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How big can a steroid free fbb be?

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Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

https://youtu.be/rJTb9KOcw7M

Carolyne Marquez claiming she doesn't take steroids. You be the judge.

Well I'm convinced. She just dreamed about her body 8 years ago.

You don't need drugs when you have dreams!

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

Carolyne Marquez states that she takes SARMS which are technically not steroids... though I think for context in this manner of discussion, I'd say sarms fall in the spirit of steroids in which that they can help with muscle growth.

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

https://youtu.be/rJTb9KOcw7M

Carolyne Marquez claiming she doesn't take steroids. You be the judge.

Hahahahahahahahaha. Yeah, sure.

Also, that channel is full of fake natty bullshit.

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

I dunno why people go 'round and 'round with this horseshit. Coaches and competitors have said everyone is on gear. There are men and women in gyms who are recreational PED users. They're not trying to win a trophy or become an influencer, and they're doping. The genetically blessed in this industry are more likely to dope for the same reason LeBron James practices basketball more than I do: People generally commit to what they're good at.

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

There are some anabolic steroid alternatives.

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

Who is this?

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

Jessica Buettner is in a heavily drug tested federation and I’d still say she’s in incredible shape. It’s very ignorant and unintelligent to say woman can’t get big without PEDs, genetics play a bigger role though. I do however think Jess is a good example of being close to the limit of what can be achieved naturally however, and of course there’s plenty of woman who lie about it. That doesn’t mean there’s not still some natural woman in amazing shape

Jessica Buettner is very genetically blessed and is a hard worker, but I still think she is, or has been, on PEDs. If you’re in the top division of any strength sport, you’re going to need drugs, and no amount of hard work and training can compete with that.

Also, while she is in the drug tested federation, don’t forget that Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones have never failed a drug test. Those tests are easy to beat if you know what you’re doing, and most PEDs aren’t detectable for long in the body.

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Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

Drug tests are tests of intelligence and planning. It's very hard to fuck one up, which is why it's kind of hilarious when people do get popped. Most of the people getting tested KNOW when they're getting tested, or when tests might happen. If you are paying attention to a schedule and when events are you will avoid it.

Jul 14, 2021 - permalink

blood test gives the clue what they have been using. Natural bodybuilding is always tested.

Jul 15, 2021 - permalink

Who is this?

Tanya Trombly

Jul 19, 2021 - permalink

i remember cynthia welden, did natural bodybuilding shows, powerlifted, was tested and claimed natural..though very impressive, i do believe what she says. imo a few women (very few) women are capable of getting fairly big naturally, speaking of bodybuilding. it's just the size (to a certain limit) and crazy definition combo that makes certain a female bber is not natty

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Jul 19, 2021 - permalink

I do believe those low-funded tests of "natural" bodybuilding can't be trusted. They are perhaps to discourage a high level of substance abuse, but in no way free of PED. Even at the Olympics athletes use PEDs and it is more a game of not get caught than 100% free PED all the time.

Even if they want bodybuilding competition doesn't have the money like the IOC.

Jul 20, 2021 - permalink

I do believe those low-funded tests of "natural" bodybuilding can't be trusted. They are perhaps to discourage a high level of substance abuse, but in no way free of PED. Even at the Olympics athletes use PEDs and it is more a game of not get caught than 100% free PED all the time.

Even if they want bodybuilding competition doesn't have the money like the IOC.

I know some "natural" comps simply have a questionare and usually only test the winners.

Jul 20, 2021 - permalink

https://youtu.be/rJTb9KOcw7M

Carolyne Marquez claiming she doesn't take steroids. You be the judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_nIpklcfhs

Jul 20, 2021 - permalink

Questionnaire lol

Did you use roids choose one

A) YES B) NO C) A LITTLE

Jul 20, 2021 - permalink

Questionnaire lol

Did you use roids choose one

A) YES B) NO C) A LITTLE

B) NO

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

I think Autumn Ivy is a good example of what a muscular build without steroids would look like. No idea if she is on anything, but I think her physique is very achievable as a natty https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/1559934/

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

I think Autumn Ivy is a good example of what a muscular build without steroids would look like. No idea if she is on anything, but I think her physique is very achievable as a natty https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/1559934/

She sure is. Maybe MB also is natty, but who knows.

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

She sure is. Maybe MB also is natty, but who knows.

Who is MB?

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

> Kristy Hawkins back when she was bodybuilding.

Come on man 🤦‍♂️

Okay so, no voice change. No acne. No other obvious signs of use. She's nuts, sure. That's why she never got unbelievably huge. I've seen a lot of girls over the years and she seems the type (given what she's up to now) to not use. Crazy + gym = her size (when bodybuilding).

cgsweat
Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

That's why she never got unbelievably huge.

So in your mind she was "believably huge" from a natty standpoint.

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

Okay so, no voice change. No acne. No other obvious signs of use. She's nuts, sure. That's why she never got unbelievably huge. I've seen a lot of girls over the years and she seems the type (given what she's up to now) to not use. Crazy + gym = her size (when bodybuilding).

You have to be joking right, Kristy Hawkins 🤨 Kristy Hawkins?

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

To think kristy hawkins was natural jus proves how clueless someone can be. 😅

Jul 21, 2021 - permalink

This thread is gold. LMAO.

The bikini girls talk backstage about their PED use, FFS.

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