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Thanks for the effortpost.
The general heuristic to these is that it's kind of best-effort. We'll try to fulfill the request if it's reasonable, but there's no guarantee we'll get it right, short of blacklisting.
Some women want a stage name to be used. But there's currently no way to know which women want what stage name.
We should list them under whichever name they are best known under, and under which it is easier to find more content of them. This is usually their real name, but it could be an instagram handle instead.
Vladislava Galagan is apparently an example, since she uses her full name on IG.
It's funny you use her as an example because back when her pics started first being posted here, she sent an email requesting her real name not be used. I tried to enforce this somewhat by mass-editing the name on her pics and locking the name field, but the cat was out of the bag and she soon started going by her real name on the content she was producing. When I saw that, I dropped the obfuscation of her name here as well.
Since women compete under their real names it is very rare to have someone who is both well-known under a pseudonym and whose real name is not known. I am struggling to remember even a single case where such a person wanted us to go to great lengths to hide their real name short of complete removal; I think most people realize that past a certain point their real name is no longer secret.
- Removal of only specific pictures.
Some women have been nice enough to allow their content to stay, sans specific pictures. Question is, how are we supposed to know which pictures are banned?
We can't know; in this case it is up to the person in question to send takedown emails.
- Stage names on risqué pictures only.
Apparently this is a thing. Shannon Courtney supposedly wanted people using her stage name only on her wrestling pictures. Danielle Mastromatteo used "Serena Scorn" for similar reasons, though apparently doesn't use it anymore. I just have no idea how we can be expected to abide by this.
This is not something that would be feasible to enforce on GWM. I could lock the name field on some specific pictures if requested but I would make no guarantees about the name on future uploads.
I assume some models have asked Chainer for private pictures (e.g. FB) to be banned, but IG pictures to stay.
I don't think this has ever happened.
- High res/watermarks.
It has been requested before that non-watermarked versions of pictures (which exist WITHOUT photoshopping them off, because they were released that way), or the highest resolution version not be posted. Same issue as with picture-only bans.
If an official version of a picture exists with the watermark off, that should be fine to post.
Ah, honestly those are exactly the answers I expected. These are knotty issues after all. As for hiding real names, we have MzDevious (real name is pretty well known, she got angry when it started being used here, now it seems moderation is enforcing use of MzDevious), Blu_j88 (Real name also pretty well known, but apparently use of that pseudonym is required), Sinner Muscles (I believe you left comments strictly warning people not to use her name, though she later asked to be added to the blacklist).
Stage names were admittedly most common 7-8 years ago or so, and are becoming less and less used by the day. The IG fitness boom has apparently made people realize that no, female physique/bodybuilding is NOT porn. Still, I see the occasional model use a stage name.
A lot of women on Instagram are strangely either removing their full names, or going by a shortened version, even though their full names are well known. E.g. Skyler Kinsman, vs Sky Kinsman. I think it's to make their profile more informal, so it doesn't read like a dossier. Still, even in 2021 some people don't understand how the internet works.
Edit: Oh, one thing, when I was talking about banned picture, I meant how are we as a community supposed to know which are banned? If someone sends a takedown email, but doesn't ask to be blacklisted, then only the staff will know which pictures are banned. Nothing would stop the community from reuploading the pictures since banned pictures cannot be looked up, unlike banned names.
Well, I suppose all we can do is try our best to be accommodating.
Oh, one thing, when I was talking about banned picture, I meant how are we as a community supposed to know which are banned? If someone sends a takedown email, but doesn't ask to be blacklisted, then only the staff will know which pictures are banned. Nothing would stop the community from reuploading the pictures since banned pictures cannot be looked up, unlike banned names.
Typically in cases where a model asks for specific pictures to be deleted, they are more private ones (ripped from Onlyfans for example (which means it shouldn't have been uploaded in the first place)), rather than ones posted on their public Instagram. In this case it's unlikely other users will reupload the same picture since it was somewhat obscure. Of course it would be bad for the original uploader to reupload it, and if they did I would hold it against them, but this isn't too different from any other deleted picture.
It's cut and dry to respect the wishes of women who don't want to have their content here. We can easily check if someone is blacklisted, and even if someone accidentally uploads content on the blacklist, such photos get flagged for review/deletion immediately.
My question is, how are we as community members supposed to respect other requests?
Some women want a stage name to be used. But there's currently no way to know which women want what stage name. No warning is given if someone tags a photo with their real name, or uploads with the real name. Also, not all women necessarily want a stage name used for anonymity - some do it to control their search results. Vladislava Galagan is apparently an example, since she uses her full name on IG. So it's not clear whether posting their real name in comments is allowed/disallowed. Especially if their full name is their social media handle.
A corollary - some blacklisted models persist on this site under stage names. Some women (Sinner Muscles/Paula Chihaia) have both a stage name and their real name on the list, but others don't (Venus/Hope Parr).
Sinner muscles actually only has "Sinner" blacklisted too, apparently because you cannot feasibly blacklist "muscles" for obvious reasons. This already highlights limitations of the current systems.
Some women have been nice enough to allow their content to stay, sans specific pictures. Question is, how are we supposed to know which pictures are banned? Apparently Shannon Seeley asked for skimpy pictures to be deleted, but otherwise is allowing everything else to stay. In her case, what even constitutes forbidden pictures of her?
Apparently this is a thing. Shannon Courtney supposedly wanted people using her stage name only on her wrestling pictures. Danielle Mastromatteo used "Serena Scorn" for similar reasons, though apparently doesn't use it anymore. I just have no idea how we can be expected to abide by this.
If someone asks for certain information not to be posted (e.g. their stage name for porn, social media, anything else) it's not really feasible to ensure this is properly respected. I assume Chainer flat out says this, and instead offers addition to the blacklist as a more practical alternative, but I have seen instances where models apparently don't accept this, forcing manual intervention by mods if forbidden topics come up.
I have seen people complain (on Reddit, not GWM) about their IG pictures from their private profiles being posted elsewhere. I assume some models have asked Chainer for private pictures (e.g. FB) to be banned, but IG pictures to stay.
Here's the problem. 99% of people in general are horrible at staying consistent with their privacy settings. Many models with private IG profiles make it public at some point, and vice versa.
I scrape IG profiles, and for the ones that are private more than 50% of the time, on average are public for 61 days per year! Yes, that's right. Even people who want to keep their profiles private on average still permit public viewing 15% of the time!
So I really have no idea how to respect this one.
It has been requested before that non-watermarked versions of pictures (which exist WITHOUT photoshopping them off, because they were released that way), or the highest resolution version not be posted. Same issue as with picture-only bans.
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Anyway, I write this just to ask, what can we do to better respect these kinds of requests?
Personally, I'd rather a model just ask to be blacklisted instead of burdening the community with unenforceable nonsense, but I know others disagree.
Edit: Holy formatting nightmare.