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Technique does matter much more than strength, but unless you're armwrestling girls that are trained armwrestlers then chances are strength was the biggest factor in your matches. In terms of muscle girls for instance Jen Cowan put more effort than most into technique and would regularly give bigger girls a tough time.
Technique does matter much more than strength, but unless you're armwrestling girls that are trained armwrestlers then chances are strength was the biggest factor in your matches. In terms of muscle girls for instance Jen Cowan put more effort than most into technique and would regularly give bigger girls a tough time.
Right. I think at the upper levels, it's more technique and experience. Everyone else, it's probably like 95% strength.
I think technique is important if the opponents are almost equal. Then there is the difference how to deal with your body to get the small advantage. If the difference is to big the stronger one can simply push down the weaker one. Long ago I had a girlfriend who was going to the gym regularly and she was only a little shorter but she had wider shoulders and her muscles were also bigger than mine. Not a lot but when I was standing in front of her or there was a reflection in a window I though I was a little smaller. Also when we sat at a table and our lower arms were next to each other it was obvious that my arm was a little smaller. A few times we did an arm wrestling match and always she bend my wrist back and i could not hold her. Each time she nailed my hand down to the wood. Donβt get me wrong she was not much stronger than me. But in interaction with her full body and because of the advantage of her training she defeated me in less than minute. Only when she allowed me to use my second arm I could beat her. So it was technique but at the same time my wrist was to weak.
The people I've spoken to who have actually competed all tell me it depends, but it can be as even as 50% technique 50% strength. The one thing that is for sure is technique matters a lot more than most people think it does.
Now, you can think what you want about this, but even if it's partially rigged it looks pretty darn convincing and it says something the value of technique to me.
Someone with excellent technique can beat someone who is stronger, to a degree, even if it's not a competitive match. The technique generally entails explosive power and getting over quick for one thing. Most non-competitive arm wrestlers aren't ready for that. "Normal" people just pull against each other and test strength, they don't come 100% out of the gate and try to win like a pro.
I've lost against a few people who did that to me and they weren't competitors or anything, they just had the technique. I arm wrestled a young woman (when i was younger myself, the story is in another thread). At any rate, she wasn't very muscular or crazy strong looking. She was strong, but that alone couldn't explain how I had absolutely NO chance at beating her. In 5-6 attempts I wasn't even close. I'm not a total wimp either, I work out, and this was in my college days.
I'm not a big dude granted, I'm about 5'7" and I was maybe 165 lbs then and fairly fit. An average woman with no technique should not have been able to beat me and definitely shouldn't have been able to beat me while making it almost look easy. But this girl kept her arm tucked in tight to her body and she moved her whole torso with her arm.
She had technique and yes above average strength, but I'm confident we were at MOST maybe close to evenly matched in strength MAYBE. It was absolutely her technique that made her impossible for me to beat. I had NO technique at all then, but I recognized that she definitely seemed to know what she was doing because most people do not arm wrestle like that unless someone taught them (her father did it turned out)
I think strength wins at beginner level between people who just do it for fun
Yes, because both people don't have technique. If you put one of those inexperienced people up against a person who is only 80% as strong as them, but has excellent technique they will almost certainly lose. That's kind of the point about technique. It's always a factor. It varies how much though. The closer two people are in upper body strength, the more important technique becomes. At some point, brute strength will win out over the best technique, but that point is much, much further along than most people think. I've seen several competitive arm wrestlers absolutely demolish people who were unquestionably significantly stronger and bigger than them but had little or no technique. You'd be surprised. The ratio varies, but technique matters more than most people think and strength matters less. Also the size of a persons biceps or forearms alone are not a great indicator of how good they will be at arm wrestling contrary to popular belief.
Yes, because both people don't have technique. If you put one of those inexperienced people up against a person who is only 80% as strong as them, but has excellent technique they will almost certainly lose. That's kind of the point about technique. It's always a factor. It varies how much though. The closer two people are in upper body strength, the more important technique becomes. At some point, brute strength will win out over the best technique, but that point is much, much further along than most people think. I've seen several competitive arm wrestlers absolutely demolish people who were unquestionably significantly stronger and bigger than them but had little or no technique. You'd be surprised. The ratio varies, but technique matters more than most people think and strength matters less. Also the size of a persons biceps or forearms alone are not a great indicator of how good they will be at arm wrestling contrary to popular belief.
Yes, technique if it's really good can make all the difference, so it becomes obvious that training is as much about learning technique as in developing strength. I have mentioned before how Deb Banaian won against Christy Resendes who is bigger and may be stronger in various areas of her body, at least, though Deb does have extremely strong arms. Deb allowed Christy to take her almost down to the pin, but then held her just a few inches off the pin for a long time with her extremely strong biceps and forearms. Then, when Christy was begining to really tire in her shoulder and body--the top rolling muscles--Deb shifted her weight and the emphasis onto her shoulders and body. She was able to slowly within 8 seconds or so pull Christy over because of the fatigue only. When I described this under the video (it was on YouTube) Deb later replied that I had interpreted her moves exactly right. So, if your technique is much better than your opponent's, it can pay big dividends.
There are tons of videos on YouTube which evidence how important technique is. There are videos of trained kids beating grown adults, there are videos of professional male armwrestlers beating strongmen who are about twice their weight, there are videos of professional female armwrestlers beating jacked male gymgoers.
On the flip side there are a few videos out there of huge untrained dudes easily beating professional female armwrestlers, and there used to be a video which I can no longer find anywhere in which the massive UFC fighter Gabi Garcia completely and utterly crushes a much smaller champion female armwrestler.
Obviously technique will not be enough if your opponent is enormously stronger, but if you were to master the technique I think it's pretty clear you could beat the vast majority of untrained opponents.
I lost to one girl when we were both 18. She beat me in literally 5 seconds or less. I also was a little tipsy on alcohol while she was sober.
But I always wanted to clarify: Did she beat me that easily MAINLY because of her strength? That's what I'd prefer to believe.
She didn't have any special technique. She just pushed the same way I did and dominated.
The alcohol in me didn't help, but I doubt it would have made much of a difference.
I think this girl was just way stronger. What do you think?
I compete in Armwrestling and once pinned one of my countrys top strongman competitors, albeit him outweighing me by 30kg and outbenching me by 120kg (250 to my 130). Technique matters a lot, but you'll still need to be strong in the right spots to be able to acess it.
Armwrestling is a lot of technique and yes strength is needed too but is not the dominating force when do it right.
Last year at a expo i entert a amateur tournament by pro rules and the competitors was getting some Training and advice how to do by the Pro armwrestles that worked at this exhibition booth. I had a nice and pretty good technique before but this Was a new Level i learned many things. Most impressive was my 3 times armwrestle with strap. First time I did Strap is used when arms slip off at push
Is starts with getting the best Position for arms and the body too. Next is get the best grip and amrm and wrist angle. At Pro armwrestle the referee control this, but at all other armwrestling there is a good chance for get in advanage from first π Next is at start turn in shoulder and get upper body in good position for use the whole strength of arms, shoulders, chest, Abs and so on. This All in combination increeces the Power of the push immense and makes me able to hold and push down much stronger and bigger opponents. OK there is a Limit for everything and at a too big size and strength difference there is no chance.
Just a short preview about how important and effektiv the technique is.
About the biceps role at arm wrestle Most think the biceps shows how strong someone is at arm wrestle but sorry biceps plays not the Main role. Biceps is needed at start and at hold the opponents push. I use my bicep strength often wehen my arm is pushed from Center and hold the push in a Position my biceps is used to work hard at Curls for let Power out the opponent and then get my chance to Attack. At pushing down opponents arm the biceps loose more his role at push down the other arm and the other muscles work much more. This is clearly to see when looking at the bicep contraction during a armwrestling Match. At Start biceps contracts explosiv, at getting in a disadvantage from Center biceps comes out harder than at every flex, at pushing other arm from Center bicep contraction releases the more the other arm goes down. At about push other arm half way down there is not much preasue on the biceps anymore and this is clearly to see at the lost muscle contraction
Some more including samples how to do it wrong here https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/...
Armwrestling is a lot of technique and yes strength is needed too but is not the dominating force when do it right.
Last year at a expo i entert a amateur tournament by pro rules and the competitors was getting some Training and advice how to do by the Pro armwrestles that worked at this exhibition booth. I had a nice and pretty good technique before but this Was a new Level i learned many things. Most impressive was my 3 times armwrestle with strap. First time I did Strap is used when arms slip off at push
Is starts with getting the best Position for arms and the body too. Next is get the best grip and amrm and wrist angle. At Pro armwrestle the referee control this, but at all other armwrestling there is a good chance for get in advanage from first π Next is at start turn in shoulder and get upper body in good position for use the whole strength of arms, shoulders, chest, Abs and so on. This All in combination increeces the Power of the push immense and makes me able to hold and push down much stronger and bigger opponents. OK there is a Limit for everything and at a too big size and strength difference there is no chance.
Just a short preview about how important and effektiv the technique is.
About the biceps role at arm wrestle Most think the biceps shows how strong someone is at arm wrestle but sorry biceps plays not the Main role. Biceps is needed at start and at hold the opponents push. I use my bicep strength often wehen my arm is pushed from Center and hold the push in a Position my biceps is used to work hard at Curls for let Power out the opponent and then get my chance to Attack. At pushing down opponents arm the biceps loose more his role at push down the other arm and the other muscles work much more. This is clearly to see when looking at the bicep contraction during a armwrestling Match. At Start biceps contracts explosiv, at getting in a disadvantage from Center biceps comes out harder than at every flex, at pushing other arm from Center bicep contraction releases the more the other arm goes down. At about push other arm half way down there is not much preasue on the biceps anymore and this is clearly to see at the lost muscle contraction
So true. The biceps is more about defense than offense when arm wrestling.
In consequence, we can say that hand gripping strength is very important in arm wrestling sport and that it is one of the elements that affect the performance positively.
Yes a good grip hepls and can make a advantage
Use this for my pole training but for armwresle preparing great too https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/comment/2379815/
Armwrestling is usually seen as a test of strength but this is only strictly true if both have identical technique
I would love to armwrestle Sarah backman but even if I was as strong as her she would slam me on technique. This sort of takes the fun out of it as a test of strength. I would therefore prefer to play mercy against her so its her strength that wins rather than technique
Yes a good grip hepls and can make a advantage
Use this for my pole training but for armwresle preparing great too https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/comment/2379815/
Definitely true. I have armwrestled people with bigger stronger hands than me and it is hopeless. They can easily twist you into a losing position
Technique does matter much more than strength, but unless you're armwrestling girls that are trained armwrestlers then chances are strength was the biggest factor in your matches. In terms of muscle girls for instance Jen Cowan put more effort than most into technique and would regularly give bigger girls a tough time.
I still wonder at her match with Skylar Rene in a Herbiceps video. Skylar was much stronger than she looked, and since arm strength often plays a smaller role than other areas of the body, Jen's loss may not be totally surprising. But, Jen did complain about sliding around on the table, and it did look as if she ended up with the left side of her body (they were arm wrestling right handed) turned outward, which I believes reduces leverage--it's just not a good position. But, Jen at the end tried to use her quite large biceps to pull Skylar's arm away from her body, and not only did that not work, it put Jen in a position with even less leverage than before and she lost right away. You just wonder if she wasn't just having a bad day, or perhaps may have been fatigued from a big workout.
I still wonder at her match with Skylar Rene in a Herbiceps video. Skylar was much stronger than she looked, and since arm strength often plays a smaller role than other areas of the body, Jen's loss may not be totally surprising. But, Jen did complain about sliding around on the table, and it did look as if she ended up with the left side of her body (they were arm wrestling right handed) turned outward, which I believes reduces leverage--it's just not a good position. But, Jen at the end tried to use her quite large biceps to pull Skylar's arm away from her body, and not only did that not work, it put Jen in a position with even less leverage than before and she lost right away. You just wonder if she wasn't just having a bad day, or perhaps may have been fatigued from a big workout.
In that match I think there are a number of factors at play. Firstly, the slipping tablecloth clearly plays a huge role as it allows Skylar to pull Jen across the table thus tightening the angle and making it very difficult for her to get any leverage or position herself to hook the arm. Skylar then utilises her body extremely well by almost immediately getting her bodyweight over Jen's arm. All of this I suspect was made easier simply because Skyler is the bigger girl and able to manoeuvre Jen around the slippery table, plus Skylar is obviously a strong girl herself and seemed to have very strong wrist strength to not give any ground to Jen in that department.
Even after all this though Jen doesn't really get beaten so much as she just gives up because she clearly got very pissed off at all these factors that skewed things far away from just armwrestling. But she didn't ever take losing very well, there are some matches where she got manhandled by Jeanette Krupp and the toxicity emanating from Jen is just ridiculous.
In that match I think there are a number of factors at play. Firstly, the slipping tablecloth clearly plays a huge role as it allows Skylar to pull Jen across the table thus tightening the angle and making it very difficult for her to get any leverage or position herself to hook the arm. Skylar then utilises her body extremely well by almost immediately getting her bodyweight over Jen's arm. All of this I suspect was made easier simply because Skyler is the bigger girl and able to manoeuvre Jen around the slippery table, plus Skylar is obviously a strong girl herself and seemed to have very strong wrist strength to not give any ground to Jen in that department.
Even after all this though Jen doesn't really get beaten so much as she just gives up because she clearly got very pissed off at all these factors making that skewed things far away from just armwrestling. But she didn't ever take losing very well, there are some matches where she got manhandled by Jeanette Krupp and the toxicity emanating from Jen is just ridiculous.
Never thought about that possibility. I thought that once Jen's arm went to 90 degrees after she tried to pull Skylar toward her and failed, Skylar just had the advantages and went for the pin. As you say, it's actually possible Jen just gave up. Seems at times she just runs out of patience! Up until that moment, they are pretty much deadlocked.
As someone who admires strong women, I like to imagine that all the women who bested me in arm wrestling were simply stronger.
If you talk to people who take arm wrestling more seriously, they often insist that technique matters much more than strength.
To be honest, I think this is a bit overblown. Technique matters, but that's moreso for competitive arm wrestlers.
What do you think?