worth, the longer the fight goes on, he probably would get worn down because of his lack of endurance (due to not working out) and as she's fit, she'd gain more advantage.
I'll just leave it at that. The "Andrew Tate" types like you are just not smart enough to understand much and are not worth arguing with.
I chimed in a bit earlier, but I just want to point out how much this thread sucks.
This is an awesome website that celebrates muscular women with gloriously thirsty pics and videos.
And now we have this ongoing thread about how average fat guys can or cannot beat the piss out of them. Great little bit of content for a GWM to happen upon. I’m sure it will make her feel extra welcome and comfortable here.
I like muscular dudes too and spend a lot of time in those discussion spaces. I’ll tell you… crap like this doesn’t come up. Schmoes for men can just celebrate the jacked dudes that they like without fantasies of violence.
Hmmm. Wonder why that is.
No worries man. If you don't like this thread, you don't have to be in it.
From my point of view, it's turning out to be an intriguing deabte. People just need to have a thick enough skin to be able to deal with it. ;)
She can be quick enough to get away from him so that he's not able to ragdoll her. She may get hit but then again that's part of a fight and I'd bet that she's strong enough to tolerate his hit. If anything, I'd bet that her punches would land harder on him because she's likely to be more muscular than him while he's just a pudgy and fat.
Plus, for whatever its worth, the longer the fight goes on, he probably would get worn down because of his lack of endurance (due to not working out) and as she's fit, she'd gain more advantage.
I'll just leave it at that. The "Andrew Tate" types like you are just not smart enough to understand much and are not worth arguing with.
Software engineer, A student, but I'm dumb because I know that men fight better than women. lol ok. Usually people resort to insults when they don't have a leg to stand on.
How is she getting away? Is she turning around and running, therefore not fighting anymore? Or, is this untrained female skilled enough to get on her bike and use footwork to keep distance and negate his rush? Not happening if she doesn't train in boxing.
As I've already said, being strong doesn't mean you can take a punch. Laila Ali is strong yet can't take a punch from a man. As many others have said, being muscular doesn't automatically equate to strong punches.
You clearly are not familiar with combat sports in the slightest.
Software engineer, A student, but I'm dumb because I know that men fight better than women. lol ok. Usually people resort to insults when they don't have a leg to stand on.
How is she getting away? Is she turning around and running, therefore not fighting anymore? Or, is this untrained female skilled enough to get on her bike and use footwork to keep distance and negate his rush? Not happening if she doesn't train in boxing.
As I've already said, being strong doesn't mean you can take a punch. Laila Ali is strong yet can't take a punch from a man. As many others have said, being muscular doesn't automatically equate to strong punches.
You clearly are not familiar with combat sports in the slightest.
The only thing I'll say is that the average man is unlikely to know how to land effective punches.
You maybe a good software engineer. But that doesn't mean you know much about combat sports either.
In fighting, being super muscular is typically a bad thing. One, big muscles require more oxygen which leads to gassing out faster. Also, they're likely going to be stiffer and less fluid with their movements. They have the wrong body type for fighting in addition to everything else already mentioned. Oh, and has anyone even brought up bone structure yet? There are just so many things they would have to overcome in order to win.
If it's who's stronger the majority of these women are stronger than a man who doesn't work out.
The only thing I'll say is that the average man is unlikely to know how to land effective punches.
You maybe a good software engineer. But that doesn't mean you know much about combat sports either.
If you know combat sports so well, then please explain to me how a female bodybuilder (with no boxing training) would stop the guy from closing distance. In your explanation, please keep in mind that the female is likely to be shorter with shorter limbs.
If it's who's stronger the majority of these women are stronger than a man who doesn't work out.
You make a good point. Come to think of it, maybe I should have asked question a different way similar to what you just said. Oh well.....
If you know combat sports so well, then please explain to me how a female bodybuilder (with no boxing training) would stop the guy from closing distance. In your explanation, please keep in mind that the female is likely to be shorter with shorter limbs.
Nope. I'm done with you. Much rather enjoy the pics/videos of the ladies here than argue/debate back and forth with someone.
The main reason I opened this poll is because I thought it would be fun to get an idea what people think and I'm fine with others thinking differently than I do, as I'm not trying to find any answers to fulfill any of my fantasies. Although it seems like some people took this question/poll the wrong way, which wasn't my intention for them to do so.
Let's try to put this in better context.
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/2...
Is her physique, fighting ability, and strength representative of 60% of this site? Roughly anyway...
Do we honestly see her beating up a 200lb man?
Let's try to put this in better context.
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/2...
Is her physique, fighting ability, and strength representative of 60% of this site? Roughly anyway...
Do we honestly see her beating up a 200lb man?
IMO, yes. Plus, I won't get into explaining it. But if you and others don't agree with me, so be it. I'll just agree to disagree.
Actually, you don't have to make any assumptions to know what an "average man" is, other than the country he lives in. There are plenty of studies that can tell you what are the average characteristics of a man in a given country, starting with how much they weigh and ending with median education.
In this case, however, we're talking about an average untrained man. And we've also got papers published about the measurable physical output of such people.