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It's Natalia Ejsmont. She is the pinnacle of the limit what a woman can achieve naturally. She is a claimed natty and honestly I don't see a reason not to agree. She is very strong but very feminine and nothing like a roided beast. She works hard as hell, and her killer body is the proof. Weighing at 175, and a former kickboxer turned bodybuilder I don't even want to imagine what she could do someone breaking into her house.
My dude.
No... just no. She's not natty. You can see it in her traps and delts. They have a lot of androgen receptors, so you need juice to get those capped shoulders and strong traps.. especially as a woman.
I mean, she COULD build that kind of muscle as a powerlifter, but then no other part of her body would look like this. It's a bummer that girls feel the need to say that they're natty. It shouldn't be shameful to juice. It should just be considered "essential equipment," as that's exactly what it is. She does look amazing though, and any 175 kickboxer with legs like that could definitely do some damage.
I'm no photoshop expert, but I'd also be extremely surprised if her waist it is that tiny compared to her glutes.
Someone posted up Kittybitcosplay. And you know what... I actually DO think that she's natty. Hear me out:
1) She's clearly strong AF and looks like she trains heavy. She has strong arms, great shoulders, strong traps, and a developed core. Nothing is super lean and she's in a fairly normal female bodyfat %
2) Her shoulders and traps don't have that swollen, bulging look that you get from gear. Neither do her lats. To me... I think she's a sturdy girl with great upper body genetics who lifts heavy and has for a long time.
3) She doesn't really show her legs, but from the little that I can see, they look thick and "normal." Not lean, not super jacked. She looks like a girl with normal estrogen levels.
4) She never seems to leave her home. She might train at a gym but doesn't document that. I just don't buy someone like her investing the money and risking the sides of juicing and not showing more. Not being friends with other BB'ers. Not doing gym posts. The idea that a girl just juices solo to be a more jacked Twitch streamer... IDK I just don't see it.
I could definitely be wrong. But I've been thinking that she's natty this whole time. Remember kids.. gear is about muscle growth, but it's also very much about cutting fat and muscle conditioning. Kitty only has the first one going, and that is possible naturally with a good diet and a hell of a lot of hard work.
What about Ellen Akesson? She's not huge, and can even pass for normal if she's not flexing. She is a bit suspiciously strong though.
She's beautiful, I've never seen her before.
I vote that she does light cycles and spends a good time off-cycle too. But her quads in this photo are very juicy indeed for someone as young as her.
And sorry to keep posting, but I'm really enjoying this thread. Looking right now at the girl of the week.. if you check out just the latest post of her, you could MAYBE sell me on her being natty...
But go back just a bit, and obviously this is not the case and has not been the case for a long time. She's just off-cycle at the moment.
I just want to point out that she has the same amount or possibly MORE muscle in the off-cycle than she did in that fully lean prep photo. Bodybuilders work hard as hell to maintain muscle during a cut, but it's inevitable that you lose a little bit of mass.
The amount and the diversity of PED's needed to look that cut and huge is considerable.
What about Ellen Akesson? She's not huge, and can even pass for normal if she's not flexing. She is a bit suspiciously strong though.
In a lot of her earlier photos she looks potentially natural but I suspect she's on something. Her shoulders are pretty defined nowadays and her legs look pretty ripped. In this post from her Insta she is looking very lean and muscular, stretching believability for being natty.
Hmm, yeah I can see how Ellen is a bit too ripped and big at the same time to be natty.
Edit: I didn't watch the video but assuming she denies being juicy, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in that, as with other instances of girls claiming natty.
Edit2: Honestly if I were a fitness chick on social media and not natty, if steroid allegations came up I would just never address them.
I finally started watching the American Gladiators documentary on Netflix called Muscles and Mayhem, and while the men were (relatively) transparent on steroid-use, some of the denials from the women were hilarious. Raye Hollit (Zap) claimed she didn't take steroids, but that she took human growth hormone, BUT claimed it was for her tendons and not for size and strength.
Athletes will lie and do whatever mental gymnastics that they can to deny PED use. Them telling you "I am natty" means absolutely nothing. Think about it: what benefit does someone get by admitting that they are on PEDs, whether they are actual steroids, SARMs, HGH, Insulin, diaretics to cut, etc? Speaking only here in the U.S. because that's where I am from, but there is still a pretty big public stigma against steroids in that they're still associated with cheating and that people who use them are being lazy and don't want to put in the "hard work." Hell, we even see here guys who literally have their fetish ruined if they realize that their favorite bodybuilders are on them. If you're a fitness influencer or/and strength athlete, why admit to something that carries so much of a stigma? You still have to put in a lot of work while on steroids to get the results that we see from women here, and you would probably feel resentful if people perceive you as lazy and that you have poor work ethic just because you admitted to using. And that doesn't even take into account losing out on endorsements from supplement companies and other sponsors who don't want the public to know that those who market their products are on them.
If you're a fitness influencer, you basically have every motivation to lie and no good reason to be truthful.
My vote is natty. We've all seen natty gymnasts more muscular than her.
You mean we've all seen more muscular gymnasts we assume are natty. The US and Eastern block have always had suspiciously larger, thicker, and more muscular female gymnasts than the UK. You can stretch that to cycling, weightlifting, rowing too.
If you're a fitness influencer, you basically have every motivation to lie and no good reason to be truthful.
It's baffling when people take what the girls say at face value. Like you say, there is practically no positive benefit of coming clean other than earning some honour points with certain sections of their fanbase which ultimately counts for nothing. When these women make dedicated videos addressing their natty status it always raises a red flag to me as it feels like they're just rallying their devoted followers to drown out/bully the small minority that ever brings up the subject.
I totally understand why athletes wouldn't want to explicitly admit being on steroids and I'm fine with that. But for girls like Dana Linn Bailey, Kristen Nun and Carolyne Marquez to make videos claiming natty with such conviction is just beyond shameless.
It's baffling when people take what the girls say at face value. Like you say, there is practically positive benefit of coming clean other than earning some honour points with certain sections of their fanbase which ultimately counts for nothing. When these women make dedicated videos addressing their natty status it always raises a red flag to me as it feels like they're just rallying their devoted followers to drown out/bully the small minority that ever brings up the subject.
I totally understand why athletes wouldn't want to explicitly admit being on steroids and I'm fine with that. But for girls like Dana Linn Bailey, Kristen Nun and Carolyne Marquez to make videos claiming natty with such conviction is just beyond shameless.
to put it another way.
if you are asking a girl out and she keeps on coming up with excuses to not spend time with out are you going to completely believe that her phone dropped down a drain or that her cat got sick or that she got a flat tire or are you going ot suss out that you're being given a fuck off line?
claiming natty is basically a fuck off line but only if you believe it
No
even if you weren't sure about this one, look at the people she used to and still hangs around. they're all top level crossfit athletes. shes like 2 degrees removed from DLB and Brooke Ence. and she herself had once wanted to be one of those top athletes.
But does that make her a user?
no but who she spends her time with and what she looks like are pretty good indicators.
shes certainly one that no one would "care" about int he CF sphere since she was neither a HQ darling or an elite performer.
do i think she's using now? maybe not since she's not in competitive cf and kind of seems to be doing her own thing. but a few years ago yes.
no but who she spends her time with and what she looks like are pretty good indicators.
shes certainly one that no one would "care" about int he CF sphere since she was neither a HQ darling or an elite performer.
do i think she's using now? maybe not since she's not in competitive cf and kind of seems to be doing her own thing. but a few years ago yes.
I'd be 99% sure that she does. As the other guys pointed out... this is her peer group.
She's lean and strong all year round. It's probably possible for her to do that natty, but hard AF. She spends a good amount of time traveling and modeling. A girl looking that strong and lean naturally is going to have to be incredibly disciplined... probably more than her lifestyle would allow.
And it's actually very possible for women to run
But does that make her a user?
Honestly, it more than likely does. From my experience, PED users usually stick around the same people. I’ve seen it frequently at gyms that I have trained at. You are the company that you keep, and that’s especially true in fitness.
Also, to add to fp’s post, I think she is deeper into PEDs now than when she was a CrossFit athlete. She’s always been ripped and muscular, but she looks bigger and even more built now. Plus, she doesn’t have to worry about “testing,” and she clearly caters a lot of her content to dudes with a muscular woman fetish. She knows her market very well, despite only being attracted to women lol.
How about this one?
Hmmm...I would say not natty.
It's almost because of this girl alone that I'm reminded that some clear genetic anomalies must exist. Although even here you can see that while her physique is very impressive in the second image she doesn't look anywhere near as massive as she does in the first, and if you enlarge the image the size of her bicep isn't as big as it looks at first glance. In the first image there is also a clever use of angles and posing to accentuate her bicep.
But there is no denying that for someone who must have been 100% natural she was absolutely ripped, and her shoulders and arms are definitely more defined than what I would usually consider natty.
It's almost because of this girl alone that I'm reminded that some clear genetic anomalies must exist. Although even here you can see that while her physique is very impressive in the second image she doesn't look anywhere near as massive as she does in the first, and if you enlarge the image the size of her bicep isn't as big as it looks at first glance. In the first image there is also a clever use of angles and posing to accentuate her bicep.
But there is no denying that for someone who must have been 100% natural she was absolutely ripped, and her shoulders and arms are definitely more defined than what I would usually consider natty.
I was just joking. I think is funny how some people here can't see a slight sight of muscle in a girl without saying "PEDs!!". There's was someone is this thread saying that Erin Quinn "could" "maybe" be using something. Like, the girl is just lean and knows how to pose.
I was just joking. I think is funny how some people here can't see a slight sight of muscle in a girl without saying "PEDs!!". There's was someone is this thread saying that Erin Quinn "could" "maybe" be using something. Like, the girl is just lean and knows how to pose.
It’s not because we can’t see a “slight” sight of muscle in a girl without saying “PEDs”; It’s because none of the women here have what I would consider a “slight” amount of muscle.
I do strength sports, and I’m around a lot of lifters both natural and enhanced, and I can tell you right now that the most dedicated women lifters that I know who are legitimately natural and have been doing it for years do not have the kinds of physiques that we see on this site. And in fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the guys here who are accustomed to seeing women on this site would look at one of those natty lifters and think that they barely lift.
It's Natalia Ejsmont. She is the pinnacle of the limit what a woman can achieve naturally. She is a claimed natty and honestly I don't see a reason not to agree. She is very strong but very feminine and nothing like a roided beast. She works hard as hell, and her killer body is the proof. Weighing at 175, and a former kickboxer turned bodybuilder I don't even want to imagine what she could do someone breaking into her house.