Did anyone mention Tina Lockwood in this discussion? She was HUGE all over before she was twenty...
She was a beast indeed
We have to add [Paula Ranta(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/?name=...) 22 y/o
> I myself don't understand that because muscular women turn me on whether they get their physiques naturally or not, but I feel like there is a fantasy that their favorite model got their body just with hard work, and that using PEDs is "cheating" and ruins the fantasy.
Those who are generally not that much aware of the existence and prevalence of PEDs may assume that all women are natural except when there are clear signs of PED usage. Such as a low, deep voice, facial hair, large jaw and such. The fantasy is that no matter how large the muscles are, as long as she doesn't have any of these unintended and clearly masculine features on top, she is as good as natural.
For some it is not that those make her a man but an ugly woman.
At the same time what you say sounds true to me. Becoming aware of the prevalence of PEDs ruins it.
I know it is scarcely possible but I would be mildly interested in having a section or a thread dedicated to guaranteed natural women. No PEDs mandatory, no artificial boobs preferable. What makes this extremely hard is that the most interesting cases are also the hardest to classify. On the other hand, some of the women had a time when they clearly had not used any yet.
So essentially a thread that would have zero entries on this site. Gatsby summed it up. Let's be frank. Every woman on this site runs some variation of a cycle. be it simple Var to more compounds. But tbat will burst the bubble of some folks....
Haley McNeff, also made this video here:
What happened to Hayley exactly? All I know is that her significant other was an absolute monster and a control freak and she quit bodybuilding because of it.
I thought she quit?