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tbh i don't think many of them read these boards for reviews at all. maybe one or two. and depending on how people respond when they leave, they may not read those either.
frequently on patreon i will ask for people to complete the one question exit survey when they unsub. it helps me, as it helps all creators. most don't do it at all. that's not helpful. i do have some regulars that for whatever reason will unsub in the middle of the month and return in two months, or the very next month. a few times they will leave legit feedback. but most don't interact that way, and given what i've seen in comments on OF most are content to stay silent.
the fact is that if they have 50 subs, for example, and and a handful leave because their stuff sucks, the majority will stick around because they might think they're getting BTS access, or whoever is running their dms is responsive enough, or they get strung along in hopes something will happen, and those are the ones that stick around (plus the hardcore fans). i don't think i've ever seen anyone that was "bad" significantly change the way they were operating their page after people have complained. and i NEVER see complaints in the comments. probably because they get deleted.
The automated messages masquerading as personalised messages really irk me. Not only does it clutter up your inbox but it also makes the creator seem really insincere and exploitative. I can only presume that most of them aren't aware that OF inbox does distinguish between those messages which are directly sent to a subscriber and those that are just sent out in bulk.
i would like the option to opt in/out of mass mailings, unless they're actually quality. but if they aren't i'd probably just leave.
a few women have def been responsive, if not chatty. but if you're not tipping in the messages to get them bumped to the top of the inbox be prepared to wait.
a few women have def been responsive, if not chatty. but if you're not tipping in the messages to get them bumped to the top of the inbox be prepared to wait.
Well that's the part I can't stand, personally. To have to tip extra for each message you send. I don't mind it so much if she's at least prompt at responding, but if she takes forever then that's a deal-breaker for me personally. Because to look at it from my side of things, I've paid the subscription fee, tipped her x number of times (depending how many messages were sent) typically with the intention of spending more money (for a request or w/e). It all adds up very quickly.
I never tip. Only pay when the work is done. And if I don’t think it’s worth it, I don’t open it, so she doesn’t get money but I don’t get noods
I know there are some women reading these comments to apply our overall feedback to their approach so I want to add that I've subscribed to several different models and the ones that I find myself going back to offer consistent content (frequency/quality/explicitness) that feels sustainable. They also tend to have an approach to the postings and messages which have an air of "I'm talking to a group that I care about" rather than trying to create a sense of direct intimacy which any subscriber who isn't problematic should be realistic about. I know, for example, that you don't care if I personally contact you or purchase your video but that if I do it is helpful and appreciated - but ultimately I'm just another number. And I'm ok with that. It's a transactional relationship and it's ok to apply a customer service model to it rather than a GFE model. But I guess some subscribers want the illusion of intimacy. I'm just saying that there are some of us who find it insincere in a very glaring way.
great post, I agree with you, If don't want to do this, then don't stop wasting your time and customer
I can understand that but I don't know what her alternative would be. If she has 100's of subscribers you can't expect her to send personalized messages to everyone? Or are you saying you'd rather have those kinds of messages disabled?
I don't have a problem with sending out bulk messages to all subscribers to distribute content or do a bit of advertising, although an option to disable it would be nice, but I can't stand the "hey babe what are you up to?" style spam messages. They're obviously engineered in the hope that a subscriber won't realise they're all automated and be sucked into a parasocial relationship.
I also don't deal with anyone who insists on tipping on every message. If I'm going to be paying $30+ for a custom I don't expect to have to plug an extra $15 on messages just to get to that point, and sometimes they might not deliver on the custom in which case you've wasted $15 on absolutely nothing.
Yep. Basically I can appreciate that this is a business as long as you understand that customers should be treated like people with the ability to detect insincerity. Just be yourself, be nice, understand that I'm willing to pay for something if it's presented honestly, and if I wanted to be treated like a pay pig I'd ask to. I get the feeling that a lot of models are under the impression that if they present what they offer honestly and accurately in their bio they'd get less subscribers but I guarantee that I'd be more inclined to pay a higher price for someone who accurately advertises no paywalled content after subscribing than someone who has a low monthly but charges $20 to see a single nipple for half a second.
Zlata Tarasova has made Onlyfans page.. does anybody know what is the link to her site? :)
Also looking for the zlata link. Anybody got it yet?
No not yet... but wow! She is so big now :)
thicknjuicy ( onlyfans.com/thicknjuicy )
I coughed up the $20 for this because of her seemingly impressive backlog of onlyfans content as well as having loved her combination of femininity and "thick strong" muscular look in footage I've seen of her. Overall I would not recommend.
First off, I would join only for the backlog, as recently she has gotten a boob job and seems to no longer be in her prime from a muscular development point of view.
Second, for the most part her onlyfans is just not very muscle-focused. If you scroll back far enough in her content there are some decent still images of her body and back (which is great and her strongest suit) especially, but the videos are very disappointing and consist mainly of butt/boob closeups, with hardly any muscle visible at all. What few flexing clips there are are short or low quality.
I'd say the backlog of still images is worth $5 if I'm being generous, but certainly not the actual $20 subscription price.
Just want to say mighty_shehulk has been a pretty solid OF experience. Very responsive for awesome prices.
Few questions: Whats been everyone’s experience with MuscleGiesha’s custom prices? And does Paige Sandgren have any paysite custom stuff?
She is not the cheapest but reasonable for her class of physique. BUT... What you get is many many times better and more effort put into it than most other girls I've come across. Well worth it!
Yeah she really loves doing what she does, and she legit loves and appreciates her fans/followers. You'll always get top quality from her. Definitely my personal favorite on OF (as I've mentioned many times before).
Any updates on Rene's that you know of?
Rene Miller?
I found her pretty aggressive in her DM blasts, felt like I was getting one or two a day for PPV stuff. But she was also pretty frequent on the main postings as well, just not always topless or anything. I can't recall how long the videos were but things tended to be toward the XXX end of it and less like "let's do a flex show"
i'm sure she'd do it if asked.
Rene Miller?
I found her pretty aggressive in her DM blasts, felt like I was getting one or two a day for PPV stuff. But she was also pretty frequent on the main postings as well, just not always topless or anything. I can't recall how long the videos were but things tended to be toward the XXX end of it and less like "let's do a flex show"
i'm sure she'd do it if asked.
Thank you!
I know there are some women reading these comments to apply our overall feedback to their approach so I want to add that I've subscribed to several different models and the ones that I find myself going back to offer consistent content (frequency/quality/explicitness) that feels sustainable. They also tend to have an approach to the postings and messages which have an air of "I'm talking to a group that I care about" rather than trying to create a sense of direct intimacy which any subscriber who isn't problematic should be realistic about. I know, for example, that you don't care if I personally contact you or purchase your video but that if I do it is helpful and appreciated - but ultimately I'm just another number. And I'm ok with that. It's a transactional relationship and it's ok to apply a customer service model to it rather than a GFE model. But I guess some subscribers want the illusion of intimacy. I'm just saying that there are some of us who find it insincere in a very glaring way.
The biggest thing for me is that I want to know what I'm getting and what I'm not getting before I subscribe and far to many pages aren't up front about this. What's included? What do I have to pay an additional amount for? Are you open, at some point, to doing content which you currently are not open to? If I'm never going to see anything topless or beyond, I'd like to know and it would probably foster better retention than it would scare people off. On the other hand, if you are going to offer more explicit videos I want to know how much more that will cost. I don't need exact numbers or promises here but give us a chance to make an informed decision instead of being asked to pay a premium to find out, and then likely not renew.
Last thing: I want to know that you do this because you enjoy it. Even if you don't. But if you don't, I'd genuinely prefer that you not do it. And the price point that you set things at, to me, is an indicator of what you enjoy doing and what you would really rather not have to do. Dick comments being priced super high makes a lot of sense. I can't imagine it's enjoyable and making it a paid service gives you an easy out for the people who send them without paying. I wish we lived in a world where you didn't get randos sending these pictures but we do and I get this as a proactive move. Whatever you're charging for that, you should charge more. That said, if you are going to charge anything above $10 for any paywalled content I start to wonder if you even wanted to make it. If it's 30 minutes or so I get it but if we're being honest most videos are about 3-5 minutes. I don't want to pay you for doing something that you need me to give you $30 for. It makes me feel like I'm the bad, exploitative middle manager who you changed your weekend plans for. I don't want to be that person and if your only motivation is the money then I don't think the short term profit from this page is going to be worth the long term feeling it might leave you.
Anyways. Probably not helpful for anyone looking for a page to subscribe to but there have been a few models chiming in about reading so I imagine there are several more who are lurking as well. If a moderator feels this post is off topic and wants to delete it I won't take it personally.