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[Suggestion] Penalty for uploads without names

Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

I gotta admit I have on ocasion uploaded without a name, I wasn't aware it pissed people so much :( Now I feel guity...

Jan 22, 2021 - edited Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

All right, everyone shut up, we should have a penalty for unnamed photos like Inagine said, and that's final. Its not fair for us to not know who the girl is. Ive said many time before on many images, if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!

Damn, why are you so hostile dude? Why do you even want the name so bad? To stalk them? I won't be part of the creep show

And... Not fair? In what sense? Do these people owe you something? For someone with no material shared, that's some mighty high thinking right there. You should try the process of uploading stuff, tagging them, and trying to name them. The content on the site is free and they probably don't have people to do that stuff for us so they rely on the community. Be grateful that people are even bothering to search for content and upload them here

Jan 22, 2021 - permalink
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Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

I don't think penalties for nameless uploads would be a good idea as that would reduce the amount of uploads on this site

Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

Is this kindergarden? I get it you like your picture with names, but sometimes its hard or time consuming to tag a name to a photo.

On the flip side, you rather have lots of content, where you can do your own reseach to find a name OR punish contributor because they haven't included names, and thin down the pool of content.

I know I prefer the former option.

Yes, it is time consuming to add a name but quite often it's just laziness. Especially in tempp's case. He'll down load a group of 3 or 4 pics of a girl and maybe name one, and not name the others or give only the first name. It pisses me off because he's got privileges to post unlimited unlike the rest of us.

I used to go in and add the full names for his posts, so the great file system that was created works and a girls pictures stay together. Then I found out his privileges and said "F" this I'm not doing his work. I have a ton of pictures to upload and have much of what he's uploaded... only difference is if I got to upload it before tempp, they would have been named.

Also I've been messaged many times by guys asking to upload more of a girl I recently uploaded, but with limited uploads I can't do that, but that is why I makes sure I give you all a name, because if you're really Jonesing for more of a girl, you can at least try to track her pics down yourself on the web.

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Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

I know that there are other opinions in the world but we here in Europe belive in the right to remain anonymous. In fact it is written down in chapter 8 of the European Charta of fundamental rights. Giving your name is always voluntary. And you can‘t exclude anyone simply because she doesn‘t want her name to be known.

Besides these legal thoughts it would be a pity to loose all the pretty, often neither roided nor photoshopped girls who want to stay anonymous...

Imagine
Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

Wow, this really blew up.

First of all: Maybe the word "penalty" was a bit harsh or you only read the title. I don't want to imprison you if you upload one image without a name, nor do I want to permanently ban your account, nor do I want you to lose all of your direct uploads. And more important, you wouldn't be punished right after uploading but rather several hours later if still nobody (you or someone else) named your image. If you actually don't know the name, then it's still possible that someone else names your image for you, but if you already pissed off some users and they don't want to help you out, then you should give a name next time (Again: IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NAME AND YOU'RE JUST TOO LAZY TO DO IT BY YOURSELF).

I will address some points:

I feel it's not good to punish people providing work for free for the website.

You already get punished for duplicate uploads. It's not just that your image is merged into another one, you also lose one direct upload and this is just fair. Yes, we are doing this in our free time, but please don't just throw everything you can find on GWM without checking if this image may be uploaded already. This is pure laziness because others have to clean up your stuff by reporting it. Obviously, I don't want you to look through dozens of pages of a single woman to look for duplicates, but if you upload a recent image from Instagram then there's a high chance of a duplicate.

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Not everybody who comes to this site can recognise every single athlete, bodybuilder, figure/fitness model etc in the world, let alone know them all by name

It's not about naming images from other users. It's about naming your own uploads if you know the name, because you just downloaded it from their Instagram page.

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Sometimes it's too tedious to tag name. [...] use my phone to upload directly [...]

Agree, on phones it may be tedious. Maybe you can suggest a new design that will motivate you a bit more ;) CC: @Chainer

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What would prevent people from adding any name, no matter if it is correct, in order to avoid being penalized?

This is simply bad behaviour. If you already take the time to select the fields and put random characters in there then you can just give the damn name. Again, I don't want to kill you, you'll only lose one direct upload (of your 5 to 7) if you play this stupid game - this hurts nobody. On the other hand there's currently no system to vote on names (theres another thread about a possible new tag system which could work similar) so how do you want to reward users who give correct names, if there's no validation? At the moment (!) it's more feasible to "punish" those who just don't give a name.

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if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!

I like that you're likeminded, but I don't want people to be discouraged! If you don't know the name you should still upload it, but if you're too lazy then you should accept to lose one direct upload. Just like how it's done with dupliactes.

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What should be discouraged is not entering the name if you know it.

What seems undesirable to me is a habit of constantly uploading photos with no names without making the effort to add names.

Amen. This is exactly what I wanted to express.

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I gotta admit I have on ocasion uploaded without a name, I wasn't aware it pissed people so much :( Now I feel guity...

Please, don't feel guilty and don't stop uploading! (Btw, you have great uploads) This "penalty" focuses more on very active uploaders and not users you upload once in a while - the latter wouldn't even notice it if one direct upload is missing.

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Yes, it is time consuming to add a name but quite often it's just laziness. Especially in tempp's case. [...] It pisses me off because he's got privileges to post unlimited unlike the rest of us.

I used to go in and add the full names for his posts, so the great file system that was created works and a girls pictures stay together. Then I found out his privileges and said "F" this I'm not doing his work. [...]

[...] that is why I makes sure I give you all a name, because if you're really Jonesing for more of a girl, you can at least try to track her pics down yourself on the web.

10/10, absolutely agree.

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Giving your name is always voluntary. And you can‘t exclude anyone simply because she doesn‘t want her name to be known.

Are there cases where this is true? How would you even handle this? If someone gives the name then you delete it every time? And in case of a self-upload you can use your username (which is hopefully anonymous, if you want your images to be anonymous. Otherwise it would defeat the purpose).

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Wtf is the big deal if the photo has a name or not? Penalty for not naming the pic? Lmao thats so Corny go sit at the kiddie table cry babies

A hit dog will holler. May I ask where you have your uploaded images from?

qaz
Jan 22, 2021 - permalink
Maybe the solution is to reward entering correct names on any pics, not just your own uploads.

I agree with this. Maybe more direct uploads as a reward?

This could also reward users who like to add names as a housekeeping activity (assuming a few folks do this).

This is a good idea. But it should be a way to avoid people from renaming pictures with wrong names just to get bonuses.

Personally I find the names useful. If I want to look at one specific model on the site, how am I supposed to do that?

Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

Thanks to the people who upload, providing the pix i love. i dont have the time or expertise to do it. i don't want to see uploaders penalized for Not providing a name, but a reward for people who do provide a name, that i think is best. One thing, IF she is Ms. Olympia or some such could there be a line for that, too.? i am a big fan of this site, the ladies, the photographers, uploaders,and schmucks who make this a great place for people who love the female form.

tamarok
Jan 22, 2021 - permalink

This is a good idea. But it should be a way to avoid people from renaming pictures with wrong names just to get bonuses.

Personally I find the names useful. If I want to look at one specific model on the site, how am I supposed to do that?

Given that people will game the system, I agree that any incentive must be created with that as a concern. I'd rather have no signal when it comes to a name, than noise because people are just putting in random names.

Maybe do something else: if a favourite uploader starts adding names, when they didn't previously, then PM them and say thank you. Sometimes the human touch is better than any algorithm.

Jan 23, 2021 - permalink

Maybe do something else: if a favourite uploader starts adding names, when they didn't previously, then PM them and say thank you. Sometimes the human touch is better than any algorithm.

How does "Thank you for not being a lazy son if a B" sound?? lmao Why even have a place to add names if it's not gonna be used and used correctly, like the sloth that will upload a few of a particular girl, name one and not name the rest or just put the first name in... that's lazy... I mean how hard is it to copy and paste from one to all the others??

Jan 23, 2021 - edited Jan 23, 2021 - permalink
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Jan 23, 2021 - permalink

How does "Thank you for not being a lazy son if a B" sound?? lmao Why even have a place to add names if it's not gonna be used and used correctly, like the sloth that will upload a few of a particular girl, name one and not name the rest or just put the first name in... that's lazy... I mean how hard is it to copy and paste from one to all the others??

Why not do it yourself? We can see the uploads of other users and anyone can edit tags and names anyway. Not everyone has the time to edit every single one of those pics.

But seeing that you have over 71,000 uploads and named all of them you must have a lot of time and you might be able to do it for the site

If there is a name on a single picture and others don't but you can identify the girl as the same with the named one then I believe YOU can do it yourself.

I mean how hard is it to copy and paste from one to all the others??

Imagine
Jan 23, 2021 - permalink

Why not do it yourself? [...] Not everyone has the time to edit every single one of those pics.

[...] you must have a lot of time and you might be able to do it for the site

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I mean how hard is it to copy and paste from one to all the others??

Sorry, but this argument is stupid. Should we, the active uploaders, also just stop uploading images, because it's not hard for you to copy and paste image URLs into the upload form? Of course someone else could edit the image but this happens with a lot more of overhead in comparison to the naming method after uploading a bunch of images. After uploading you get to a screen where you see all the thumbnails and text fields and it's really not that hard to copy and paste, but this is only the case if you are the uploader. If I edit someone elses uploads, I have to click "Edit", paste in the name, click "Save" and open the next image - this is a lot more work than naming them directly after uploading them.

I'm glad if I can help out with names, however, I have my own "blacklist" with lazy users and I'll not edit their images anymore, although I know the name.

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Jan 23, 2021 - permalink
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Jan 23, 2021 - permalink

Somebody complained about Tempp. Hey, when one uploads over 216,000 items to this site as Tempp has done, then you can complain. Personally, I don't mind adding the first name on his uploads, when I have time.

Granted, I've uploaded just a few more than 800 pictures since I figured out how to do it in Feb., 2018, and just a couple without names. Now, if I don't have a name, I don't upload it. Period. For that reason, I don't look for pictures on Tumblr as those often aren't identified.

Imagine wrote: "I have my own 'blacklist' with lazy users and I'll not edit their images anymore although I know the name."

I second that emotion. There are several long time uploaders who just can't be bothered to include a name even when it's obvious. I've stopped edits and I've also stopped scoring their pictures.

Jan 23, 2021 - permalink

What a bad idea. Oops, I misspelled "stupid".

The obsessed or even casual stalkers are the main reason girls contact the site and say "remove me".

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Jan 23, 2021 - permalink
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Jan 26, 2021 - edited Jan 27, 2021 - permalink

I am not sure if someone has pointed this out yet, but I would like to bring up three points:

1) I agree that dumping large quantities of nameless content is annoying especially when the name is easy to find.

2) I have noticed there is some content where a name appears truly difficult to obtain (as in the person is not a known fitness model/social media star) and it may have been found somewhere random on the internet - and from what I've seen these nameless, "one-off" posts still very much belong on GWM.

3) I will be happy to keep a lookout and provide a name on posts where/when I can.

Jan 27, 2021 - permalink

So you can look her up and see more pics/videos of her on GWM or the Internet. Duh.

Pfffff, HAH! Lowkey roasted

I still stand by my comment earlier, there really shouldn't be any unnamed photos. My best idea is to have a name requirement for each upload, and to have a separate place where admins and experts can identify people.

Jan 27, 2021 - permalink

I still stand by my comment earlier, there really shouldn't be any unnamed photos. My best idea is to have a name requirement for each upload, and to have a separate place where admins and experts can identify people.

Stand by whatever you want. In any community, everyone has a different role. Yours - or one of them anyway - is to keep sharing your "best ideas" with the Bad Idea Club.

I like Pliny's idea of helping to provide names when able. Now THAT is a qualified "best idea".

The entitlement in this thread has been quite rich, but as a fan of butt-hurt, it's been rather enjoyable. I stand by my comment.

Jan 27, 2021 - permalink
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