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I said this on another board, but it's worth repeating
I half agree on the terms of deletion. I don't think she should be entirely removed, but either a warning tag on her images saying something like "This image has been morphed" or "This person may have morphed their images" (i may make a mock-up of this for demonstration)
or
Create a separate section in the forums away from the main page, like the trans women / fantasy boards.
I don't think it's fair for these athletes to get so much attention when they've faked their way to the top, and when others may not get the attention they truly deserve because of it
I agree with you, especially with a few recent threads popping up about underrated women or asking how many women that get posted are true naturals.
Thanks for the mock up, and the suggestions. Another thing floated is maybe restricting photos to the boards and having videos stay up. While it's still possible to do some post work on a video (Karina Nicoldine was another previously removed one because she edits everything: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cb_I2yujC-l/?u...), the effort required makes it a little restrictive in relation to maybe just dumping it in an app and dragging out/in parts of the body
A recent posting. The vertical bar above her rump looks bends at angle (until it doesn't).
i'm going to leave this one up as an example for now (otherwise the link wont work) but i already deleted another one of the photos in the same spot, different angle, featuring a bend in the vertical pole that, in this photo, is above her shadow.
as a reference, the above photo is completely straight, and the one I deleted has a warp.
they post their own evidence against them
I said this on another board, but it's worth repeating
I half agree on the terms of deletion. I don't think she should be entirely removed, but either a warning tag on her images saying something like "This image has been morphed" or "This person may have morphed their images" (i may make a mock-up of this for demonstration)
or
Create a separate section in the forums away from the main page, like the trans women / fantasy boards.
I think the second option is better than the first one. I would like to see actual muscular women, rather than women, who while still muscular, their pictures do not accurately show the size of their muscles.
I used to think that guys assuming that the majority of women on this site are natural were the most self-delusional of us.
But this thread has definitely opened my eyes. Anyone who thinks that the majority of these photos are not enhanced or optimized in any way definitely takes the cake.
Like... sure.. there's no possible way that this pic didn't receive skin softening and the PS liquify tool to reduce her waist and flatten her stomach. Sunny paid a photographer something like $800 for this shoot and then she told him... "just post the raw pics out of camera, I simply can't lie to my fans"
As someone who's done retouching as an amateur... it's EASY. Making muscle groups bigger, making abdomens smaller, making noses slimmer and eyes bigger... this is easy to do. And you're fooling yourself if you think that most of the truly popular girls aren't doing this to every photo that they post to IG. And why not? They're selling a fantasy. They're selling a vision of themselves. They're not reporters for the New York Times. They're under no obligation whatsoever to be "truthful" about how their body actually looks in a wholly unedited photo straight out of the camera.
I'm also in the "who cares" camp with Eun Hee Kang. I think that it's been established that this is NOT a site to chronicle and celebrate women's athletics for the sport of it. It's a spot to oogle and appreciate muscular women that we're attracted to. Hence Vladi Galagan is WAY more popular than countless women who regularly compete and win bodybuilding and fitness contests. She's f--ing hot, and that's what this site is about.
Eun Hee Kang is hot and certainly has really big muscles, so like, who really cares if she's posting enhanced photos or not? She's not going to win or not win an award if she's on this site. If you don't like her, it's supremely easy to move on to another model.
@Musles_Toez I always skip pictures with extreme filters and report obvious morphs. If it was up to me any and all filters would be banned, even the slightest retouching of images. I sometimes comment my disappointment when I see someone go mad with filters. Like the Lena Ramstainer pic by bodycapture.
Some of these women want to lie to themselves and a bunch of people here want to be lied to and look at illusions, be my guest, just do it on their social media where it doesn't dilute the content of this site.
A line must be drawn for obvious morphs, and you and the others equating image filters with those, is beyond ridiculous. We might as well start posting deepfakes or fully artificial images if everything is the same.
I think it should stay in the main page but maybe flag people who manipulate their stuff and then be able to filter them out so you don’t see them if you don’t want to
I think the second option is better than the first one. I would like to see actual muscular women, rather than women, who while still muscular, their pictures do not accurately show the size of their muscles.
If it was up to me any and all filters would be banned, even the slightest retouching of images.
That's not an option because it would drastically reduce the number of pictures posted (and would overwhelm moderators). I've been on the opposite end of the spectrum -- I'd like to see morphs allowed. My reason has always been, "it's all a fantasy anyway," but for others, it seems to me, image manipulation undermines the fantasy. Then there are those who take it even further and insist hyper-muscular women are natural (no PEDs).
Instead of a comment filter, how about a photoshop filter? I understand fantasy morphs still would not be allowed. Jacked Margot Robbie has less to do with Margot Robbie than the photo editor.
I did say "if it was up to me" I know it is not realistic and would get a lot of people's ire. But it's not a feasibility issue mods are not actively moderating images, they only jump if an image gets multiple reports, or if they accidentally bump into something.
PED's are 100% real and part of the industry. What someone makes in paint is 0% real. And I'm not dissing fantasy, I love high quality morphs that can pass off as real, I especially liked edinaus's images before he nuked his deviantart. But I don't want fake images mixed in with the real ones.
It's one thing to make believe, but trying to pass it off as real is a big no no.
That's not an option because it would drastically reduce the number of pictures posted (and would overwhelm moderators). I've been on the opposite end of the spectrum -- I'd like to see morphs allowed. My reason has always been, "it's all a fantasy anyway," but for others, it seems to me, image manipulation undermines the fantasy. Then there are those who take it even further and insist hyper-muscular women are natural (no PEDs).
Instead of a comment filter, how about a photoshop filter? I understand fantasy morphs still would not be allowed. Jacked Margot Robbie has less to do with Margot Robbie than the photo editor.
I'm with you. I mean... is anyone coming to this site with the intention of seriously evaluating women for their athletic potential? Do we really need a totally truthful and accurate representation?
I think the fact that there are basically zero female members and the most popular thread is about onlyfans is pretty telling. This is a site for thirsty guys (like me) to get turned on. I love it for that. I check in here multiple times a day. It turns me on a lot.
The mentality of coming here for pleasure then getting angry and reporting pics to the mods because of some BS like "this has enhancement," "she's too masculine," "she's not muscular enough," "she's trans," "she's on too many steroids," "she has a fake tan," is kind of mind-blowing to me. Who has time for this? Lots of women on here don't turn me on for one reason or another, and I simply move on to the MANY that do. Would never even occur to me to complain about the ones that don't, and spend my time trying to police the integrity of what is essentially an erotic interest / fetish site.
I bet it's the same base psychology of going to a strip club, making eye contact with a stripper, and convincing yourself that she's in love with you. Maybe some guys can't be attracted to an image unless they somehow - ludicrously - imagine that the woman in the image could somehow be theirs. And when that's not possible, they want the image removed. Seems crazy to me, but this is a crazy world.
Yes, the site is curated (you have no idea how many trash/unfitting images get thrown out, because most people don't see them). If you want exaggerated morphs, go to DeviantArt.
@Musles_Toez I always skip pictures with extreme filters and report obvious morphs. If it was up to me any and all filters would be banned, even the slightest retouching of images. I sometimes comment my disappointment when I see someone go mad with filters. Like the Lena Ramstainer pic by bodycapture.
Some of these women want to lie to themselves and a bunch of people here want to be lied to and look at illusions, be my guest, just do it on their social media where it doesn't dilute the content of this site.
A line must be drawn for obvious morphs, and you and the others equating image filters with those, is beyond ridiculous. We might as well start posting deepfakes or fully artificial images if everything is the same.
Some image filters work by morphing the face. Whether it's removing a bump or smoothing the skin, that is a type of morph. At the end of the day, this isn't a beauty pageant, most people are fans of hers because of the physique she developed. So if we're here for the physique then it would make sense, imo, to make a distinction between facial and physique morphs. As long as the physique is real, do we really care about what she's doing to her face?
Because shrinking the dimensions of the head works the same as enlarging the muscles on the body. It changes proportions to look more dramatic, as if she had much larger and broader shoulders. It’s not about face smoothing.
Honesty, if we go deep in many girls lifes we see they do many estetic proceadures, face lift, botox, synthol, lipos….
I Belive from 10 to 20% of the girls in the site had at some Point some kind of digital manipulation to make they bigger, remove inperfections, faceshirink, remove streachmarks and celulite, filtres etc…
?and there is a vast majority of they, made a non digital manupulation, câmera Angles, lighting, aperture of Lens wich can make a person look bigger, even makeup…
What i mean is: there is no reality on most of pictures here, i can agree some girls go over the limit. But i Think is naive to Belive about realilty over here, at some Point what we see is not real, and that not take out their effort.
Bodybuiding is about aparence, and sometimes that became a obsession, some of they have bodydismofia, bigorexia, strugle with their own apearence, even they cant see how their bodies look like. nothin is 100% true.
if the majority of guys think we should go for more real content, Great, but i think the engagement of Eun hee kang shows the opposite. (sorry for the english)
I think it was Sunny Andrews(?) who morphed a competition photo and uploaded it to Instagram. Not only did she change her proportions, but in a two-shot with her competitor, she made the other lady's waist bigger!
I've seen so many comments in Reddit about how photoshopped pictures are evidence of body dysmorphia. It strikes me as more strongly connected to narcissism.
I said this on another board, but it's worth repeating
I half agree on the terms of deletion. I don't think she should be entirely removed, but either a warning tag on her images saying something like "This image has been morphed" or "This person may have morphed their images" (i may make a mock-up of this for demonstration)
or
Create a separate section in the forums away from the main page, like the trans women / fantasy boards.
I don't think it's fair for these athletes to get so much attention when they've faked their way to the top, and when others may not get the attention they truly deserve because of it