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Yeah, if I cared enough that I didn't want anyone seeing my private content, I wouldn't post it to begin with. But that's just me (and common sense).
Often times, it seems that it's less a case of regret, and more a case of a new relationship.
This is sadly a tale as old as time for sex workers:
1) Girl earns money doing some form of sex work
2) Guy purchases what she's selling and "falls in love" with her
3) Girl agrees to date him and they start a relationship
4) Guy becomes insanely jealous and demands that she stop selling herself to other men, even though that's exactly what she was doing when they first met.
Funny how that works. Not saying that this is the situation here, but it's sadly common. I've dated quite a few SW'ers in my time, and I always do it with the knowledge that this is their job, and it's not my place to try and possess them. I could simply date a woman who isn't a sex worker if that's a hangup.
Surprised no. But can you appreciate that she would be upset? Maybe you like to believe FBB are heartless, emotionless objects who don’t feel vulnerable.. but you are wrong. Put yourself in her shoes and see how it feels.
And it’s easy for any of you to say “oh well, she posted it..she knew the risk, it’s fair game…” how about standing up for someone instead . I for one will message any FBB when I see her content where it shouldn’t belong. I wish more people had the integrity and respect to protect the FBBs that we know and love.
> > Honestly I can't fathom how anyone can still be surprised that the stuff they shared on the internet got leaked. > > To be clear I'm not condoning sharing OF content. But the reality is, it's gonna happen.
It’s a fact of living in the modern world that anything posted on the internet will probably be pirated, but it doesn’t mean that the person who made it has to accept it with a smile. Natalia Kovaleva recently decided to reduce her instagram posting because of accounts that repost her stuff and has moved her flexing and posing to her OF. I know there will always be places like that other forum but it shouldn’t be open season for everyone. Show your support for the women you like!
Surprised no. But can you appreciate that she would be upset? Maybe you like to believe FBB are heartless, emotionless objects who don’t feel vulnerable.. but you are wrong. Put yourself in her shoes and see how it feels.
And it’s easy for any of you to say “oh well, she posted it..she knew the risk, it’s fair game…” how about standing up for someone instead . I for one will message any FBB when I see her content where it shouldn’t belong. I wish more people had the integrity and respect to protect the FBBs that we know and love.
That's true Scarlett, and I wish everyone felt that way. But it doesn't stop the fact that a small number of users are always going to "steal" and repost content elsewhere. I don't think anyone here feels like FBB's are "heartless, emotionless objects." What is being said here is more of a fair warning for FBB's who do want to consider the OF route, that their content will inevitably find its way into public domain. We at GWM do everything we can to prevent that from happening here, but I cannot guarantee it will not happen with other platforms (Tumblr, Reddit, Discord, etc.).
it's crazy how many women I've seen jump on OF lately. Not even competitive BBers, but just regular fit girls. Idk if they DO need the money, but it's honestly a no brainer if you have tens to HUNDREDS of thousands of followers on IG or TikTok and you think you can monetize the attention they're already giving you, especially if some of them are already offering you money.
past that its how comfortable you are.
one girl i saw took about 2 months before posting full nudes, which were then sent to her parents.
then there's Yelena Espinoza who for months was advertising topless video on her public IG.
MuscleGeisha posts nude shots on twitter--most times there is a censor bar, but a couple of posts have been bare chest, usually without her face or rest of her body.
It's a real grab bag. The risk is out there for sure.
one girl i saw took about 2 months before posting full nudes, which were then sent to her parents.
Geez. WHY do people do that shit
Geez. WHY do people do that shit
my guess?
revenge porn, people get off on that shit
if not to get off, then to get back at her (in general) for something, who knows.
just to be a dick in particular, maybe something truly misogynist.
Her account didn't last long. Maybe 3 months. idk if she knew if it was worth it but: she was charging $10/mo for subbing, and i scrolled through her posts and one had over 400 likes, so at least 400 people had subbed in that month: $4000. She also did a bit of a "fund raiser" to get to those nude posts--had to hit $1000 dollars to post them, and she filled it fast. So at least for that one month that I was there she made $5000. I didn't bother counting tips on posts, and who knows what people might have bought in the DMs (whether custom or PPV) or just straight up tipped her.
Pretty sure it paid for all the traveling she's been doing and also to help get her coaching biz off the ground.
Excuse my ignorance, but what's "revenge porn", exactly??
basically, say someone does something to you and you have a grudge against them. you wait for some juicy info to spill on them or do something to them that kind of makes the bottom fall out from under them or creates a lot of drama, and you are feeding off of the drama of their demise.
it's shitty, and real.
"Revenge porn" is usually posting "private" pics of someone after a breakup in the relationship that provided the pics (or videos). They might be straight topless or nude pics that we here might not think are terribly compromising but that the woman intended only for her (temporary, as it turns out) romantic partner and never wanted the whole world to see, or they might be of her spreading her legs, pulling her lips apart, etc., or even photos or videos of her engaged in intercourse taken a cell phone set up to do that and positioned properly. Women can engage in "revenge porn" too, if they've got the right material.
I'm wondering what "MAD" is (post by fp909).
"Revenge porn" is usually posting "private" pics of someone after a breakup in the relationship that provided the pics (or videos). They might be straight topless or nude pics that we here might not think are terribly compromising but that the woman intended only for her (temporary, as it turns out) romantic partner and never wanted the whole world to see, or they might be of her spreading her legs, pulling her lips apart, etc., or even photos or videos of her engaged in intercourse taken a cell phone set up to do that and positioned properly. Women can engage in "revenge porn" too, if they've got the right material.
I'm wondering what "MAD" is (post by fp909).
I think he means Mutually Assured Destruction
Her account didn't last long. Maybe 3 months. idk if she knew if it was worth it but: she was charging $10/mo for subbing, and i >scrolled through her posts and one had over 400 likes, so at least 400 people had subbed in that month: $4000.
But how much does OF take?
she was charging $10/mo for subbing, and i scrolled through her posts and one had over 400 likes, so at least 400 people had subbed in that month: $4000. She also did a bit of a "fund raiser" to get to those nude posts--had to hit $1000 dollars to post them, and she filled it fast. So at least for that one month that I was there she made $5000.
The pocket-watching in muscle fan circles is always a bit weird, but I get that some percentage of any fan forum is going to be just like the real world in that regard. That said, I'm not sure whether it's still the case, but people used to be able to like OF content without being a paid subscriber. I don't know anything about what the money or effort was like for that individual, but if your count is accurate, 400 paid members in a single month for a solo site is a very big number, especially in the current climate where there are so many OF options.
The pocket-watching in muscle fan circles is always a bit weird, but I get that some percentage of any fan forum is going to be just like the real world in that regard. That said, I'm not sure whether it's still the case, but people used to be able to like OF content without being a paid subscriber. I don't know anything about what the money or effort was like for that individual, but if your count is accurate, 400 paid members in a single month for a solo site is a very big number, especially in the current climate where there are so many OF options.
In this particular case I had gone back to look because she had posted something in a Q/A about dropping out of school (she was a freshman) to travel and pivot to coaching/change major later on. Maybe a little harder after college when you might have some debt but this early in the game is a little more viable. I only found out she had an OF becuase she messaged me to tell me about it after I had asked about customs a few months prior.
Basically I was interested in the translation from social media following to OF. We’ve seen a lot of women try and it doesn’t work out for them and they close it quickly because it wasn’t making them enough money. But if it was something this girl thought she could sustain for even 6 months, that’s more than she could earn working a job part time as a student.
Her account was totally locked up, and you needed to sub to seven see postings at all. Sometimes you do get a look at the feed even if the pics are blocked out though.
So, yeah, I’m just interested in if risk is worth the reward individually. I had a similar conversation with another creator after she pivoted to OF/Patreon from camming
But how much does OF take?
I’m told around 10%, which is in like with what Patreon takes. Patreon takes it straight away though. People sun to me for $10 but I receive around $9
It's a Cold War principle - "Mutually assured destruction". Essentially, you eff me, I eff you, we both lose.
The tea can only be spilled once, though.
I've heard of mutually assured destruction = MAD in connection with great-power strategies in international politics but never associated it with the petty crap under discussion here.
I’ve subscribed to Yelena Espinoza’s Onlyfans since Jan of this year. She has gone through several of iterations of content. Just as someone else mentioned she has changed it to be more PG, but she still does her famous pec bouncing only with nipple covers now. I like the new variety of content she has, she seems to love posing in tights and her quads look amazing. She recently posted a video where she was benching 255. She is super strong. I still think her page is well worth the subscription price. An added plus she takes time out of her busy schedule to chat with us fans.
But how desperate is she for subs that some iteration of this message gets posted every week?
I’ve subscribed to Yelena Espinoza’s Onlyfans since Jan of this year. She has gone through several of iterations of content. Just as someone else mentioned she has changed it to be more PG, but she still does her famous pec bouncing only with nipple covers now. I like the new variety of content she has, she seems to love posing in tights and her quads look amazing. She recently posted a video where she was benching 255. She is super strong. I still think her page is well worth the subscription price. An added plus she takes time out of her busy schedule to chat with us fans.
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If it's PG then it's 100% not worth the subscription. Why even bother? Complete waste of money.
The other solution is basically require people to show their face if they are asking for it.
The threat of MAD if the guy shares his stuff and she knows his name, email address and can probably find social media could be deterrent enough from sharing.
When I buy I do it thru my personal account. I’m not hiding. But j know that if I went back on my word not to share it would be very easy to find me and my employer and start sending emails that could ruin me