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Jul 31, 2022 - permalink

(This is attempt #2 at improving the image comments; attempt #1 was here)

I have added a quality filter for newly created image comments. If the comment you are posting falls below the quality threshold, you will get an error message when you click the post button. You can then revise your comment if you want to.

I am deliberately not saying how the quality filter works. Depending on your commenting style, you may run into it almost never, or you may run into it for basically every comment you post.

This is only active for image comments, and not for commenting anywhere else on the site.

If you are trying to post a comment and the filter is stopping you, and you are really convinced the filter is wrong, post here with the content of your comment.

This was rejected: This woman is strong. Is that her max?

Jul 31, 2022 - permalink

This was rejected: This woman is strong. Is that her max?

Say thanks to to one who endless Spam Pics with his strong and powerful phantasies 😜

Chainer
Aug 01, 2022 - permalink

This was rejected: This woman is strong. Is that her max?

Looking at your comments, I think this is correct. Also looking at your comments from before and after the filter was implemented, this seems like the filter working as intended.

Aug 01, 2022 - edited Jul 13, 2024 - permalink

So someone is saying we should let AI harvest those boings?

Aug 02, 2022 - permalink

@zarklephaser4

Thank you for those insights! I don't think there is motivation or time for the admins of this site to implement something as sophisticated to tag and sort pics. But if someone could make it work here, this AI-tool surely could be sold for a lot of money. Or does it exist already for small community social media sites like this one?

Aug 02, 2022 - permalink

Thank you for those insights! I don't think there is motivation or time for the admins of this site to implement something as sophisticated to tag and sort pics. But if someone could make it work here, this AI-tool surely could be sold for a lot of money. Or does it exist already for small community social media sites like this one?

That could have been true a few years ago, but if you keep up with AI developments, its clear that AI will become ubiquitous, and cheap, and soon. Open AI is open, and is one of the most advanced, for example. It's only a matter of time for even a backwater site like GWM to have sophisticated AI available. And it will help us find exactly what we are searching for. And as @zarklephaser4 pointed out so well, it is shortsighted to add a quality filter at this late stage so close to the AI revolution, without understanding the implications. Those knee jerk responses really are important from a AI building a sense of what photos to prioritise.

The quality filter is old paradigm. It is like taking a gun, pointing at your foot, and shooting.

Aug 02, 2022 - edited Jul 13, 2024 - permalink

There will be new and more confusing ways to shoot yourself in the foot.

Chainer
Aug 03, 2022 - permalink

That could have been true a few years ago, but if you keep up with AI developments, its clear that AI will become ubiquitous, and cheap, and soon. Open AI is open, and is one of the most advanced, for example. It's only a matter of time for even a backwater site like GWM to have sophisticated AI available. And it will help us find exactly what we are searching for. And as @zarklephaser4 pointed out so well, it is shortsighted to add a quality filter at this late stage so close to the AI revolution, without understanding the implications. Those knee jerk responses really are important from a AI building a sense of what photos to prioritise.

The quality filter is old paradigm. It is like taking a gun, pointing at your foot, and shooting.

I'll take a definite improvement now over a slight chance at an improvement in the not-so-near future.

I'm not even sure the existence of the low-effort comments would be helpful to an ML model trained on the comments in some way, or if it would be pure noise, dominated by a relatively small number of users that doesn't generalize at all.

Aug 03, 2022 - permalink

I am not an expert on using AI. I just like knowing about the philosophical and metaphysical side. In other words, what an AI is and what it is not, what it can do and what it can never do. It can never "become conscious" or "take over the world" or "program itself" or have "good will" or "evil intentions", like something or have a desire for something or "ensure" or "be concerned about" its survival.

I agree, and it's something that always bugs me about this myth about AI. Hollywood does nothing to help this perception about computers coming to "life".

Aug 03, 2022 - permalink

I'll take a definite improvement now over a slight chance at an improvement in the not-so-near future.

I'm not even sure the existence of the low-effort comments would be helpful to an ML model trained on the comments in some way, or if it would be pure noise, dominated by a relatively small number of users that doesn't generalize at all.

It's your site Chainer, you must do what you think will work best. Hopefully you wont exclude short comments with excellent search terms which will help with future searching, sorting or tagging like 'peak', 'split', 'vein' or whatever the specific thing is that people are into.

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Aug 03, 2022 - permalink
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Aug 03, 2022 - edited Aug 03, 2022 - permalink

I disagree that AI won't become conscious. Initially we will (mis)perceive AI as conscious but as it becomes more sophisticated we won't be able to tell if it is conscious or not. Therefore, we'll probably, eventually feel compelled to legislate for this, however erroneous this concept may be. At least, initially erroneous. AI will probably result in a representation of consciousness, but eventually how will we be able to construe "artificial consciousness" from "organic consciousness"?

Aug 03, 2022 - edited Jul 13, 2024 - permalink

So are we fooling ourselves or not?

Aug 04, 2022 - edited Jul 13, 2024 - permalink

Or are we perhaps even being seduced?

Aug 04, 2022 - edited Aug 04, 2022 - permalink

Zarklephaser4 - Rather than all this offensive bull why don't you just say "I don't understand what you're talking about" instead of dressing it up as rambling nonsense? It would make your comments far more succinct, less idiotic and less nauseating...

"Are you trying to hypnotize people? Swinging a pocket watch, staring intently from under slanted eyebrows. "You will misperceive AI as conscious." A clear pause. "Then you will not be able to tell if it is conscious." Another pause, then continuing on a lighter tone. "You will think these bunny slippers are alive and willing to go for a walk without you. That has to be stopped. Now wake up!"

What kind of misunderstanding is this? Talk about delusional! You live in a fantasy world full of miscomprehensions and clunky, facile notions!

Aug 04, 2022 - edited Jul 13, 2024 - permalink

But I do understand everything.

Aug 05, 2022 - permalink

I'd wish you'd get back on topic - this thread is not about AI in the end. But Cres has some valid points and seems to know about the implications of AI in my opinion. You should do some more reading Zarklephaser.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_on_...

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Aug 05, 2022 - permalink
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cgsweat
Aug 05, 2022 - permalink

While this might be a stimulating discussion for a small handful of users, I might remind everyone that this is a website dedicated to girls with muscle, and as Chainer stated in the original post:

If you are trying to post a comment and the filter is stopping you, and you are really convinced the filter is wrong, post here with the content of your comment.

Unless you are reporting an issue with being able to make a comment under this new filter, then anything else seems to be off topic. There are any number of other sites and forums you could go to to discuss AI and whether it's sentient or not, or the ethics or it, or w/e.

Comments continuing this off topic discussion below this line will be deleted.

[deleted]
Aug 05, 2022 - permalink

I had a recent experience with the comment filter that I think is silly. I'm not a fan of this new feature, though I am 100 % behind people being more respectful toward the women featured on this site and the people (like me) who frequent it.

I replied to a comment about Irina Pimenova being from Russia. I said, "Think she's from Ukraine," and the comment filter wouldn't let me post that. Then I changed it to, "I think that she is from Ukraine, not Russia," and it accepted that.

Is it just because I lengthened the sentence? Does it filter out incomplete sentences or something, even though they convey the same information? I don't understand.

cgsweat
Aug 05, 2022 - permalink

I think those are good questions, and they might very well be part of a bug, or at least based on what I was told about how the filter works.

Chainer would have to answer that though.

Chainer
Aug 06, 2022 - permalink

I replied to a comment about Irina Pimenova being from Russia. I said, "Think she's from Ukraine," and the comment filter wouldn't let me post that. Then I changed it to, "I think that she is from Ukraine, not Russia," and it accepted that.

Are you sure that "Think she's from Ukraine" is exactly, word for word, what you said? Because I am trying to reproduce it, and that comment gets accepted. If you just said "she's from Ukraine" that would not be accepted.

That said, I do think the filter is due for some adjusting to make it less likely that the presence or absence of a single irrelevant word makes as much of a difference.

Aug 06, 2022 - permalink

Why wouldn't "shes from Ukraine" be accepted? How is that a low effort comment? This seems to be getting ridiculous!

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Aug 06, 2022 - edited Aug 06, 2022 - permalink

Are you sure that "Think she's from Ukraine" is exactly, word for word, what you said? Because I am trying to reproduce it, and that comment gets accepted. If you just said "she's from Ukraine" that would not be accepted.

That said, I do think the filter is due for some adjusting to make it less likely that the presence or absence of a single irrelevant word makes as much of a difference.

I'm not sure if "Think she's from Ukraine" is exactly what I posted, but it wasn't just "She's from Ukraine" because I genuinely don't know for sure where she's from. But I do know that I just extended the unaccepted sentence by a few words to say the exact same thing and it was accepted. I might've said "Isn't she Ukrainian?" I forget now. My memory sucks.

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