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Less entitlement and more “this is an exchange and if I don’t feel like it’s worth it I’m not paying”
Or in many cases
“We agreed on x for abc. But you only did ab. So I expect c. Because you said you would do it and I paid for all three”
Not surprised to see I'm not the only person who's had a bad experience with Carolyne and feeling a little vindicated in my opinion towards her. I've ordered customs from tons of women and barely had an issue with any of them, Carolyne has by far the worst attitude of anyone I've ever dealt with in this field. Completely and utterly self-absorbed and zero respect for any potential customers.
Not surprised to see I'm not the only person who's had a bad experience with Carolyne and feeling a little vindicated in my opinion towards her. I've ordered customs from tons of women and barely had an issue with any of them, Carolyne has by far the worst attitude of anyone I've ever dealt with in this field. Completely and utterly self-absorbed and zero respect for any potential customers.
She's an arrogant, humorless, useless person. And a fake natty to boot.
But there is a large spectrum personalities on OF. One side you have Carolyne, but on the other there are women like Emily Schubert who is an absolute sweetheart when you get to know her.
Emily is amazing, but expensive. But she was very down to do my topless requests and did them fast when I asked.
Let me recap a basic thing.
OF is the biggest scam thing ever, you're burning your money buying an illusion.
You'll think you'll might be somehow a little special for the girls you're showing support but they are just poker face Queens. They'll let you believe it but the real truth is that they just consider you a looser, and as much as they charge you as much they are disrespectful toward you and your big money flying into their pocket.
If you are missing this concept, I'm sorry for you, you need to come back on earth. If you tell me you're aware you're spending your money for pure pleasure and entertainment, I'm 100% ok with it.
Said that, I'm not against OF, is legit, if girls can find people willing to spend so much money... They won.
Some girls are doing a fair business on OF, with fair treats and prices, but I guess it's a very small number on them.
You can spend your money the way you want, not judging, but please don't buy the idea that you're going to be special for them, as much as you spend on them, as more they'll smile at you and disrespect you, you're gonna be just a weak shmole sub to steal money from.
Straight talk, you're welcome.
LOL, hello Jordan Petersen.. I didn't realize that you were so active on the forum!
I wonder if your overall attitude is why they might consider you a "looser." You think that might be a contributing factor?
oh, don’t get me wrong, they couldn’t give less of a shit about the people paying compliments to them, but you know they still love reading them because it boosts their ego and self worth. if you give them enough compliments they may humor you a bit thinking that you’re an easy target to get money off of in exchange for nothing. transactional relationships are the only thing that’s real 99% of the time imo. their content for your cash, that’s the healthiest way of going about it. if you expect a friendship(asking them how their day went, blah blah blah) you are fooling yourself. >
Women on social media get an unlimited amount of attention from men. They dont really want it unless you're really handsome or rich and willing to pay them.
I don't know if I'd say it as strongly as "they couldn't give less of a shit," but I'd agree overall. For the vast majority of these muscle girls, it's a transactional relationship. And if you're not supporting them financially, then they probably don't care about you.
And... it's kind of like that for anyone selling a service on Instagram. It's how business works. If there's a doctor hawking some kind of skincare treatment, she's probably only concerned if you're looking to buy it from her. I can't imagine that you can text her "HEY" or "OMG you are so sexy, you're like my dream woman," and she'll write back wanting to know more or possibly meet you for dinner. You're either a customer or you're not.
The mistake is that dudes see these FBB girls and think that these are lonely, single women who are posting 8,000 pics and running multiple subscription services *because they just haven't met a really great guy. *
LOL, hello Jordan Petersen.. I didn't realize that you were so active on the forum!
I wonder if your overall attitude is why they might consider you a "looser." You think that might be a contributing factor?
Hey shmole, you recognized me...jeez 🙈 Read it again, then again, and then again again, maybe you'll get the 10% of what I wrote 😘😘😘
Hey shmole, you recognized me...jeez 🙈 Read it again, then again, and then again again, maybe you'll get the 10% of what I wrote 😘😘😘
Ooooh yes I love that retort!! You forgot to add....
"YOur not VeRy smart r u.... tRY and keep UP!"
Although it's true, I pretty much thought you were going to be entirely incorrect after the very first line:
OF is the biggest scam thing ever, you're burning your money buying an illusion.
What exactly is the illusion? Girls are making photos and videos. You're paying for access to them. That's pretty straightforward to me. Some girls are better at content creation, some have more competitive pricing, but they all have the same basic setup. If you like pics and videos and chatting with muscle women, it's a platform where you can do that. How exactly is this a scam?
Emily is amazing, but expensive. But she was very down to do my topless requests and did them fast when I asked.
I've bookmarked her. May consider signing up! Anyone who gets a great review I feel should be worth it but I refuse to give it to some entitled asshole that's doing shady transactions.
So, in news that no one actually ever saw coming, Emma Hartley just opened up an OF. Yeah...seems the new bf is making her do wild things.
The zinger? She's charging $45 for it lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Ooooh yes I love that retort!! You forgot to add....
"YOur not VeRy smart r u.... tRY and keep UP!"
Although it's true, I pretty much thought you were going to be entirely incorrect after the very first line:
OF is the biggest scam thing ever, you're burning your money buying an illusion.
What exactly is the illusion? Girls are making photos and videos. You're paying for access to them. That's pretty straightforward to me. Some girls are better at content creation, some have more competitive pricing, but they all have the same basic setup. If you like pics and videos and chatting with muscle women, it's a platform where you can do that. How exactly is this a scam?
Making myself serious now.
Indeed OF, as the platform itself is more than legit, I was clearly provocative calling it scam. I was referring to the attitude some girls are having there.
I'm completely fine with people spending their money entertaining themselves having a treat on OF.
And I agree with you - if you are aware about the deal, paying to watch content - things are pretty easy.
My provocative statement was a sort of warning (or call it "rant" if you like) toward those guys who are going to spend hundred dollars thinking that they'll earn some special attentions from the girls, to the point their fantasy will lead them believing they'll might be able to date them one day. That's the illusion I'm talking about.
Some girls are sending DM, making you think they care about your friendship, claiming they are single (while in most cases they are not and you can easily check on other socials), selling you the illusion they might be "reachable".
I'm old enough to almost ignore OF stuff and take it very easy, but some guys, especially youngest generations, might buy the illusion, throwing away tons of money.
You can tell me, who cares, being smart is just up to you. Correct. But I simply took the freedom to write my 2 cents, yes, in a provocative way.
I hope this clarified the meaning of my post.
Making myself serious now.
Indeed OF, as the platform itself is more than legit, I was clearly provocative calling it scam. I was referring to the attitude some girls are having there.
I'm completely fine with people spending their money entertaining themselves having a treat on OF.
And I agree with you - if you are aware about the deal, paying to watch content - things are pretty easy.
My provocative statement was a sort of warning (or call it "rant" if you like) toward those guys who are going to spend hundred dollars thinking that they'll earn some special attentions from the girls, to the point their fantasy will lead them believing they'll might be able to date them one day. That's the illusion I'm talking about.
Some girls are sending DM, making you think they care about your friendship, claiming they are single (while in most cases they are not and you can easily check on other socials), selling you the illusion they might be "reachable".
I'm old enough to almost ignore OF stuff and take it very easy, but some guys, especially youngest generations, might buy the illusion, throwing away tons of money.
You can tell me, who cares, being smart is just up to you. Correct. But I simply took the freedom to write my 2 cents, yes, in a provocative way.
I hope this clarified the meaning of my post.
Just talk straight. Anything else is tedious.
My provocative statement was a sort of warning (or call it "rant" if you like) toward those guys who are going to spend hundred dollars thinking that they'll earn some special attentions from the girls, to the point their fantasy will lead them believing they'll might be able to date them one day. That's the illusion I'm talking about.
Some girls are sending DM, making you think they care about your friendship, claiming they are single (while in most cases they are not and you can easily check on other socials), selling you the illusion they might be "reachable".
I'm old enough to almost ignore OF stuff and take it very easy, but some guys, especially youngest generations, might buy the illusion, throwing away tons of money.
You can tell me, who cares, being smart is just up to you. Correct. But I simply took the freedom to write my 2 cents, yes, in a provocative way.
I hope this clarified the meaning of my post.
Ah okay, yeah I'd actually totally agree with that.
Sorry - I sometimes get really annoyed at the entitlement in our community around content. Guys are just upset that these models have subscription pages and require some kind of transaction to interact with them.
I view it the same as you: this is a business and a livelihood, and we're just the customers for the pics, videos, and fantasies that they're selling. That's definitely how I approach it.
Ah okay, yeah I'd actually totally agree with that.
Sorry - I sometimes get really annoyed at the entitlement in our community around content. Guys are just upset that these models have subscription pages and require some kind of transaction to interact with them.
I view it the same as you: this is a business and a livelihood, and we're just the customers for the pics, videos, and fantasies that they're selling. That's definitely how I approach it.
Exactly, glad you gotcha!
Ah okay, yeah I'd actually totally agree with that.
Sorry - I sometimes get really annoyed at the entitlement in our community around content. Guys are just upset that these models have subscription pages and require some kind of transaction to interact with them.
I view it the same as you: this is a business and a livelihood, and we're just the customers for the pics, videos, and fantasies that they're selling. That's definitely how I approach it.
Who is being entitled here? There's no way I'm paying $200 for a 60 second video lol. I've got better things to spend my money on.
Who is being entitled here? There's no way I'm paying $200 for a 60 second video lol. I've got better things to spend my money on.
I never have. I'll got to $10 or maybe $15 a minute maximum.
The entitlement that I see are guys who are angry that women don't chat and interact with them for free. They're super upset when girls say "you can only message me on OnlyFans." To be fair, I see way more of that behavior on Instagram than here.
I never have. I'll got to $10 or maybe $15 a minute maximum.
The entitlement that I see are guys who are angry that women don't chat and interact with them for free. They're super upset when girls say "you can only message me on OnlyFans." To be fair, I see way more of that behavior on Instagram than here.
I'm only upset with this when they don't actually respond on OF. If you want to do sales there and interactions there, that's totally fine. But don't push me there, require me to pay a fee to sign up to message, and then ignore it.
^^ Totally agree ^^
I really resent the whole "you need to tip me for every message" thing.
I follow a few models who only respond once a day or every other day to untipped messages. And they need tips to do more sexual or fantasy talk. I'm totally fine with that. I tend to tip regularly anyway. But it's really shitty when you pay a subscription fee and then she's expecting you to pay for each and every message that you send. That's an immediate unsub for me.
I never have. I'll got to $10 or maybe $15 a minute maximum.
The entitlement that I see are guys who are angry that women don't chat and interact with them for free. They're super upset when girls say "you can only message me on OnlyFans." To be fair, I see way more of that behavior on Instagram than here.
Oh I see. Yeah in that case I agree in that some people are entitled to getting attention for free which is silly.
you are supposed to tip to send messages? i’m not tipping anyone to type a sentence while relaxing on their phones.
Sending a tip with your message supposedly prioritizes that message so that she sees it over all the other non-tippers. Most of the women I've talked to don't require that, but I guess it helps if they are being messaged by 100's of people.
Sending a tip with your message supposedly prioritizes that message so that she sees it over all the other non-tippers. Most of the women I've talked to don't require that, but I guess it helps if they are being messaged by 100's of people.
correct. i more meant that if i'm not signed up for their OF, and they point me in the direction of their OF if i want to buy a custom, I now have to pay the sub fee to message them, because otherwise the DMs are closed. Like, we're talking right now in your IG DMs, let's cut out the extra step. If you really want the sub fee i'll hike up another 7 bucks lol
oh, don’t get me wrong, they couldn’t give less of a shit about the people paying compliments to them, but you know they still love reading them because it boosts their ego and self worth. if you give them enough compliments they may humor you a bit thinking that you’re an easy target to get money off of in exchange for nothing. transactional relationships are the only thing that’s real 99% of the time imo. their content for your cash, that’s the healthiest way of going about it. if you expect a friendship(asking them how their day went, blah blah blah) you are fooling yourself. >